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Discussion in '2018 Winter Olympics' started by ConigliarosPotential, Jan 18, 2018.
Even Shuster can't blow this one, right?
Here we go.
Way to go Shuster and team. That was awesome.
Never a doubt.
I didn't believe Shuster would get that nose hit until he got it...but he's certainly swung the narrative around on his career completely, hasn't he?
Shuster right now:
Pretty f’n impressive. Koe and his guys fell apart down the stretch
Over four days, he went from tragic Olympics figure to pretty much the epitome of why we all watch and love sports. Four rejects steal the trials, win four games in four days against three of the other teams who made it out of the round robin, and have the highest place ever for the USA in Olympic curling. You push his back against the wall and I guess he delivers. He is the only USA men’s curler with two medals now, right?
I expect they will lose 10-1 to Sweden now that the pressure is off and they have two days to take a break from the crazy must-win ride they’ve been on. Maybe not. Either way, the dude is now an Olympic legend. Just like that.
It's gonna take a whole lot of crow to feed us. I'll gladly eat my share.
That was thrilling! Shuster! Wow. What a story.
I thought Hamilton really stepped it up after a couple of sketchy matches. George had some very iffy shots down the stretch. Steiner is a goddamn rock.
Gold medal match!
I would like to take this opportunity to publicly apologize to Shuster. Dude has some stones.
When will this be aired? I know live, it's at like 3 AM
Was this bigger of an upset than US Finland 1980?
Gold medal match: Saturday 1:35AM ET live, and 4PM replay. Both on NBCSN
I've now watched the final three ends of USA-Canada live on Eurosport, recorded with OBS commentary, and recorded with BBC commentary. (And enjoyed it every time.) How was the NBC commentary?
Kevin Martin is very good on NBC.
Good. Very restrained though. Low key. Much more apt to talk about good shotmaking than to criticize other than to note when something is a mistake.
They dumb it down a bit. They don't really talk nuts and bolts of strategy other than to note when a shot leaves something open for an opponent. The game, or at least the end, was a bit more about shots missed than shots made, though, so maybe that's not surprising.
So, who is going to be up at 1:35AM ET to watch? I was reading this thread yesterday morning and you guys got me all jacked up so when I got home from work, I watched a replay of the match and I have to say it was pretty exciting. Needless to say, I'll be up to watch the gold medal match but it'll be on at 8:35am here. Curling and mimosas!
10:30 at night here, so I'll be watching with a beer in my hand.
First thing tomorrow morning, I'm going to wake up and watch the Curling final on the NBC sports app and avoid Twitter and message boards for the time it takes to watch.
This will be me too - and I’m very excited about my Friday night plans. Just need to find a good session ale to get through the night.
I will be watching on a little bit of a delay so I can skip commercials. I shit on Shuster the other day(not on SOSH), commenting that it wasn't the first time he had failed in the Olympics but I was confident it would be the last time he would be allowed to. Shows what I know. Hopefully tonight is the night for the full redemption!
also: I've been pregaming a bit.
Anyone else up and watching? I'm psyched, but I fear Shuster is gonna Shuster.
Booo, USA should be shooting red, and Sweden should be shooting yellow rocks.
If they lose they still get the silver right? asking seriously.
But yea I hope Shuster does not Shuster.
Bowing out of this thread now because I am not watching live. GO USA
Yes, they are guaranteed silver at worst.
When one of the Swedes throws the rock, he keeps his broom thing on the ground in his other hand and drags it along the ice. I already hate that guy.
How are the colors determined, USA as red and Sweden as Yellow would make much more sense.
I’m waiting for Mrs Shore to finish her wine and conversation at the bar we are at so I can get to a TV and watch.
I am having a massive problem with this. The reverse makes so much sense.
I'm also a few beers in...
And that was his first big mistake....
But a big bounce back
Great makeup shot at the end of the 3rd.
Somehow I fucked up the start time and woke up half an hour late. Oh well. Time to crack some prosecco.
Made up for it there. Great shot to tie it up at 2-2 after 3, when Sweden has had the hammer twice already.
Somebody needs to explain the hammer to me. Do you automatically get the hammer if you are losing or if there is no score after the 1st end? It seems like some teams get the hammer a lot more than the other teams, and I can't make heads or tails of it.
I believe you get it if a) you had it in the previous end and there was no scoring b) the other team scored in the previous end c) it's the 1st end and you were given it via coin flip.
After the first end (not sure how it's allocated in the first end) the hammer switches teams if the team with the hammer scores.
Thats why you'll sometimes see the team with the hammer blank the end (no score) rather than score 1 and give up the hammer.
Gotcha, that clears it up. Thanks.
In most league games, yes, Hammer is determined by a flip of a coin.
But in high level competitions, befor ethe game starts, each skip throws a single rock, with sweeping, and whoever gets closer to the pin gets hammer in the 1st end.
Yep, that's what Sweden did in this match. They had an easy shot for 1 in the 1st end on the last throw, and instead, he threw it out of the house, and kept the hammer in the 2nd end.
In competitive matches (including the Olympics) they draw to center rather than flip a coin, I believe. Like lagging for the break in pool
Another reason why Sweden might've blanked the first end is that you really want to hammer on the even ends so that you can have it on the final end.
At the Olympics I think the draw to center is 2 rocks for each team. The two have to be thrown with opposing spins by different players, and the team with the smallest total distance wins.
At least that's what the Internet claims.
EDIT: And they also say that once you're in the playoffs the higher-seeded team gets the hammer, no draw to center.
I thought I heard that in these rounds the higher ranked team starts with the hammer.
The US gets the steal in the 4th to go up 3-2.
Steal by a couple millimeters!
That was awesome. Never seen a measurement and we steal 1!
That makes sense. That's how hammer is determined in the playoffs for our league nights as well.
So because the US got the steal, I assume that means Sweden gets the hammer again? That will be 4 times in 5 ends that Sweden has had the hammer. I'm not sure I like the hammer rule. Seems to keep a team in it that isn't playing well, while keeping the door open for them to get a big end along the way, or maybe that's the point.
http://www.worldcurling.org/download/?dl==AFVxIkVWZ1RhxmRWR1aatWVFlVeWxGc3NlRapVUq5UV has the official rules and seems to confirm this. The 2 stones/team (different players/rotations) during round-robin looks correct early on, but it seems as though it can get more complicated in some cases.