Pats reportedly trade for Cordarrelle Patterson

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Of all places, Barstool is claiming the Pats have traded for Cordarrelle Patterson.
 

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Makes sense. They need another ST returner without Danny and Dion
Patterson hasn't returned punts. Only has one PR in his career. Doesn't mean he can't do it, but he hasn't shown that ability.

But his resume returning kickoffs is fantastic. Five kickoffs returned for TDs over his five seasons. Career average of over 30 yards per KR. He's led the NFL in KR average in 3 of his 5 seasons. He's arguably the best kick returner in the NFL, and can also be used creatively on offense for big plays both as a receiver and a runner on gadget plays.

Assuming they aren't giving up much, a solid move. A lot of people loved Patterson as a WR coming out of college. He never flourished offensively, but his proven KR skill makes it worthwhile.
 

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Providence Journal reporter Mark Daniels -

Source confirms that the Patriots are acquiring Cordarrelle Patterson in a deal with the Oakland Raiders. This was first reported by the Big J Journalists over at @PardonMyTake.
 

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Does this impact Slater coming back with Patterson working as a gunner on special teams? This move seems to make Slater redundant.

 

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Rather throw the rare bombs to Patterson as opposed to Slater.
 

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Saw reports that Patterson has turned into a decent Gunner in Oakland. Anyone think this move might impact Slater coming back?
 

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Does this impact Slater coming back with Patterson working as a gunner on special teams? This move seems to make Slater redundant.
Gain six years in age as well.

We all love Slater, but his legs have been getting nicked up for some time now
 

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Patterson is also a wide receiver that has been dependable catching the ball which surprised me. This stat from Chris Price was interesting but I’m not certain if Patterson’s high catch rate is due to a lot of volume from catching passes out of the backfield.

 

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Insanely good KR. Will make a play or two on offense but has poor hands. Has averaged 30 yards per return for his career with 5 TDs. I like this move.
 

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Insanely good KR. Will make a play or two on offense but has poor hands. Has averaged 30 yards per return for his career with 5 TDs. I like this move.
How does the poor hands fit with the catch percentage? I'm not very familiar with him, so asking seriously.
 

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Patterson was drafted in the Patriots slot in 2013, after they traded down with Minnesota. Picked up picks which turned into Jamie Collins, Logan Ryan, Josh Boyce, and LGBT (also giving up Jeff Demps). Not a bad deal....of course, they're all gone now.
 

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Patterson and Cooks going deep would sure open up a lot of mid-range stuff, no?
 

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Patterson is... not much of a receiver. He’s an ST guy who maybe gets a few offs every snaps running jet sweeps and such.
 

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Patterson is... not much of a receiver. He’s an ST guy who maybe gets a few offs every snaps running jet sweeps and such.
He had 42 targets last season. That's not a ton, but it's more that the Dorsetts of this world got
 

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Patterson and Cooks going deep would sure open up a lot of mid-range stuff, no?
The Patriots are going to have to be creative to get good results from Patterson on offense. He is a poor deep receiver, so much so that Minnesota stopped throwing deep passes to him. He is pretty good on receiver screens and Jett sweeps, that is where the Vikings got their best production from him on the offensive side.
 

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I would imagine he’s going to be used in the return game too, taking over for Lewis in the kickoff return. He’s only ever returned one punt in the NFL, but he did in JUCO and 4 times in college (he averaged 25 yards per punt return in one season, though he had an 81 yard return, so the other three returns averaged les than 7 yards). With Dola moving on and Jules coming back from major injury Patterson might get a look at punt return. If only he could play punt/kick coverage.
 

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I would imagine he’s going to be used in the return game too, taking over for Lewis in the kickoff return. He’s only ever returned one punt in the NFL, but he did in JUCO and 4 times in college (he averaged 25 yards per punt return in one season, though he had an 81 yard return, so the other three returns averaged les than 7 yards). With Dola moving on and Jules coming back from major injury Patterson might get a look at punt return. If only he could play punt/kick coverage.
Don't worry, Cyrus the Virus has punt returns covered
 

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He had 42 targets last season. That's not a ton, but it's more that the Dorsetts of this world got
Meaningless comparison.

For his career, Patterson averages 10 yards per catch, which is pretty dismal for a WR known for speed.

Pretty sure that on offense he’s more dangerous as a rusher - for his career he actually averages more yards per carry (10.3) than yards per catch (10.0).

I could see Dorsett getting meaningful snaps on offense this year, as he was new to the scheme last year and showed some flashes. Patterson will have a much smaller role on offense.
 

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Pretty sure that on offense he’s more dangerous as a rusher - for his career he actually averages more yards per carry (10.3) than yards per catch (10.0).
Meaningless comparison

How's that 10.0 compare against other WR known for their speed? That's the comparison that would matter
 

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Meaningless comparison

How's that 10.0 compare against other WR known for their speed? That's the comparison that would matter
76 WRs had 30 catches or more last year, Patterson finished 72nd amongst them in yards per catch.

So, it's low for fast or slow receivers.

Probably doesn't matter much. Can't see Brady throwing him the ball very much this year. I'd guess it's much more likely he's cut than it is him becoming anything more than an afterthought in the offense.
 

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He's fast as hell and can catch, which is why he's a good kick returner and has a high catch percentage (but he's clearly uncomfortable catching punts, probably due to contact). His main flaw is route running. He's one of the worst in the NFL.

He actually lines up at RB occasionally so he can catch the call out of the backfield and not have to run precise routes, ala Ty Montgomery in Green Bay.
 

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Has he played with good QBs in his career? Wasn’t he hamstrung a bit by the Vikings crappy carousel and then Carr didn’t seem quite himself last year. I know Brady can’t throw a deep ball as well as, say, Garoppalo, but it might make a difference.
 

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76 WRs had 30 catches or more last year, Patterson finished 72nd amongst them in yards per catch.

So, it's low for fast or slow receivers.

Probably doesn't matter much. Can't see Brady throwing him the ball very much this year. I'd guess it's much more likely he's cut than it is him becoming anything more than an afterthought in the offense.
Thanks for doing the research. My initial response was to illustrate that he played more on offense than the other poster was suggesting.

Given that they just lost their primary kick returner, i doubt he's a cut candidate ... unless he just falls on his face in preseason. Since he apparently was a gunner as well, if Slater leaves, Patterson potentially has more value.

They never traded for him to be a front-line offensive player -- just a specialist who has some, if limited, value on offense
 

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I assume he'll replace Slater and some of Lewis' role as a receiving threat out of the backfield, in addition to being the kick returner.

He's a weapon but not really a WR because he can't run routes.
 

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Meaningless comparison

How's that 10.0 compare against other WR known for their speed? That's the comparison that would matter
Worse than every Patriot WR in 2016 and 2017, although Amendola (10.5 and 10.6) and Edelman (11.0) were close. But neither of them are known for their speed and both rely on precision route running. I don't see Patterson as fitting that role.

10.3 yards per carry on a career 400+ rushing yards does say something about his explosiveness under the right conditions - I highly doubt there are (m)any NFL WR who have done that. Only 10 yards per catch says receiving the ball is not the right condition, though.
Thanks for doing the research. My initial response was to illustrate that he played more on offense than the other poster was suggesting.
I didn't intend to say anything about his past usage on offense. I was talking about how the Patriots would use him. And that will be as a limited role guy who comes in to catch jet sweeps or lines up in the backfield for swing passes.

BTW, can he block? If so maybe he gets a little more usage than I would have thought.

Given that they just lost their primary kick returner, i doubt he's a cut candidate ... unless he just falls on his face in preseason. Since he apparently was a gunner as well, if Slater leaves, Patterson potentially has more value.

They never traded for him to be a front-line offensive player -- just a specialist who has some, if limited, value on offense
Agreed. If he can be a good 3-unit ST guy, he's a lock to stick around. If all he can do is be an elite KR, then he still would have a good chance.
 

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The blocking and the hands were two weaknesses noted on the draft report. This is a ST addition and fine on those terms. Everything else is gravy. We don’t have to best-case-scenario this to have it make sense.
 

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Yeah--he replaces our gunner on coverage and our KO returner, and he's ridiculously good at it. That's his role. The fact that once in a while you can design a play or two for him is gravy, even if it's starting him in backfield and then putting him in motion. Defense will have to at least account for him. I trust McDaniels can find something for him to do once or twice a game.
 

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For his career, Patterson averages 10 yards per catch, which is pretty dismal for a WR known for speed.

Pretty sure that on offense he’s more dangerous as a rusher - for his career he actually averages more yards per carry (10.3) than yards per catch (10.0)..
He's fast, but my understanding is that Patterson isn't used as a deep threat so much as a YAC threat. It wouldn't be surprising if that 10.0 YPC is driven by a decent amount of WR screens, shovel passes, etc.

Throughout his career, I don't think he ever developed the hands, route-running, or body control to be a good down-field receiving threat. I think it's been a while since they even tried him in that area (early in his career at Minnesota). Maybe that can/will change with the Pats? Maybe he'll have more favorable match-ups and less safety attention with Edelman and Gronk underneath, and they give him a few shots that he hits on? But I think we'd all be surprised if he added that to his game this far into his career.
 

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He seems to fit the mold of a new weapon for the ever evolving Patriot system. If you haven't seen some of his highlights from this past year, he has some get up - and interestingly very good at breaking tackles.

Check out the second, third, fourth effort at about 2:40. Might have something here, folks.

 

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He's listed at 6'-2", 220. But he looks thicker that that.
By comparison, Mitchell is listed at 6'-1", 200 while Hogan is 6'-1", 210. Patterson looks a lot bigger/thicker than either of them. Aaron Hernandez was listed at 6'-2", 250 but didn't look that much heavier than Patterson.
 

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He's listed at 6'-2", 220. But he looks thicker that that.
By comparison, Mitchell is listed at 6'-1", 200 while Hogan is 6'-1", 210. Patterson looks a lot bigger/thicker than either of them. Aaron Hernandez was listed at 6'-2", 250 but didn't look that much heavier than Patterson.
Watching tape he strikes me as a hybrid between a WR and TE. So shorter TE, but heavier WR. Long steps leads to deceptive speed, and once he gets going he can run right through some defenders and why some carries and use in the run game. This guy is going to be FUN to watch in New England.
 

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Watching tape he strikes me as a hybrid between a WR and TE. So shorter TE, but heavier WR. Long steps leads to deceptive speed, and once he gets going he can run right through some defenders and why some carries and use in the run game. This guy is going to be FUN to watch in New England.
Which could have been a pretty good description of Hernandez (minus the killings and stuff).