NCAA Tournament Sunday Game Thread

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Excellent no-call on what appeared to be a backcourt violation. The rule changed about 20 years ago where both feet AND the ball need to cross into the frontcourt. In this case the ball remained in the backcourt so the balhandler is able to step back into the backcourt.
 

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canderson said:
WVU might match up better than anyone else against Kentucky. Fast, long and very physical. They'll still lose by double digits but should be a decent fight early.
They are fast and physical but not long. The opposite, in fact.
 

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HomeRunBaker said:
Excellent no-call on what appeared to be a backcourt violation. The rule changed about 20 years ago where both feet AND the ball need to cross into the frontcourt. In this case the ball remained in the backcourt so the balhandler is able to step back into the backcourt.
It was actually really close. The "three points" rule only applies to a dribbler, not to a player holding the ball. if you have two feet in the front court and are not dribbling, but touching the ball, front court control has been established without regard to where the ball is, even if it's behind the line. On the play in question, the player actually stopped his dribble and gathered the ball at half court. But his second hand contacted the ball, ending the dribble, after he had lifted one of his feet from the front court, though it was close. If the second foot had been in the front court when he gathered the ball, and then he stepped one foot into the backcourt, it would be a violation even if the ball had never crossed into the front court.

Also the announcers acting like the half court line makes a plane that matters for a back court violation is disappointing. Front court position is established by a dribbling player not when the ball crosses the imaginary line, but when both his feet touch the front court and when the ball touches the front court (as opposed to crossing an imaginary plane -- it's not like a TD in football, the ball needs to touch the court).
 

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The Friday Regional Semis games are hideous.
 
Thursday early should be awesome, Thursday late likely to suck (unless WVU has a magical night), and I mostly agree about Friday. NCSU-Louisville is likely to be close, as is MSU-OU, and a chance of Duke-Utah as well. But the NCSU-Louisville and MSU-OU games are both likely to be pretty ugly as well.
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
It was actually really close. The "three points" rule only applies to a dribbler, not to a player holding the ball. if you have two feet in the front court and are not dribbling, but touching the ball, front court control has been established without regard to where the ball is, even if it's behind the line. On the play in question, the player actually stopped his dribble and gathered the ball at half court. But his second hand contacted the ball, ending the dribble, after he had lifted one of his feet from the front court, though it was close. If the second foot had been in the front court when he gathered the ball, and then he stepped one foot into the backcourt, it would be a violation even if the ball had never crossed into the front court.

Also the announcers acting like the half court line makes a plane that matters for a back court violation is disappointing. Front court position is established by a dribbling player not when the ball crosses the imaginary line, but when both his feet touch the front court and when the ball touches the front court (as opposed to crossing an imaginary plane -- it's not like a TD in football, the ball needs to touch the court).
Oh yes it was extremely close what is what made it such a great call at game speed under the microscope of a tournament game. I did not hear (I tend to block out these guys) the comments where I would expect uncertainty from the play-by-play guy however the color analyst is on the set specifically for scenarios like this. Do you know who the color guy was?
 

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HomeRunBaker said:
Oh yes it was extremely close what is what made it such a great call at game speed under the microscope of a tournament game. I did not hear (I tend to block out these guys) the comments where I would expect uncertainty from the play-by-play guy however the color analyst is on the set specifically for scenarios like this. Do you know who the color guy was?
I think Mike Gminski.
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
I think Mike Gminski.
This makes sense as he played before the rule changed and as a big wasn't directly affected as a guard would be by the rule. Not an excuse but I can see it happening with a big from the pre-rule change more than someone who played as a guard under the rule change.
 

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WVU struggled against Texas mainly due to the size down low. They aren't efficient enough on offense to stay in the game, possession per possession, and the press won't be very effective if they aren't making buckets. The less points the less they can press and I don't expect trapping on missed shots to be effective against UK. They'll just run the bigs and throw it down the court. Probably going to be ugly despite the networks attempts to hype the game.
 
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Sweet 16 teams by geographic area:
 
Coal Miner's Heaven : 4
Tobacco Road/ResTri: 3
Great Lakes non-IL  : 3
The Heat is On, PacSW: 2
Western Rocky Valley: 2
Tumbleweed Nation : 2
Northeast: 0
Deeeeeep South/Gulf of Mexico: 0
 
teams by state:
 
NC/Tobacco Road: 3
Kentucky 2+
Oklahoma: 1
Kansas: 1
Wisconsin: 1
Michigan: 1
Indiana: 1
West Virginia: 1
Washington: 1
Utah: 1
Arizona: 1
California: 1
Ohio: 1-
NY, TX, IL, FL combined: 0
 

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The State of Texas encompasses over a quarter million square miles and have ZERO Sweet 16 participants. The State of North Carolina has THREE within a 30 minute drive of one another.
 
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HomeRunBaker said:
The State of Texas encompasses over a quarter million square miles and have ZERO Sweet 16 participants. The State of North Carolina has THREE within a 30 minute drive of one another.
Thanks, Roethlisberger.
 

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HomeRunBaker said:
The State of Texas encompasses over a quarter million square miles and have ZERO Sweet 16 participants. The State of North Carolina has THREE within a 30 minute drive of one another.
But Texas wins where it matters most: pretty women, tacos, and barbecue.
 

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canderson said:
But Texas wins where it matters most: pretty women, tacos, and barbecue.
 
Hahahahaha.  In Texas they call beef "barbecue".  I don't care whether you're Eastern, Lexington, Piedmont, or even Carolina Gold, every right-headed person knows that if it ain't from a pig, it ain't barbecue.
 

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canderson said:
But Texas wins where it matters most: pretty women, tacos, and barbecue.
 
Executions.  (They also lead in the subcategories too, like executions of the mentally incapacitated, innocent, etc.)
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
 
Executions.  (They also lead in the subcategories too, like executions of the mentally incapacitated, innocent, etc.)
 
For the love of God, joking about BBQ is one thing, but can we keep politics out of NCAA tourney threads?
 

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DrewDawg said:
 
For the love of God, joking about BBQ is one thing, but can we keep politics out of NCAA tourney threads?
 
Ok, sorry.  I thought it was more a matter of statistics than politics.  But, for the record, isn't the pig versus cow question likely to be more controversial?
 

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DrewDawg said:
 
For the love of God, joking about BBQ is one thing, but can we keep politics out of NCAA tourney threads?
He was talking about "execution" for Pete's sake......something none of the Texas teams did very well. I know a few Longhorn fans who would favor execution of a certain leader of theirs.