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Pats Mock Central

Discussion in 'Wait, Who???' started by bakahump, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. bakahump

    bakahump Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts
    Pats choose (6 Analysts)
    L. Tomlinson (OL)
    Devin Smith (WR)
    Trade with TB
    Landon Collins (S)
    Cam Erving (OL)
    Preston Smith (DL)
     
    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft
    (4 Analysts)
    Cam Erving (OL)
    L. Tomlinson (OL)
    L. Tomlinson (OL)
    Eric Rowe (CB)
     
    http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php
    Eddie Goldman (DT)
     
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2437261-2015-nfl-mock-draft-mike-taniers-round-1-picks
    (Analyst Mike Tanier)
    Jalen Collins (CB)
     
    http://www.drafttek.com/2015-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round1b.asp
    Arik Armstead (DL)
     
    http://nfldraftgeek.com/2015mocknfldraft.html
    L Tomlinson (OL)
     
     
    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/4/27/8499435/2015-nfl-mock-draft-jameis-winston-marcus-mariota
    Eddie Goldman (DT)
     
    http://mmqb.si.com/2015/04/28/peter-king-2015-nfl-mock-draft/
    (Peter King)
    Shane Ray (LB/DE)
     
    http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/mock-draft/2015/
    Sammy Coates (WR)
     
    http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/nfl-mock-draft-2015-1.9941066
    Cam Erving (OL)
     
    http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-C.php
    Byron Jones (CB)
     
    http://draftseason.com/2015-nfl-mock-draft/onbars-round-1-continued/
    Byron Jones (CB)
    http://www.nflyostmock.com/
    Eddie Goldman (DL)
     
    http://www.thesportsbank.net/nfl-mock-drafts/2015-nfl-mock-draft-4-28-15/
    Eli Harold (DL/OLB)
     
    http://newnfldraft.com/john-es-2015-nfl-mock-draft-21-32/
    Jordan Phillips (DT)
     
    http://www.nothinbutjets.com/mock-drafts.html
    Byron Jones (CB)
     
    http://withthefirstpick.com/2015/04/28/nfl-mock-draft-2015-fansided-nfl-editors-make-their-pick/33/
    Jordan Phillips (DT)
     
    http://nflspinzone.com/2015/04/27/2015-nfl-mock-draft-jameis-winston-tennessee-titan/33/
    Sammy Coates (WR)
     
    http://newnfldraft.com/tylers-2015-nfl-mock-draft-21-32/
    Nelson Agholor (WR)
     
    http://www.nfldraftdays.com/james-lee-mock-draft.html
    Jordan Phillips (DT)
     
    http://breakingfootball.com/2015-nfl-mock-draft-keet-baileys-final-edition/
    Byron Jones (CB)
     
    http://www.cornerblitz.com/2015/Mocks/Final/Default.aspx
    Nelson Agholor (WR)
     
    http://sportsmasher.com/2015/04/27/2015-nfl-mock-draft-7-rounds-by-icandraftbetter/
    Jordan Phillips
     
    http://thejetpress.com/2015/04/27/2015-nfl-mock-draft-new-york-jets-go-offensive-line-and-pass-rusher/4/
    Carl Davis (DT)
     
    http://footballfanspot.com/2015-nfl-mock-draft
    Marcus Peters (CB)
     
    Thats the first 20 or so (incl most recent)  from this site.
     
    http://www.dcprosportsreport.com/MockDraft.htm
     
     
     
  2. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Cool but http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/88197-mock-draft-catch-all/
     
  3. bakahump

    bakahump Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    DOH!
     
    Didnt see it because no new posts since March 23.
     
    Mods, Feel free to roll this in to that thread as it has some updated mocks.
     
  4. bakahump

    bakahump Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    33 Mocks listed
    DL= 12 (36%)
    DB= 8  (7 CBs, 1 S)  (24%)
    OL= 7  (21%)
    WR= 5  (15%)
    1 Trade (HA!)  (3%)
     
    DL
    Jordan Phillips (4/12) (33% of Pos) (4/33 12% Overall)
    Eddie Goldman (3/12) (25%) (9%)
    Carl Davis (1/12)  (8%) (3%)
    Eli Harold (1/12)  (8%)  (3%)
    Shane Ray (1/12)  (8%)  (3%)
    Arik Armstead (1/12)  (8%)  (3%)
    Preston Smith (1/12)  (8%)  (3%)
     
    DB
    Byron Jones (4/8) (50%)  (12%)
    Landon Collins (1/8) (12.5%) (3%)
    Eric Rowe (1/8)  (12.5%)  (3%)
    Jalen Collins (1/8)  (12.5%)  (3%)
    Marcus Peters (1/8)  (12.5%)  (3%)
     
    OL
    L. Tomlinson (4/7) (57%)  (12%)
    Cam Erving (3/7)  (43%) (9%)
     
    WR
    Sammy Coates (2/5) (40%) (6%)
    Nelson Agholor (2/5)  (40%) (6%)
    Devin Smith (1/5)  (20%) (3%)
     
  5. Super Nomario

    Super Nomario Member SoSH Member

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    I don't get the Laken Tomlinson projection. They haven't used a pick earlier than the fourth round on a pure interior lineman (Mankins was a college tackle) and Tomlinson has only played RG. They tend to like smaller, quicker guys on the interior who are versatile - can pull, or zone block - and Tomlinson's pretty much a pure power guy. He checks the intelligence and power boxes for sure; I'd just be surprised if they used a first-rounder on an OL that doesn't have scheme or position versatility.
     
  6. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    I agree Nomario.  If they were to take an OL in the 1st round my money would be on Jake Fisher from Oregon. 
     
  7. Shelterdog

    Shelterdog Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I think most draftniks are selecting him because of the intelligence/4 year starter/Pats guy/pats need interior line help and he's projected to go in the ballpark of where the Pats are picking.
     
    I personally think they take a 320 lb plus guard based on my suspicion that the team is undergoing a philosophical change of sorts and wants to have a big interior line. They clearly wanted to go from Wendell to a bigger center in Stork rather than try and upgrade elsewhere and they tried hard (with Cannon, Devey and Flemming) to play bigger guys at one guard spot replacing Mankins before settling on Wendell.
     
    EDIT: I freely admit I could just be totally wrong.
     
  8. ElcaballitoMVP

    ElcaballitoMVP Member SoSH Member

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    I just don't see the value in taking an OG like Tomlinson in round 1. If he's there in round 2? Sure. 
     
    If the Pats were to take a guard in round 1, I'd prefer an OT who can come in and start at G with the upside of developing into an eventual starter at T. Guys like Scherff, Collins, Clemmings, Flowers, Donovan Smith, Jeremiah Poutasi, etc fit the mold. There are also other guards who should be available in rounds 2-4 that could be early starters: Marpet, Cann, T. Jackson, J. Douglas, J. Miller, etc. 

    I trust the Pats to be able to find someone in the mid-late rounds for the interior line, like they did last year with Stork. 

     
     
  9. Super Nomario

    Super Nomario Member SoSH Member

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    This is exactly my train of thought: they could draft a guy in the first who ends up starting at G, but I don't think they draft a guy in the first that's only a guard. You can get guys like that later. As RO mentioned, Fisher is another option, having played guard as a freshman.
     
  10. tims4wins

    tims4wins PN23's replacement SoSH Member

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    Shockingly, Reiss (in his one and only mock draft) has WR Phillip Dorsett to the Pats at 32. I don't see a WR in round 1 unless it is Agholor, but we've all been wrong before.
     
    Either way, I don't think I am staying up until 11-11:30 tonight... or am I? Shit.
     
  11. EL Jeffe

    EL Jeffe Member SoSH Member

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    I've been thinking Dorsett the last day or so as well. The guy has legit T.Y. Hilton potential and can take the proverbial top off a defense. He helps open things up for Gronk, Chandler and Edelman, and he has the ability to flip field position with every touch. Granted, they were hoping to get that sort of player in Bethel Johnson years ago, but Dorsett seems much more advanced as a WR than Johnson ever was. 
     
  12. dcmissle

    dcmissle Deflatigator Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    This may well be a trolling mock, but as one great Gunny once said, you all are equally worthless. PFT has Shane Ray to the Pats at #32:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/30/the-final-pft-mock-draft/

    EDIT. While most of us do not expect this, ESPN has provided an answer, hopefully correct, to a question I had a couple of days ago. Per the network, for being cited for mere possession, he is "in the program". The League can random test him.
     
  13. Super Nomario

    Super Nomario Member SoSH Member

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    They also used picks on speed guys Brandon Tate and Taylor Price - but they were all later in the draft. Johnson, Tate, and Price were all bigger than Dorsett, too. I can't see a first on a small speedster like this - that would be like the least Patriotsy thing Belichick has ever done.
     
  14. ElcaballitoMVP

    ElcaballitoMVP Member SoSH Member

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    I heard Polian on ESPN talking about this the other day and he said guys like Ray can be randomly tested up to 10 times per month once they're in the program. You better be sure he can put the pipe down if you're going to use a 1st on him. 
     
    As for Dorsett, he's a binky of mine. I don't think I'd take him in the first though. He isn't a great route runner, from what I've seen/read. While his speed is a legitimate weapon, I worry that an all-speed guy like him would have a tough time picking up the offense. I'd rather wait until round 2 or 3 and see if Tyler Lockett is still on the board. 
     
  15. EL Jeffe

    EL Jeffe Member SoSH Member

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    As I recall, Tate was a 4.5 guy, maybe high 4.4s. Price and Chad Jackson ran fast combine times, but they didn't play fast. Dorsett plays fast. 
     
    That being said, I agree Dorsett wouldn't be a particularly Patriotsy thing to do, but I do know that Belichick respects that program, they could use some stretch speed at WR, and Dorsett is a legit prospect to be picked in that area. 
     
  16. dynomite

    dynomite Member SoSH Member

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    Really? Between Tyms/Dobson/Boyce I don't think they need speed at WR. I'll actually be pretty surprised if they invest early resources in that position in this draft (unless it's a potential game changing WR -- Green-Beckham, etc.).
     
  17. EL Jeffe

    EL Jeffe Member SoSH Member

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    Tyms and Boyce don't appear to be anything more than roster filler (potential healthy scratches when on the 53 man roster). (Boyce is another guy who ran a great combine time but doesn't really play that fast). I have hopes for Dobson, but 2014 was a lost year and who knows where his career is headed.
     
    I could see NE not selecting a WR at all this draft, but I could also see them taking one at #32 if they love the player. 
     
  18. j44thor

    j44thor Member SoSH Member

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    Mayock last night had Randy Gregory going to NE.  Is Mayock still considered a strong NFL insider?  I haven't kept up with the draft as much in recent years but he used to be very good.
    Seems like the type of risk/reward pick that NE would potentially make.  Though this deadspin article is interesting.
    http://deadspin.com/something-weird-is-going-on-with-randy-gregory-1701010088#
     
  19. Ed Hillel

    Ed Hillel Wants to be startin somethin SoSH Member

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    Bertrand just pulled something out of his ass, in Jimmy G plus a pick for Haden, and I have to admit, I think that's a great idea. Any chance Cleveland would consider, say, Jimmy G and a 3rd for Haden? I'd even consider giving up the first if pats got back a 2nd, maybe a 3rd.
     
  20. j44thor

    j44thor Member SoSH Member

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    Not to turn this into a trade thread but I think they could package Haden and one of their #1s plus something minor to get Mariotta.  Don't see them moving Haden for anything else esp since they don't have quality CB's otherwise.
    Does Jimmy G have any trade value?  I feel like we are in Mallett for Fitz circa 2013 territory.
     
  21. dcmissle

    dcmissle Deflatigator Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Christ, that's once every 3 days if they choose. Josh Gordon may never get back in uniform.

    I fully accept that a huge percentage of players smoke weed regularly. But not ones in the program. This is an enormous risk with a first-round pick, and there is no "lookin' the player in the eye" that will get you around it.
     
  22. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Here is my one and only mock draft.  Did not mock any trades.
     
    1. Tampa--Jameis Winston
    2. Tennessee--Marcus Mariota
    3. Jacksonville--Leonard Williams
    4. Oakland--Amari Cooper
    5. Washington--Dante Fowler
    6. NY Jets--Bud Dupree
    7. Chicago--Kevin White
    8. Atlanta--Vic Beasley
    9. NY Giants--Brandon Scherff
    10. St. Louis--Andrus Peat
    11. Minnesota--DeVante Parker
    12. Cleveland--Danny Shelton
    13. New Orleans--Trae Waynes
    14. Miami--Breshard Perriman
    15. San Fransisco--Arik Armstead
    16. Houston--Todd Gurley
    17. San Diego--Ereck Flowers
    18. KC--DJ Humpheries
    19. Cleveland--Phillip Dorsett
    20. Philly--Cameron Erving
    21. Cincinnati--Jake Fisher
    22. Pittsburgh--Byron Jones
    23. Detroit--Malcom Brown DT
    24. Arizona--Melvin Gordon
    25. Carolina--Cedric Ogbuehi
    26. Baltimore--Dorial Green-Beckham
    27. Dallas--Marcus Peters
    28. Denver--Jordan Phillips
    29. Indianapolis--Landon Collins
    30. Green Bay--Eric Kendricks
    31. Seattle--Jalen Collins
    32. New England--Shane Ray
     
    --With the Pats, I agonized over Ray vs. Nelson Agholor.  I think Ray is too enticing to pass up at 32 with their pass rush issues.
    --Randy Gregory falls out of the 1st round.
     

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