NBA Trade Deadline Game Thread
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I too enjoy his insufferable certainty.Plus reading HRB's 110% certainty on all things basketball related is entertaining.
Barnes is better than Jackson. There is no empirical proof and you are only calling it that because it supports your opinion.As this is empirical proof that DeJesus is correct in his valuation of Barnes you’re swimming against the tide here.
I could come up with "proof" James Young is better than Michael Jordan.
I don't have strong thoughts on Jackson or Barnes really, but Barnes and Jackson do grade out roughly comparable in a variety on Plus/Minus type metrics, and their box score equivalents. This obviously doesn't account for fit, but it's at least plausible to me that this is a lateral move.
I think it's a meh move for the Kings and awesome for Dallas when everything is considered. I don't see how the move will impact the Kings negatively in the mid or long term. Maybe the rest of the season.
I don't know how you can knock the Kings for taking a chance on Harrison Barnes. They've been desperate to find a big wing who can slot in minutes at the three, but also slide to the four in their smaller line-ups and handle defensive assignments against KD, PG, etc. He's not a star, but he can eat up minutes and the acquisition cost was basically nothing, as Randolph hadn't played a minute this season and Jackson is nothing more than a guy. If he works out they'll extend him at a lower number, and if not they'll have a $25MM expiring to use next deadline.
The acquisition cost was cap space; they lost their ability to be a team that took on cap space in exchange for functional assets. It was a good move for the Kings insofar as it stops them from doing something even sillier like maxing Tobias Harris in the offseason, but whether Barnes is an upgrade over Jackson or not, his contract is almost entirely dead money, and they didn't get anything back in exchange for taking it on.
I think at best they were getting a late first rounded (like Cleveland got for eating Brandon Knight's contract) and I don't think that's tangibly different than a year and a half of Harrison Barnes, especially since making the playoffs appears to be their primary goal. If there were better deals out there then yes I agree, but they've been trying to rent that cap space for assets all year and haven't found a deal that they liked.
Maybe I shouldn't tell you this but when I first read your post, I saw "Baynes," not "Barnes." You have us mesmerized.
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Rockets traded James Ennis for swap rights to a 2021 second-round pick, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium.
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Rockets traded James Ennis for swap rights to a 2021 second-round pick, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium.
I think this is the first time I've ever read a report where someone was traded and they didn't bother saying where to.Shams Charania
Rockets traded James Ennis for swap rights to a 2021 second-round pick, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium.
lolol. Going to PHI
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Rockets traded James Ennis for swap rights to a 2021 second-round pick, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium.
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Sources: Houston is trading James Ennis to Philadelphia.
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Rockets traded James Ennis for swap rights to a 2021 second-round pick, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium.
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@ShamsCharaniaSources: Houston is trading James Ennis to Philadelphia.
This has been a really awesome deadline so far. 2 hours 15 minutes until the celebration...
A player traded to a TTBNL? This is a crazy deadline.
(I see he went to the Sixers now.)
Bucks really going for it. That’s a steal. Celts might need to do something as the teams around them are getting better & it was going to be tough enough to beat them before these moves.
Fake reddit got me. A new post said we traded Jaylen, Smart for Bradley Beal and I thought I was going to pass out
I ran a BRef Play index for shots JJ has taken in the 4Q. Rough proxy for sure but the theory is that if JJ is playing crunch time minutes in close games, he'll have a shot attempt to show it.
Here's the link: http://bkref.com/tiny/33fKJ
At any rate, as of this year, in games where the margin was less than 10 points (either way), the suchg games in which JJ recorded one or more 4Q shot attempts were:
1.25 v MEM (0-3);
1.22 v TOR (0-1);
1.14 v POR (0-1; note this shot occurred at 11:38 so not really crunch time);
1.8 v PHO (0-1);
1.5 v GSW (4-6 but 3-3 from 3P land)
1.3 v DEN (0-1; shot at 9:39 remaining);
1.1 v SAC (0-2; 1 shot at 10:32 and 1 shot at 5:54 remaining)
and NO is getting four 2nd round picks
Jake Fischer @JakeLFischer 2m2 minutes ago
Two of the second-round picks New Orleans will acquire from Milwaukee are Washington's suddenly very intriguing 2020 and 2021 selections, according to a source.
Wouldn't have NOP been better off to get Thon Maker for Mirotic rather than Stanley Johnson?
Bledsoe is not a floor spacer at all. He is shooting 30% from three this year and is a career 32%. Mirotic is actually only at 36% for career (found this to be way lower than I expected)
There's still threats to make a 3 and the opposing defense will still have to cover them.
Poor Stauskas. He's been on four teams since Saturday. He's the poor man's Luke Ridnour.
Really? I thought MIL already had big spacer with Lopez.
Looking at this season's stats: Lopez is shooting .388 on 6.5 3PA/g; Mirotic shooting .368 on 7.2. Mirotic is better rebounder; Lopez is better shot blocker.
I guess MIL will mix and match but does this really move the needle?
I think in the playoffs it's big to have another big man that is a floor spacer.
That Bucks trade is a huge steal.
Nate SilverVerified account @NateSilver538 47s47 seconds ago
That Mirotic trade is a BIG deal. Bucks' chances of winning the title almost double, up to 14% from 8% pre-trade. https://53eig.ht/2DfrU4M
Nate SilverVerified account @NateSilver538 47s47 seconds ago
That Mirotic trade is a BIG deal. Bucks' chances of winning the title almost double, up to 14% from 8% pre-trade. https://53eig.ht/2DfrU4M
Nate's BIG story from a couple hours ago was that the Warriors had "become" big title favorites over the last few weeks. (And then he actually deleted the tweet, as he realized he had erroneously added OKC's 7% title shot to GSW's 61%, lolz).
You realize they can play Brook at the 5 and Mirotic at the 4, right? It's just going to be wide open lanes all day for Giannis. Milwaukee has the chance to be scary good after this deal. Eastern Conference playoffs are going to be wild.