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He's still in AA, he's probably not really ready yet, but presumably the plan is for him to take over from Beltran whenever that may be. 
 
Like when he gets hurt? Beltran is signed for another year. So they are going to need to figure out a place to fit him in even he keeps crushing it.
 

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I think if Beltran and A-Rod stay healthy and productive that we don't see him before next September.
 

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I think if Beltran and A-Rod stay healthy and productive that we don't see him before next September.
Judge could force his way into the big leagues by next summer, especially if he is a missing piece that the Yankees need to compete. Best scenario is Beltran rebounds in 2015 and Yanks can trade him before the 2016 deadline.

Reggie Jackson is spending a lot of time with Judge. Interesting mentor for the young outfielder.

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2015/05/this_yankees_prospect_is_impressing_reggie_jackson.html
 

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Yeah, it'd be a nice problem to have. Greg Bird and Teixeira are similarly lined up, Tex is also signed through next season. 
 

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Yeah, it'd be a nice problem to have. Greg Bird and Teixeira are similarly lined up, Tex is also signed through next season.
Boston's farm system is just the latest example of how you cannot rush even the most elite prospects thru the high minors.
 

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Yeah, it'd be a nice problem to have. Greg Bird and Teixeira are similarly lined up, Tex is also signed through next season. 
 
How weird is it that I'm not all that anxious for Tex's contract to be over anymore? As long as he plays great D and hits some homers, I'm pretty happy with the guy. Unexpected.
 

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They say it takes two years to regain power after wrist surgery, so I guess that's what we're seeing, although he never had a start like this as far as HRs even in his best days. Hopefully he can stay healthy. 
 

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Bryan Mitchell hammered and knocked out in the first tonight, 0.1 7 6 6 1 1, yoiks.
 
Johnny Barbato with 2.2 more scoreless innings in relief in AA, he has to be moving up the list of potential bullpen replacements. For the season now he is 17.1 9 2 2 6 19, another nice little move by Cashman (trading Shawn Kelley). 
 

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Not totally sure, he's definitely not hitting much now (.652 OPS), but he doesn't turn 20 until next month, and also of course the bar for offense for a shortstop is much lower than for an outfielder.
 
Bumping my own post to note that Mateo has started to hit more the last few days, 9 game hitting streak, BA up to .291 and OPS up to .718. 
 

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Jacob Lindgren's last four outings in AAA combined: 6 2 0 0 0 8
 

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Refsnyder finally just hit his first HR of the season, he had 14 last year at two levels. He's been smoking the ball the last few weeks. 
 

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And another throwing error, his 9th in 38 games. Most of those came early on, but still, less than ideal. 
 

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Yankees may have to choose soon between boosting the offense at the expense of defense. It's not like the big club is flawless defensively. Two more errors today.
 

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Yankees may have to choose soon between boosting the offense at the expense of defense. It's not like the big club is flawless defensively. Two more errors today.
 
You have to give context on those, one was by the pitcher and the other by Headley, both came after the game had essentially been decided at 4-0. Their defense in general has been very good after some early problems, and extra outs from bad infield play just kill a team.  
 

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Yeah, I get it. But at what point do you start using the top prospects you have drafted and developed? What are Yankee 2Bs hitting this season ... .180? If Refsnyder can improve that by 100 points, the tradeoff on throwing errors every fourth game might be worth it.
 
We all have seen young players come to the big leagues and energize a team that is lacking in a skill set that player can provide. For too long, the Yankees have not pulled the trigger. Cano and Gardner over the last 11 years. Anyone else among position players?
 

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Each case is different, who have they not promoted that they should have? Pirela was decidedly better in spring training than Refsnyder and has looked pretty overmatched on both sides of the ball so far. I'm not against promoting Ref and giving him a shot, but I don't think it's clearcut (and he had shown zero power before today, no HRs or triples in 100+ ABs). 
 
But yeah, if Drew and Pirela both keep sucking, let Ref replace Pirela and let Drew be the backup SS/2B. 
 

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Each case is different, who have they not promoted that they should have? Pirela was decidedly better in spring training than Refsnyder and has looked pretty overmatched on both sides of the ball so far. I'm not against promoting Ref and giving him a shot, but I don't think it's clearcut (and he had shown zero power before today, no HRs or triples in 100+ ABs). 
 
But yeah, if Drew and Pirela both keep sucking, let Ref replace Pirela and let Drew be the backup SS/2B.
Your last sentence seems most logical. This road trip has exposed the 2015 Yankees a bit and Cashman is probably mulling his options. The team can contend because of its pitching, power hitting and mediocre division but the lineup is unbalanced, especially at the bottom. Can you carry a pair of .200 hitters in the 8-9 slots?

Didi's anemic offense is a major problem. It's a panic move to sit him, especially for a GM who traded for the kid less than six months ago. So your plan makes sense. I believe Refsnyder rebounding from a slow start, especially in the field, shows some mental toughness. It is time to take his temperature at the big league level. Give him two weeks in the lineup. If he stumbles, send him back down. What is the harm?
 

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Well, they'd have to open up a 40 man spot, but they could easily put Domingo German on the 60 day DL. I'm not arguing really, but we're all going to miss Drew's D at 2B if it happens. 
 

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Yeah, just read that piece. Collins advocates another 10 days, maybe give Pirela steady playing time at second to see if that revives his bat. Platoon Drew and Didi at short. Sounds a bit like your thoughts, too, JA. Then, if things haven't improved, bring Refsnyder up. I'm good with that plan. Pirela deserves a chance to show what he can do. Refsnyder probably does need a bit more time to season his game, in the field and at the plate. I never liked to see a kid get rushed up in Pawtucket so the same theory holds here. But as Donny Collins writes in this piece, can the Yankees contend with this offense, as currently constructed? Doubtful.
 

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I want Didi to play every day (with the occasional day off, obviously), to me he has the most potential of any of those guys including Refsnyder. His defense has gotten very good after a sloppy start, his baseball instincts have also gotten better, and he shows occasional flashes at the plate. 
 

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I want Didi to play every day (with the occasional day off, obviously), to me he has the most potential of any of those guys including Refsnyder. His defense has gotten very good after a sloppy start, his baseball instincts have also gotten better, and he shows occasional flashes at the plate.
If you are interested in the big picture, that is the way to go. Give Didi a long leash. Has anyone tried to cut down his swing yet? He needs an intervention. But I agree with you on his defense and his athleticism. Imagine him hitting ninth and actually getting on base in front of the other two speedsters?

The ballsy move would be to demote Pirela in 10 days, put Refsnyder at second on most days, make Drew the backup at both second and short. The guy is hitting .180 in 81 games with the Yankees since last summer. Is he ready to step into a secondary role and mentor two kids in a playoff summer?
 

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Also they would need a 40 man spot for Lindgren and another for Nova when he is ready. Matt Tracy certainly seems dumpable, but other spots might not be as easy to free up without losing promising guys.
 
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=nyy
 
I guess they could also DFA Petit and hope no one grabs him. 
 
Placing Whitley on the DL would open up a spot.
 

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Severino was on the DL for a few weeks with a blister, but is back tonight pitching against Dylan Bundy and has been dominant thus far. He was perfect through 4 2/3, hit the next guy with a pitch, and then he was caught stealing. Bundy has been very good also, so they're scoreless in the 5th now.
 

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Severino was on the DL for a few weeks with a blister, but is back tonight pitching against Dylan Bundy and has been dominant thus far. He was perfect through 4 2/3, hit the next guy with a pitch, and then he was caught stealing. Bundy has been very good also, so they're scoreless in the 5th now.
I almost went to that game. Five miles away at my brother's house. Told him about Aaron Judge. Decided to go until I realized it's 55 degrees and damp. Didn't know Severino was pitching. Big mistake by two old farts.
 

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Trenton won that game 1-0 in 12 innings over the Bowie BaySox when Aaron Judge singled home .113-hitting Cito Culver, who had just drawn his second walk of the season. Severino was pulled after 5 innings and 72 pitches on a cold and damp night. Dylan Bundy went 4 innings for Bowie. Not a bad pitching matchup for AA ball.
 

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Lindgren up, Pinder down. Four lefties in the bullpen. Here is a chance for Lindgren to move up the ladder. But the problem is, he's got options to spare.
 

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Mateo with 2 more SBs (31) and an inside the park HR tonight. Dude is fast. 
 

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Refsnyder looked like a better second baseman than Pirela tonight, which isn't saying much, of course. He made four good throws and seemed in balance on all of them. Hit the ball hard once in five trips, nothing to show for it. Kyler Roller can drive the ball. Hit a long foul ball down the left field line against the lefty Owens. Ball seems to jump off his bat. Flores and Gamel both seem like fourth outfielders who lack power but can run and put the ball in play. Mason Williams is behind Heathcott and Flores but if he keeps his head on straight, he can establish himself in AAA over the next month while Ellsbury rehabs and Heathcott plays CF. It will be interesting to see if Heathcott can hit consistently at the big league level. We're talking .275 with some power and speed.
 

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The thing is that they don't mind Pirela sitting the bulk of the time, but if Refsnyder comes up, they'd prefer he play most days, so it's more about Stephen Drew than it is Pirela. 
 
Heathcott doesn't really have a roster spot if Ellsbury/Gardner/Beltran/Young/A-Rod are all healthy, I guess Young is the most vulnerable there but he is one of their only dangerous RH hitters. It would be great if he gave NY something to think about while Ellsbury is out though, especially considering he was totally out of their plans coming into spring training. 
 

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Agreed about Drew. Joe's not going to walk away from what he considers a stabilizing veteran glove on a team that plays defense so erratically.
 
Heathcott's talent is intriguing. No harm in him getting a chance to play steady for two weeks. I guess he will fall to his own level within 20 ABs. But what is that level? Can he hit for power? Early evidence is he can drive the ball when given a good pitch to hit.
 

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Eric Jagielo with his 9th HR, leading the Eastern League. He's quietly putting together a bit of a breakthrough year. 
 

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Eric Jagielo with his 9th HR, leading the Eastern League. He's quietly putting together a bit of a breakthrough year.
Cole Figueroa is the current third baseman at Scranton, a slap hitter just holding the job until Jags is promoted.
 

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Luis Severino promoted to AAA.
That was fast although it makes sense because Scranton's rotation is kind of thin. Severino must be on an innngs limit this season, whch explains why he is lifted after five innings so often.

Looking down the road, though, what happens if Tanaka and Nova both return to the rotation and remain there? And what if Severino pitches well in Scranton. I guess what I'm asking is how long a leash does CC have if this rotation gets to seven deep? If he regresses again, would they DL him, assuming the Yanks are in a pennant race?

Yanks owe CC $25M for 2016 and can buy him out with $5M in 2017.
 

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First of all, I think the $5M buyout for CC in 2017 is only if the 2017 salary doesn't vest, and unless his shoulder gets hurt before then, it's going to, so really he's on the books for two full more seasons after this one.
 
Anyway, it's all fairly fluid depending on how guys are pitching, but right now, I'd say Capuano is first to be bumped from the rotation. After that, if all of Pineda/Eovaldi/Tanaka/Nova/CC/Warren are healthy, I'd say there's still a good chance they bump Warren to the 7th inning guy. Severino isn't a realistic rotation option this year because of innings, I'm pretty sure.
 

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Yes, if they're in a playoff race, Warren has to plug the 7th inning hole that Carpenter hasn't filled. You're right about CC. Several vesting options make the buyout nigh impossible. It would be nice if he finds some sort of fourth or fifth starter competence. CC owns all his failures. He still thinks like an ace. Maybe he needs to start thinking like a guy who isn't an ace and just needs to hit his spots and eat up innings. Story for another thread, I know, but CC's mindset these days is probably part of his problem.
 
And you are right about Severino and his innings. Still, it will be interesting to watch him compete in AAA ball.
 

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Chris Martin is the guy they really need back, the bulk of the bullpen has fallen apart without him. 
 

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Yes, if they're in a playoff race, Warren has to plug the 7th inning hole that Carpenter hasn't filled. You're right about CC. Several vesting options make the buyout nigh impossible. It would be nice if he finds some sort of fourth or fifth starter competence. CC owns all his failures. He still thinks like an ace. Maybe he needs to start thinking like a guy who isn't an ace and just needs to hit his spots and eat up innings. Story for another thread, I know, but CC's mindset these days is probably part of his problem.
 
And you are right about Severino and his innings. Still, it will be interesting to watch him compete in AAA ball.
 
 
      CC might make a good 7th inning guy. A very, very, very expensive one, but still better than what they've had. (I never want to see Carpenter or Rogers again).
 

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The awesomely named Rookie Davis put up his best start in high A tonight, 6 2 0 0 0 10. He's not a Severino-level prospect, but he sits 92-94 and touches 96, he's not without potential. 
 

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Davis has good season-long numbers too, 52/9 K/BB ratio in 43.2 IP, 3.30 ERA. 
 

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Severino just so-so in AAA debut today, going 4.1 innings, 3 hits, 3 walks, 3 Ks, 2 runs. 91 pitches, 57 strikes against a solid Norfolk lineup. The next start will be more informative.

Also, Cito Culver has been on fire since his batting average cratered at .114 last week in Trenton. He is hitting .440 over his last 25 trips with 11 hits. Raised his average to .175 in the process.
 

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Dominican Summer League started today, which means that a bunch of the big bonus babies that NY signed last international period debuted today, most notably Brayan Emery:

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Mason Williams replaces Heathcott in Scranton. He was hitting around .315 in Trenton.
 
He is making the most of his chance in AAA so far, 3-3 with a walk and a SB tonight, up to .340 with a .882 OPS in 51 PAs. 
 

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He is making the most of his chance in AAA so far, 3-3 with a walk and a SB tonight, up to .340 with a .882 OPS in 51 PAs.
He has filled out some. Looks like a big leaguer. But he is still an OF with little power. Similar to Flores, who actually has a bit more pop.
 

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Jordan Montgomery is a LH SP who was a 4th round pick in 2014, he was very good in low A, so NY bumped him up to high A Tampa this week, and he is currently pitching a perfect game through 6 in his debut with them. 
 

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His perfect game was blown by a two base error in the 7th who ended up scoring, so his final line was 6.2 0 1 0 0 5, pretty nice way to debut at a new level.