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Discussion in '2018 Winter Olympics' started by ConigliarosPotential, Jan 18, 2018.

  1. SumnerH

    SumnerH Malt Liquor Picker Dope

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    It's part of the strategy; it's also why a team with the hammer will often try for a blank end rather than scoring 1 point. Scoring 2 is worth losing the hammer, scoring 1 often isn't.

    I like it. I also basically quit watching volleyball when they stopped using sideout scoring.
     
  2. mjm3773

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    That sort of is the point. Having hammer is the biggest advantage a team has. You don't want to give it up by only scoring one point unless you have to. That's why teams will intentionally blank an end instead of taking an easy one point.
     
  3. swiftaw

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    yeah, but the team without the hammer could theoretically keep knocking the stones out of the house, leaving only the final stone to score, concede 1 and get the hammer back.
     
  4. Infield Infidel

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    Yeah thats mostly the point.

    Also, in our league, the team without the hammer in the 1st end picks the color.
     
  5. SumnerH

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    That was the same here. From the rules PDF: “In post round robin games where the team delivering the first stone in the first end has been pre-determined, the team delivering the first stone of the first end has the choice of stone handle colour”.

    EDIT: Read that wrong the first time.
     
  6. mjm3773

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    Okay. I was just talking from memory from when the US had more open playdowns to the National Championship and the single stone throw was what we did.
     
  7. Couperin47

    Couperin47 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    is there any question George is our best man ?
     
  8. SumnerH

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    That one that grazed the guard and wound up on the button for Sweden was a nice stone, and then a decent follow by the US.
     
  9. ernieshore

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    Finally in front of a TV. And ready with a Hite Korean beer to watch.
     
  10. SumnerH

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  11. Preacher

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    I prefer Cass.
     
  12. Deathofthebambino

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    What happens if a sweeper accidentally kicks or makes contact with one of the other stones? I would trip over those fuckers all the time.
     
  13. Infield Infidel

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    I'm a Maxx man. Cass always gives me the hiccups
     
  14. Deathofthebambino

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    I don't understand that last throw by Shuster. Why didn't they come in from the other side, hit their own stone into the red and knock it out? It looked like a way easier shot.
     
  15. Deathofthebambino

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    That was a disaster. I don't get it.
     
  16. Preacher

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    Shit. That was close. Ok got the hammer back.
     
  17. ernieshore

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    Hite was all they had at the Total Wine in Vancouver, Wa. No worries - I have some Dogfish IPAs for the next ends.
     
  18. Infield Infidel

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    I think if they successfully made the freeze, Sweden can't move US's shot stone, so US gets at least one. If they went from the other side, Sweden, with the hammer, can do the shot Schuster tried to do and get one.
     
  19. Deathofthebambino

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    They should have let Sweden get the one if they made that shot. They'd have the hammer back in a tie game. I think Shuster overthought that one.
     
  20. SoxFanInCali

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    Sweden had made some great doubles.
     
  21. Infield Infidel

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    With a successful freeze, they steal 1 or 2, and are up 2 or 3. It was a poor shot but not a bad idea.
     
  22. ernieshore

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    Big chance here...
     
  23. SumnerH

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    And we take advantage.
     
  24. Preacher

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    The deuce!!
     
  25. Deathofthebambino

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    Going for the triple
     
  26. Deathofthebambino

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    Sweet throw by Hamilton
     
  27. Couperin47

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    wow Hamilton immediately redeems himself
     
  28. Infield Infidel

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    Hamilton! Great support from his teammates after that miss
     
  29. ernieshore

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    Great shot from Hamilton!
     
  30. SumnerH

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    Nice double knockout by Hamilton, and the crowd was into it.
     
  31. mjm3773

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    Just a touch heavy by George.
     
  32. Preacher

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    Are there little green lights on the top of the stone on either side of the handle?
     
  33. mjm3773

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    Yes, those are the sensors to make sure each stone is released before the hog line.
     
  34. ernieshore

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    Yes - it’s an automated system to determine if they foul when they release the stone.
     
  35. Deathofthebambino

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    What if they do foul?

    And what if the sweepers kick another stone?

    I'm curious about how the penalties work in this.

    Bad throw by the Swede. The champ is cut.
     
  36. Preacher

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    He’s had some bad throws the last couple ends. He shustered that one.
     
  37. Preacher

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    USA has shot stone right now.
     
  38. teddywingman

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    I'm amazed they never bump a stone while sweeping.

    This looks good for team USA
     
  39. teddywingman

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    Darn, nice play.
     
  40. Preacher

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    Give up the 1. Get the hammer back and retain it for the even ends.
     
  41. Deathofthebambino

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    I think saying the US having the hammer in a tie game, makes this 8th end like really fucking important, would be a severe understatement.
     
  42. SoxFanInCali

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    3 straight ends of the hammer getting one would mean a gold medal for the US. Gotta execute.
     
  43. mjm3773

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    If someone doesn't release the stone before the hog line, the stone immediately gets removed from play.

    If a sweeper touches the thrown stone (with his/her broom, etc.) before the stone reaches the far hog line, it is considered "burned" and is immediately removed from play.

    If the stone is burned after the far hog line, the opposing skip has three options: 1) Leave the rocks as they ended up after the burn; 2) Place the rocks as he/she thinks they would've ended up had the rock not been burned; or 3) Remove the rock from play and put the stones back as they were as if the rock was burned before the hog line.

    Option 3 is considered against the "Spirit of Curling," which, like golf is considered an honest and gentlemanly (or ladylike) game. But earlier in the round-robin, Canadian Women's skip Rachel Homan removed a burned rock just like that. She received some flak for that and many felt Karma came back to bite her by Canada failing to make the playoffs.
     
  44. Deathofthebambino

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    I don't understand why they would waste a rock knocking that guard out of the way. That guard looks like it's so far away that it doesn't really block anything anyway.
     
  45. SumnerH

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    The sweepers take the rock out of play before it reaches the other end. If they're slow on the draw, the non-offending team returns any stones that were moved to their original positions as best they can.

    This is more complicated; if it wasn't material to the other stones, the non-offending team puts it back where it was. If it would've been hit by other stones, the non-offending team can leave things as is, put them where they best estimate they would've been if it weren't touched, or remove the stone whose course would've been altered from play entirely and put everything else back where it was prior to the violation.
     
  46. SoxFanInCali

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    Wow, great job getting that one into the house.
     
  47. ernieshore

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    You have to get 1 now at an absolute minimum, right? Though 2 seems more necessary.

    Nice sweep by Schuster there
     
  48. Infield Infidel

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    For hogline fouls, the stone is disqualified and immediately removed. Usually the sweepers just stop it.

    For touching stationary stones, the stone is placed to its original position, as long as it wasn't in/near the path of the moving stone.

    If it was in/near the path of the moving stone, the non-offending team can remove the stone, place it to its original position, or place the stones where they would have ended up if they hit.

    It's surprisingly easy to avoid stones when sweeping. I'm in my first season and I haven't kicked one while sweeping. I did heel kick one walking backwards to my position when I wasn't paying attention.
     
  49. SumnerH

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    1 is a disaster, you'd rather a blank end.
     
  50. SoxFanInCali

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    Huge spot here. US laying at least 2 with 1 rock each left.
     

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