They aren’t Karlsson though. He is the best defenseman in the league and a top 5-10 player overall. Those guys generally don’t move.
Edit: Kovalchuk is probably the closest.
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Edit: Kovalchuk is probably the closest.
Craig Morgan (Coyotes writer) says:
Coyotes send Tobias Rieder and backup goalie Scott Wedgwood to Kings.
Kuemper Phoenix. Supposedly Coyotes have already worked out an extension with Kuemper
Coyotes send Tobias Rieder and backup goalie Scott Wedgwood to Kings.
Kuemper Phoenix. Supposedly Coyotes have already worked out an extension with Kuemper
McKenzie wrote a lengthy article on the Karlsson situation today. He says the Ryan thing isn’t demand by Ottawa, just that they have told teams that the package for Karlsson would be somewhat discounted if they took Ryan back as well. The Sens are apparently looking for 5-7 pieces in a Karlsson trade.
https://www.tsn.ca/sens-considering-karlsson-trade-options-1.1006645
Ryan McDonagh's 10-team NO list doesn't have Toronto on it. Which means the Leafs are a clear yes if indeed Toronto decides to get serious on an offer to the Rangers... Also hear that Boston remains in the mix on the Rangers captain but price needs to drop...
No because his value isn’t high enough. You wouldn’t get what you’d want for him. In a deal for McD or Karlsson, he’s not the most valuable piece you’re giving up.
For Karlsson he’d be at most the 3rd or 4th most valuable piece the Senators get. Best to keep him unless you are sure he’s a AHL superstar.
Nash obviously but it all depends on the cost. Grabner has always intrigued me but I haven’t looked into any of the non-Nash options to have a reasonable opinion.
I have a hard time seeing Krejci waive his NMC to go to Ottawa. And I don't see how it makes sense for Ottawa to take a lesser package for Karlsson to save one year of a $7 million contract.
Krejci is 31 & signed 6-year extension September 14, 2014 for a total of $43.5 million (AAV $7.25m) so he's through the 2020-2021 season.
Ryan is 30 & signed a 7-year extension on October 2, 2014 for a total of $50.75 million (AAV $7.25m) so he's through the 2021-2022 season.
I haven't been a fan of Krejci for the same reason, very creative, but that hip is eventually going to be toast for good one has to think. Bet Ottawa would say no.
My bad. I thought Ryan had two more years than Krejci.
It does make me wonder what center depth the Bruin have if Krejci goes down. I love me some Playoff Krejci but would JFK be an option? Spooner?
Center depth seems like an issue.
They have some combination of Spooner, Backes, Czarnik and JFK for center options if there is an injury to Krejci. They can also shuffle lines around and play Donato at wing.
They don’t have a great 5th center option but their options are as good as anyone.
First Rangers-Devils trade ever. Grabner to NJ for #2 and 20 yo D Igor Rykov, playing with SKA of KHL.
Feels like Karlsson is a goner. Ottawa is involving 3rd teams to offload Ryan in the Karlsson deal, with Tampa seemingly the team in the lead to land Karlsson.
So that leaves Toronto and Boston as primary teams going for McDonagh if this happens? I’d think Leafs are more desperate to get him.
Was a Red Wing fan as a kid and never say Yzerman being this good as a GM. Geez he is quite good. Karlsson would've been nice.
Yzerman had his initial issues as GM, but he's hitting his stride for sure. He's one of the top GMs in the game now.
https://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2017/12/1/16723988/erik-karlsson-free-agency-2019-market-value-analysis-ottawa-senators
Karlsson has hinted he wants fair market value for his next deal and he's up after this season, so maybe Yzerman is able to get him for a reasonable package and wonder if he gets creative enough to re-sign him after a deep run and/or win. This makes me like Karlsson less as a target.
Karlsson has hinted he wants fair market value for his next deal and he's up after this season, so maybe Yzerman is able to get him for a reasonable package and wonder if he gets creative enough to re-sign him after a deep run and/or win. This makes me like Karlsson less as a target.
I think the jury is still out on Yzerman the GM. He went to a team that already had 3 studs in Stamkos, Hedman and Kucherov. His initial drafts of Drouin and Connolly might have gotten a lesser name canned. Vasilevskiy looks to be a home run though. I think anything less than the Cup is a failure for that team. Should they grab Karlsson and not win it all might lead to changes.
I think Stevie is top 5. He’s been there 8 years and they have 3 conference finals appearances and 1 cup appearance. They are set up to be a juggernaut going forward too. There are mistakes (Callahan extension), but the handling cap space issues and the Stamkos, Hedman and Kucherov extensions over the last few seasons have been top notch. They’ve got a bevy of prospects that have been draft and developed under his watch. Knock him for Drouin, but he handled the trade demand perfectly and eventually maximized value and got Sergachev. If he pulls of Karlsson without moving major pieces off the roster (Point, Sergachev), that would be one hell of a heist. Stevie has his work cut out for him going forward in getting Kucherov a new deal, Point a new deal and potentially an extension for Karlsson.
Dreger saying Pittsburg giving up a 1st, goalie Gustavsson, and other cap "elements" for Brassard.
Updated: Pittsburg sends defenseman Ian Cole to Ottawa as well.
And then traded somewhere else.
I think it is a good deal for Pittsburgh. Late 1st, goalie prospect that was blocked by Murray and Jarry, and a guy that they healthy scratched for a stretch this season. They needed a C.
I think it is a good deal for Pittsburgh. Late 1st, goalie prospect that was blocked by Murray and Jarry, and a guy that they healthy scratched for a stretch this season. They needed a C.
Great point about the extensions but I don't want to give him credit for the Drouin trade... The Habs effed that up.
He looks to be a better than average GM but it greatly helped having two elite goal scorers and a Norris caliber defenseman in house and a somewhat stocked farm to start. For the B's benefit I wish for him to over manage his assets and screw things up.
Yeah, going all in while they have that core. Gah. Now my dislike of them wants Tampa to make a deal, and then maybe be okay with the B's staying pat and waiting a year...
Gus is a really good prospect and will likely be better than Jarry, but it is what it is, and they have Casey DeSmith in the mix too. Gives the Pens tremendous center depth and lets Sullivan roll four lines like he wants to.
Don't like losing Cole cause it means more Matt Hunwick unless Rutherford brings in another 4/5/6 type guy. Have to trust him, though, he hasn't missed on a trade his entire time in PGH.
Don't like losing Cole cause it means more Matt Hunwick unless Rutherford brings in another 4/5/6 type guy. Have to trust him, though, he hasn't missed on a trade his entire time in PGH.
Brassard deal is apparently complicated. It involves a 3rd team as well as multiple layers of salary retention. McKenzie has VGK as the possible 3rd team.
Makes sense as they have over $30 million in cap space. They may pick up a pick or prospect in exchange for the salary retention.
League says not so fast on the trade:
Nick KypreosVerified account @RealKyper
Hearing @NHL has rejected the Brassard trade unless @penguins @Senators @GoldenKnights can restructure the trade to leagues satisfaction.
Nick KypreosVerified account @RealKyper
Hearing @NHL has rejected the Brassard trade unless @penguins @Senators @GoldenKnights can restructure the trade to leagues satisfaction.
Guess the original trade had Brassard going to Pittsburgh, then VGK to get salary retained, then back to Pitt.
I don’t see how a flip of 7th rounders between Ottawa and VGK doesn’t solve this
I don’t see how a flip of 7th rounders between Ottawa and VGK doesn’t solve this
I dunno, with every stupid thing that the Sens do this year, I have the same damn thought every time: “How in the hell did the Bruins lose to this goddamn clownshoes organization in the playoffs last year?”
Every time. I want to forget last year’s playoffs so so bad.
Full deal:
Ottawa gets:
Filip Gustavsson
Ian Cole
2018 1st round pick (PIT)
2019 3rd round pick (PIT)
Pittsburgh gets:
Derick Brassard (40% retained by VGK)
Vincent Dunn (from OTT)
Tobias Lindberg (from VGK)
2018 3rd round pick (from OTT)
Vegas gets:
Ryan Reaves
2018 4th round pick
At first glance, VGK isn’t getting a whole lot as the salary facilitator here.
Ottawa gets:
Filip Gustavsson
Ian Cole
2018 1st round pick (PIT)
2019 3rd round pick (PIT)
Pittsburgh gets:
Derick Brassard (40% retained by VGK)
Vincent Dunn (from OTT)
Tobias Lindberg (from VGK)
2018 3rd round pick (from OTT)
Vegas gets:
Ryan Reaves
2018 4th round pick
At first glance, VGK isn’t getting a whole lot as the salary facilitator here.
Hey, Ryan Reaves is worth a first round pick
To add actual substance - salary is not an object for Vegas at this point, and Brassard being up next year makes it pretty perfect for them. They give up a middling prospect for a solid 4th liner (I want to say lol, but he should help in a young room) and a 4th.
Not bad from McPhee overall
To add actual substance - salary is not an object for Vegas at this point, and Brassard being up next year makes it pretty perfect for them. They give up a middling prospect for a solid 4th liner (I want to say lol, but he should help in a young room) and a 4th.
Not bad from McPhee overall
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