NBA Playoffs: Round One Game Thread
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radsoxfan is spot on. Curry was doubled on virtually every possession. He is the real deal. Might be my favorite small athlete since Pedro and is clearly one of those guys you can't take your eyes off of because he is apt to do something amazing every time he touches the ball.
The Warriors shot 56% from 3 and made 29 free throws. I'd love to know how many teams that lost in regulation with those stats all season.
I love Curry and wish I could watch him some more this season, but this series loss gets Jackson out of there so it's worth it. Also, since when did Doc Rivers become unlikable? I missed that one.
That Griffin shot where he made it and got fouled was amazing. I would like to hate Blake Griffin - and a year ago I thought he was wildly overrated. But after watching him this season, I can't. He is a fucking baller. CP3 is whiny but man he is money when you need it. Hell, even Jamal Crawford has found a role and embraced it. Jordan is a fantastic rim protector too. Its hard to hate this Clipper team but I am going for OKC because I love KD and I have to root for Perk (if only for his facial expressions these days).
I will say one more thing - Draymond Green was the Warriors MVP of this series. He slowed Griffin (insofar as anyone can these days), he scored, he rebounded and he did all the little, gritty things that you need to win in the NBA. If he can improve his FTs this offseason, he will become a mid-tier NBA player and be considered an elite defender. He is absolutely my favorite non-star player in the NBA these days.
I will say one more thing - Draymond Green was the Warriors MVP of this series. He slowed Griffin (insofar as anyone can these days), he scored, he rebounded and he did all the little, gritty things that you need to win in the NBA. If he can improve his FTs this offseason, he will become a mid-tier NBA player and be considered an elite defender. He is absolutely my favorite non-star player in the NBA these days.
radsoxfan said:
I am a Celtics fan first and foremost so if that happened, I would jump for joy (my kid might go to the courts to be emancipated from me after that though). But Curry is going nowhere. They know what they have in him here in the Bay Area. He and Buster Posey are the most popular athletes here and I think Curry has the edge. He will be here for a long while.
I love Doc Rivers. He is fantastic in his presser. I would love if the Sterling thing made him available and Golden State went after him...
DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:
I argued a bit for him here last summer, and got somewhat shouted down, starting here:
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/77737-non-celtics-nba-offseason-game-thread/?p=4814097
He was huge today, obviously.
Everybody thinks they're married to a playboy bunny, most people married to rabbits. Barkley strikes again.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 27s
Mark Jackson doesn't have one GSW front office ally who'll make a case to ownership to keep him. "He's on an island," league source says.
Mark Jackson doesn't have one GSW front office ally who'll make a case to ownership to keep him. "He's on an island," league source says.
Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo 41s
Mark Jackson: "I don't get caught up in it. I have total confidence and total faith that I will be fine even if I'm a full time pastor."
Mark Jackson: "I don't get caught up in it. I have total confidence and total faith that I will be fine even if I'm a full time pastor."
Local scribes have said that Woj is wrong. But there is clearly smoke. I want them to keep Jackson - the players love him. That's good enough for me.soxhop411 said:
https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/462837358094589952"]1msoxhop411 said:
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Doc Rivers pulls Mark Jackson aside for a private conversation
"Do you mind if I sublet your apartment in Oakland?"
Indeed. But it doesn't change the fact that the players and coaches are making money for and taking money from someone they clearly don't like. I think its extremely unlikely that Doc decides to leave. But then again, I thought he might still be in Boston this time last year.soxhop411 said:
Someone on ESPN did a quick and dirty calculation (so it's probably only roughly true...) that the difference in inheritance taxes to the Sterling family if a sale occurs while he's still alive (ownership is in a family trust), as opposed to happening after he's dead, is over 250 million. They will use every tactic in the book to keep this tied up in court and when every other tactic is exhausted, their final ploy will be... Shelly will file for divorce, it's a community property state and you might recall just how long the McCourts managed to keep the sale of the Dodgers tied up in family court...
of course if you can't slow down the sale, there's always the option of speeding up the day he shuffles off this mortal coil.... :whistling:
of course if you can't slow down the sale, there's always the option of speeding up the day he shuffles off this mortal coil.... :whistling:
Remember when some Celtic fans wanted no part of DeAndre Jordan when those trade rumors were swirling last year? Wow what a beast he's developing into!!
Couperin47 said:
McCourt bottled up the Dodger sale for just over a year and that was even declaring BR. It's in the other thread.
However, I agree with you. Sterling has every incentive to use scorched earth litigation tactics.
I do remember and I'd like to think if I went back and looked I dissented from that consensus. (But not actually sure I did - it may be one of those 20/20 hindsight things.) In any case, who cares about that -- goes back to Doc Rivers being terrific: both that he saw Jordan's talent and that he played him perfectly in terms of getting him to excel in the areas he can excel and ignore those other areas. Rivers has really solidified his rep with his work with the Clippers.HomeRunBaker said:
Perkins had a rare good match-up for his talents against the Grizzlies. It'll be interesting to see if his bulk can get Jordan off his game or if Jordan will just fly around him/over him.
So, what would have happened had the Spurs hit a game winner the other night: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24550144/league-admits-six-men-were-on-court-for-spurs-on-crucial-game-6-play
Sort of disappointing that none of Atlanta, Memphis, or Golden State managed to pull off an upset, but it does lead to better match ups in round 2. OKC-LAC and Indiana-Washington are both going to be a lot of fun.
I woke up this morning thinking about the over/under for posterizations of Perk in this series. It's not going to be pretty.
DeJesus, just wanted to offer condolences and thank you for your GSW posts throughout the season. I wish there was a way we could all see the Dubs-OKC and LAC-OKC. I'm going to miss watching Curry - there aren't many players that make my wife sit down and watch (although she claims she remembers Damian Lillard as a college player - "I knew he was going to be good" - although there is no way in the world she has ever seen Weber State play).
I think it's one of those chicken/egg things where I doubt that DJ would have developed like this without Doc (maybe CP3 too, but I think mainly Doc). The physical talent has, obviously, always been there, but he has matured so much this year (Blake has too). The guy has gone from a happy-go-lucky, high flying, weak-side shock blocker to a legitimate rim protector, glass-cleaning leader on the defensive end (Blake and DeAndre are eons better as team defenders than they were a year ago). Watching a guy like that grow into his physical tools - and after last year I would have put the odds of him doing so at about 15% - is one of the most gratifying aspects of watching sports. My opinion is that it wouldn't have happened in Boston on a mediocre, mostly Rondo-less team.
The head coach spends very little time with player development so anything that DeAndre gained came from his own desire and work ethic plus that of Doc's assistants, 3 of the 4 who came with him from Boston and the 3 asst player development "coaches" who essentially are there when the player wants some extra drill work.
Players develop themselves from within and learn how to play from their teammates and opponents....very few coaches make an impact in many of these areas.
Players develop themselves from within and learn how to play from their teammates and opponents....very few coaches make an impact in many of these areas.
Both Nets and Raps gotta feel good about the first quarter.
Kidd usually goes with at least 4 bench guys to start the 2nd and that has been trouble this series. I hope he has another plan today.
Kidd usually goes with at least 4 bench guys to start the 2nd and that has been trouble this series. I hope he has another plan today.
You likely know more than me, but listening to Joachim Noah on Bill SImmons podcast, he made it sound like Thibs spent a lot of time working with the playersHomeRunBaker said:
Ultimately a player's development is on the player, but I think you are underestimating the role Doc (and his staff) had on tapping that desire and work ethic. They've built Jordan's confidence, given him greater responsibility and he's flourished. It's impossible to know, but I am deeply skeptical this develoment would have happened under Del Negro or under the first-year-professional coach iteration of Brad Stevens.
If you're going to give Rivers credit for Jordan and Griffin's maturation as players you need to also give DelNegro his due for Bledsoe's growth last year and taking Jordan from being a raw 2nd round draft pick into a starting center prior to Rivers arriving. Olynyk and Pressey didn't belong on an NBA floor in October, and look what happened with Jordan Crawford. It's players taking advantage of opportunities and figuring things out that's all.jmcc5400 said:
I'm a huge Doc guy but understand that his role has it's limitations......and many of us already saw Jordan ready to blow up this year while Griffin working on his jumper and figuring out the game was along the lines of what you'd expect him to do also.
