I am incredibly excited about the thought of a Butler/Gilmore CB tandem. I love the signing -- and hope that BB finds a way to hang onto/sign Butler. Watching the Pats shutdown teams on D is more fun than watching them score 40 on teams for me. Watching them shutdown teams AND score 40 on teams is so 2007.
Patriots Sign Stephon Gilmore
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That and multi-player trades don't really happen in the NFL. Hell, single player for single player trades barely happen.
WNB either. I am very particular about how my potential mates spell their name.
WEEI reported earlier that Pats are close to bringing back a DB...Duron Harmon. Bummer of a drop-off from what I thought they were about to say. I love times Ten the idea of Gilmore and Butler in the same defensive backfield. Alas.
Edit autocorrect harmons name fuck fuck fuck
Edit autocorrect harmons name fuck fuck fuck
Imagine how upset you'll get when you discover there's already a separate thread for Harmon
Yeah, it's Stephan, right?
And yeah, I am just messing around. I couldn't really give 2 craps how ppl spell or pronounce their names. Doesn't mean I can't make fun of them, right?
It's not the difference between Butler and Gilmore, it's the difference between Butler and Rowe / Jones / Coleman (assuming Ryan is signing elsewhere). You are right on point 2 that they would probably add someone if they trade Butler.
As it stood when I wrote that post, they had Butler and Gilmore on the field all the time and would only match up Rowe in the slot. Losing Butler there makes a big hole and I think the offense is going to be fine with or without Cooks (given the RBs and TE help too).
If Cooks has two big years I don't think they're re-signing him for what he'd demand, so I don't think the long-term view plays into this much.
Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 21s22 seconds ago
Patriots are giving former Bills CB Stephon Gilmore a five-year, $65 million deal that includes $40 million guaranteed, per source.
Patriots are giving former Bills CB Stephon Gilmore a five-year, $65 million deal that includes $40 million guaranteed, per source.
Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 13s13 seconds ago
Patriots are giving former Bills CB Stephon Gilmore a five-year, $65 million deal that includes $40 million guaranteed, per source.
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WOW
Patriots are giving former Bills CB Stephon Gilmore a five-year, $65 million deal that includes $40 million guaranteed, per source.
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WOW
Wow. That's a lot.
Even these numbers aren't structure yet, though. How much of that guarantee is the signing bonus vs. roster bonuses etc.
Usually BB doesn't overload both secondary and DL positions with money. If he spends more in the secondary, it's because he needs to buy the DL some time to get at the QB. When he has a solid DL he sometimes doesn't spend as much in the secondary. I hope this doesn't mean that he is worried about Hightower coming back.</chicken little>
It could mean that he is loading up or upgrading the secondary/CB D with the Falcons offense in the rear view mirror, and potentially in front of them again. I know I would, but so far Foxboro isn't ringing my phone for help. My battery was dead though, so who knows.
It could mean that he is loading up or upgrading the secondary/CB D with the Falcons offense in the rear view mirror, and potentially in front of them again. I know I would, but so far Foxboro isn't ringing my phone for help. My battery was dead though, so who knows.
That's a lot of coin. Considerably more guarantee than Bouye.
Not to say it isn't worth it. UFAs aren't cheap though
Miguel's tweet on likely structure of Gilmore.
For those not able to see it -- $8.5m cap hit this year and $11.5m next year. Virtually impossible to cut for the next two years. In 2019, it costs $12m to cut, reduced by $4 million each year thereafter.
The cap is 15 percent higher than when revis was signed and almost a 20 percent higher than 2014 when revis got 12 from us.
Gilmore is a playmaker I think 3rd in ints since he got in the league. Only 26 younger than Malcolm, they must consider him a better player.
Apologies if I'm regurgitating a thought already stated upthread and I missed it, but I'm not buying that this was to replace Butler, but rather than compliment him, if even for a single season and then let Malcolm Go. Or franchise and trade him.
I think it's entirely in the realm of possibility that BB looked at the schedule for next season and saw: Ryan, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Brees, likely Romo one way or another, Newton, Winston etc and realized all of those guys are better than anyone other than Wilson they saw in the regular season this year. So he doubled down on CB for a year.
I think it's entirely in the realm of possibility that BB looked at the schedule for next season and saw: Ryan, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Brees, likely Romo one way or another, Newton, Winston etc and realized all of those guys are better than anyone other than Wilson they saw in the regular season this year. So he doubled down on CB for a year.
Speaking of Revis, is he still in play? A revitalized reinspired Revis playing for another championship AWA future HOF consideration would be a great option on the cheap (at CB now that Ryan is gone and Butler might be going, as well as at safety).
His days of playing corner are over, and he would not play over DMC, Chung or Harmon at safety.
Plus he lacks the physicality, especially with how the Pats DBs are used in run support. Hard pass.
The Gilly LockVerified account @BumpNrunGilm0re 13m13 minutes ago
Signed with the Patriots and my wife is having my daughter on the same day. What a Blessing
Signed with the Patriots and my wife is having my daughter on the same day. What a Blessing
Scrolled down a bit for this one.The Gilly LockVerified account @BumpNrunGilm0re 13m13 minutes ago
Signed with the Patriots and my wife is having my daughter on the same day. What a Blessing
The Gilly LockVerified account @BumpNrunGilm0re Feb 5
You have to Respect Tom Brady. He is the goat. Probably the best Ever!
That's redundant Gilly. Now go get some INTs and such to get the ball back to Him. Capitalized Him purposely.
I'm not even going to open those spoilers because I know what's in there. I hated that character and don't want to see her again.
That's fantastic. What a day indeed.The Gilly LockVerified account @BumpNrunGilm0re 13m13 minutes ago
Signed with the Patriots and my wife is having my daughter on the same day. What a Blessing
You're great-grandkids college tuition is covered and your child is born on the same day??? Those must be some amazing cigars being handed out right now.
Dan GrazianoESPN Staff Writer
Stephon Gilmore's Patriots contract comes with $31 million fully guaranteed at signing - an $18m signing bonus and fully guaranteed salaries of $4.5m and $8.5m in 2017 and 2018, respectively.
Stephon Gilmore's Patriots contract comes with $31 million fully guaranteed at signing - an $18m signing bonus and fully guaranteed salaries of $4.5m and $8.5m in 2017 and 2018, respectively.
Mike Reiss ESPN Staff Writer
Newly-signed Patriots CB Stephon Gilmore's wife had a baby daughter on the day he signed his five-year, $65 million contract with the Patriots late last week. Gilmore said he was able to witness the birth, which came 45 minutes after he landed back at home from his trip to New England to sign the deal. The baby's name is Gisele. No, it's not named after Tom Brady's wife, Gisele Bundchen. Gilmore said he and his wife Gabrielle were looking for a name that started with the letter G.
Newly-signed Patriots CB Stephon Gilmore's wife had a baby daughter on the day he signed his five-year, $65 million contract with the Patriots late last week. Gilmore said he was able to witness the birth, which came 45 minutes after he landed back at home from his trip to New England to sign the deal. The baby's name is Gisele. No, it's not named after Tom Brady's wife, Gisele Bundchen. Gilmore said he and his wife Gabrielle were looking for a name that started with the letter G.
Make more sense for a WR to do that, but still a good way to make TB's wife less likely to throw you under the bus.
Good insight from a scout's perspective. Hope he's right. (And that we find a way to keep Butler.)
http://www.espn.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4801831/what-makes-pats-invest-big-in-stephon-gilmore-compared-to-malcolm-butler
http://www.espn.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4801831/what-makes-pats-invest-big-in-stephon-gilmore-compared-to-malcolm-butler
Same article I posted in Butler thread (for different reasons): http://sports.yahoo.com/news/4-reasons-why-the-patriots-have-already-won-big-in-2017-season-164132039.html