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Mock Draft Catch-All

Discussion in 'Wait, Who???' started by Super Nomario, Jan 27, 2014.

  1. Super Nomario

    Super Nomario Member SoSH Member

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    Here's a thread we can link to mocks:
     
    Eric Edholm 1/17: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/2014-nfl-draft-report-latest-mock-draft-lands-173115408--nfl.html
    Ra'Shede Hageman, DL, Minnesota
     
    Dane Brugler 1/20: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-DaneBrugler
    Mocks Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech to the Pats.
     
    Rob Rang 1/20: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-RobRang
    Stephon Tuitt, DL, Notre Dame
     
    WalterFootball.com 1/22: http://walterfootball.com/draft2014.php
    Amaro
    (2nd rd) Bryan Stork, C, Florida State
    (3rd) DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State
    (4th) Bene Benwikere, CB, San Jose State
     
    Waldman / Galko #PostSRBowlMock 1/26 (Twitter)
    Louis Nix III, NT, Notre Dame
     
    Zone Reads 1/26: http://zonereads.wordpress.com/2014/01/26/126-mock-draft-post-senior-bowl/
    Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State
    (2nd) Scott Crichton, DE, Oregon State
     
    Josh Norris 1/27: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46123/344/norris-mock-draft-jan-27
    Amaro to Pats
     
    Matthew Fairburn 1/27: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2014/1/27/5347670/2014-nfl-mock-draft-blake-bortles
    Amaro (trade up to 17)
     
  2. Dan to Theo to Ben

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    RO3829 must be giddy with this!  I personally like Jernigan best of these, but would be ok with RO's binky, JA. 
     
    Seems to be a consensus on either DL or TE.
     
  3. Super Nomario

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    Dane Brugler, CBS Sports 1/27: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-DaneBrugler
    1. Amaro
     
    Walter Football 1/29 update: http://walterfootball.com/draft2014.php
    1. Amaro
    2. Weston Richburg, C, Colorado State
    3. DaQuan Jones
    4. Benwikere
     
    Matt Miller, Bleacher Report 2/2: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1944924-2014-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-post-super-bowl-predictions/page/30
    1. Amaro
    2. Trevor Reilly, DE, Utah
    3. Josh Huff, WR, Oregon
    4. Jaylen Watkins, CB, Florida
    6. Chris Watt, G, Notre Dame
    6. Justin Britt, T, Missouri
    7. Preston Brown, LB, Louisville
     
    Dan Kadar, SB Nation 2/3: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2014/2/3/5371554/2014-nfl-mock-draft-blake-bortles-teddy-bridgewater
    1. Nix
    2. Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State
    3. Richard Rodgers, TE, Cal
     
    Eric Galko, Optimum Scouting 2/3: http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/2013-nfl-mock-draft/mock-draft.html
    1. Nix
     
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  5. Mugsy's Jock

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    I would be giddy with Amaro!!  But if they got Tuitt instead of Amaro, I wouldn't be disappointed either.
     
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  10. bakahump

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    Soooo.....we can pretty much guarantee that Amaro and Nix are not the picks....
     
    I just keep thinking we will be rending our hair out when both Nix and Amaro are there and we take an OL prospect thats rated 68th or something (Like Jack Mewhort or Cyril Richardson).
     
  11. dynomite

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    Doesn't seem like there's a huge distinction between the end of the 1st Round and the 2nd Round this year, especially once guys like Amaro and Nix are gone (which some people who are more knowledge about the draft than I seem to think is likely) or simply not ranked high on the Pats board.

    Wouldn't surprise me to see the Pats trade out of the 1st altogether and try to snag a few more TE/OL/DL prospects in the mid-rounds.
     
  12. Super Nomario

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  16. Super Nomario

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  18. PaulinMyrBch

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    Green eyes, instincts and understanding of blocking schemes. Means he's inexperienced and likely looks frozen when things get beyond basic. Not a high football IQ at this point. 
     
    Needs more glass in his diet may mean he's not tough enough. But I'm guessing at that.
     
  19. Super Nomario

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    Updated today
    1. trade back for a 2nd, 3rd, 5th
    2. Tuitt
    2. Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame (trade up)
    3. Scott Crichton, DE, Oregon State
    4. Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers
    4. Christian Jones, LB, Florida State
    5. Chris Watt, G, Notre Dame
    6. Tyler Gaffney, RB, Stanford
    6. Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
    6. Brock Vereen, SS, Minnesota
    6. Rob Blanchflower, TE, UMass
    7. Jay Bromley, Syracuse
     
  20. Mugsy's Jock

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    Eric Frenz, in the Globe...

    Round 1, Pick 29 Ra'Shede Hageman (DT, Minnesota)
    Round 2, Pick 62 Troy Niklas (TE, Notre Dame)
    Round 3, Pick 93 Marcus Smith (DE, Louisville)
    Round 4, Pick 126 A.J. McCarron (QB, Alabama)
    Round 6, Pick 182 Phillip Gaines (CB, Rice)
    Round 6, Pick 190 Russell Bodine (C, North Carolina)
    Round 7, Pick 221 Zach Fulton (G, Tennessee)

    Happens to be really similar to what I've been cranking out with the Draft Simulator toy at FanSpeak.com... down to Gaines and Bodine in the later rounds. I'd prefer another OL instead of McCarron in the 4th round, and another TE in there somewhere late (Gilmore in the 5th, Duncan in the 6th, or Reece in the 7th)... but this sounds reasonable to me as a way to spend the picks they've got now. [Think Loyko's dreams of accumulating picks is great, but optimistic.]

    http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/goingdeep/2014/03/patriots_mock_draft_10_rashede.html
     
  21. lambeau

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    McShay's new mock has us getting Hageman--with Nix going to 49ers and Ealy to Broncos; all based on Steelers and Packers not going D-line (Dix and Ebron).
     
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  23. Shelterdog

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    I watched Ealy play a bunch and I must have just watched his good games because there's no way that guy should be available anywhere near 29.  It's hard for me to see a pretty good pass rushing DE with size lasting that long.
     
  24. triniSox

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    Yep I'd be very surprised if Ealy drops to the 20s.
     
  25. Super Nomario

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    Erik Frenz at boston.com, 3/17:
    1. Nix
    2. Niklas
    3. Tre Mason, RB, Auburn
    4. Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State
    6. Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama
    6. Marcus Martin, C, USC
    7. Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia
     
    I'd love to get a S in there and maybe go OL earlier, but that's a pretty nice haul.
     
  26. Super Nomario

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    Steve Balestrieri, PatsFans.com, 3/17:
    1. Dee Ford, DE/OLB, Auburn
    2. Austin Sefarian-Jenkins, TE, Washington
    3. Richburg
    4. Kelcy Quarles, DT, South Carolina
    6. Connor Shaw, QB, South Carolina
    6. Colt Lyerla, TE, Oregon
    7. Keon Lyn, DB, Syracuse
     
  27. SMU_Sox

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    Wow, I hate Balestrieri's mock. Dee Ford? Really? Don't think he is a good pass rush fit with our current personnel or scheme. That and I wonder how he does anyway in the NFL given his struggle with larger linemen.  
     
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  29. bakahump

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    Agreed,
     
    Ford-Undersized DE which they dont like or an OLB which they have 2 high draft picks with promise already.
    ASJ- OK....but there seems like better value (Niklas or Fiedowicz) later
    Richburg- I like the idea and the pick....whether he is there at around 87 is another question.
    Quarles- Like.....but again suprise bordering on shock if he is here at 114
    Shaw- A short, scrambling Manziel Clone?  Really?
    Lyerla- Yea...um no.  While he has all kinds of talent. Had this been 2014 the year after another great season from Hernandez then maybe.  But as it is....I cant see it.
    Lyn- He is not from Rutgers.
     
    Wrights doesnt strike me as much better either.
     
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  32. SMU_Sox

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    +1. I think he is ready to play on day 1. We can shift old and slow to center and maybe get Cannon for RG. Definitely love it. A guard who can maul as a run blocker and who is also good as a pass blocker? Sign me up.
     
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  36. SMU_Sox

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    I keep vacillating on whether or not I like Niklas. Like Ealy, Richburg and Patchan. Not sold at all on Tripp, Davis, and Latimer. 
     
     
    I would rather see a G than Tripp. Also let's add another DT instead of Chris Davis. And what about a final TE or DE prospect and not Latimer? I like double dipping on positions. DE, TE, C, G, DT, DE/DT/TE, OT. You get 2 guys to compete for interior O-line spots, and 2-3 guys to compete for the D-line as well as adding at least one more TE. 
     
    I like parts of this draft but not the 4th through 6th round picks and, again, not sold on Niklas (but admittedly I've flip-flopped on him 2-3 times now).
     
  37. Super Nomario

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    Tripp and Davis are guys who figure to contribute on special teams. If they throw another 6th-round pick at TE or DT, that guy's most likely going to be cut. But a dude who can contribute on special teams can stick around long enough to develop.
     
    EDIT: this is also why I'm surprised I don't see the Pats linked to Deone Bucannon, a 3-time captain at SS who Nolan Nawrocki says "has an ideal mentality for special teams." He's currently pegged as a second-rounder; I could see Belichick grabbing him at 29 and giving his "he's a four-down player" speech.
     
  38. Dogman2

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    I've seen Tripp play extensively.  He is an excellent tackler, great lateral quickness and can cover out of the backfield.  He ran a 4.67 40, is 6'3" 243 and unofficially performed 24 reps in the bench press. He had over 100 tackles last season to go along with 3 INTs, 2 sacks and 3 fumble recoveries. 
     
    Sure, he played in 1A, but as noted above, he could easily stick around on special teams and develop as depth as an LB. I don't think he is worth a 4th but stranger things have happened.
     
    I like him and think he would be a solid ST and depth player.
     
  39. Super Nomario

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    WalterFootball 3/24: http://walterfootball.com/draft2014charlie_1.php
     
    1. Tuitt (over Ealy)
    2. Amaro
    3. Jared Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin
    4. McCullers
     
    Amaro and McCullers are great values there, but I'd be disappointed if they don't grab at least one OL early.
     
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    ZoneReads 3/27: http://zonereads.com/?p=1844
     
    1. Jernigan
    2. Marcus Martin
    3. Michael Sam, DE, Missouri
    4. Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State
    4. Brandon Coleman
    6. Jeremy Gallon, WR, Michigan
    6. Jeff Mathews, QB, Cornell
    7. Tyler Starr, LB, South Dakota
     
    Don't think we'll go without a TE. Also don't think Bucannon will last that long.
     
  42. Super Nomario

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    Matt Miller, B/R 4/4: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2016211-2014-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-updated-7-round-predictions/page/30
    1. Brandon Thomas, G/T, Clemson
    2. Dominique Easley, DT, Florida
    3. C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa
    4. Josh Huff, WR, Oregon
    4. Tom Savage, QB, Pittsburgh
    6. De'Anthony Thomas, RB/WR, Oregon
    6. Tyler Gaffney, RB, Stanford
    7. Larry Webster, DE, Bloomsburg
     
    I like this one - Brandon Thomas is a Pats-y pick, a versatile guy who can start right away. Easley and Fiedorowicz fill two needs, and they get talent through the rest of the draft.
     
    WalterFootball 4/3: http://walterfootball.com/draft2014.php
    1. Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
    2. Weston Richburg, C, Colorado State
    3. DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State
    4. Fiedorowicz
    4. Jordan Tripp, LB, Montana
     
    Don't see a first-round CB, and I think the second is too high for Richburg. Like the last three though.
     
    Doug Kyed 4/3: http://nesn.com/2014/04/2014-nfl-mock-draft-patriots-select-pass-rushing-defensive-tackle/
    1. Stephon Tuitt, DL, Notre Dame
     
    I think a hybrid DE/DT piece like Tuitt (or Ra'Shede Hageman) would be the ideal fit in the DL. Speak of the devil ...
     
    Jason McIntyre 4/2: http://thebiglead.com/2014/04/02/2014-nfl-mock-draft-five-weeks-to-the-draft/
    1. Hageman
     
    Doug Farrar 4/3 MMQB/SI: http://nfl.si.com/2014/04/01/2014-nfl-mock-draft-johnny-manziel-3/
    1. Eric Ebron, TE, UNC
     
    I'm not a huge Ebron fan, but his talent would be pretty tough to pass up at 29.
     
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    Would take Ebron in a heartbeat at 29. That's the first mock I've seen where he falls nearly that low.
     
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    Doug Kyed 4/8: http://nesn.com/2014/04/patriots-mock-draft-new-england-selects-quarterback-in-later-rounds/
    1. Marqise Lee, WR, USC
    2. Kelcy Quarles, DT, South Carolina
    3. Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia
    4. Kevin Pierre-Louis, LB, BC
    4. Brandon Thomas, OL, Clemson
    6. Marion Grice, RB, ASU
    6. Connor Shaw, QB, South Carolina
    7. Nikita Whitlock, FB, Wake Forest
     
    I'm not sure about Lee (who Waldman was down on) or the idea of taking a WR in the first generally, though Lee could return kicks right away. I like the Quarles, Thomas, and Grice picks. I'm not sure Lynch is much better than guys like Crockett Gilmore and Marcel Jensen who could be available later.
     
  45. SMU_Sox

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    That's possibly the worst mock I've seen. A WR? Quarles in the 2nd? Not sure what Doug is thinking. I like Grice and Thomas.
     
    Edit: nothing personal against Doug. He's a fantastic writer and his analysis is thorough and insightful. Just don't like his mock.
     
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    Lance Zierlein 4/8: http://www.thesidelineview.com/columns/draft/lance-zierleins-nfl-2014-mock-draft-2
    1. Tuitt
     
    Interesting note at the bottom:
     
  47. SeoulSoxFan

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    Love Doug in general but I agree. Marquise Lee does not go past the Jets, but even if he did just can't see Pats using a 1st rounder on a WR not named Evans (and Evans could go in top 10). 
     
    I also had Brandon Thomas with one of the 4th rounders, and may steal his pick on the Wake Forest FB. 
     
  48. E5 Yaz

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    Thomas apparently tore his ACL working out for the Saints. How that affects his positioning in the draft, who knows
     
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    Thats exactly the reason he would be available in the 4th.  Before injury he was a Late 1st/2nd round pick.
     
    Combine that with BBs penchant for "Redshirting" players....and...1+1= 2ish
     
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    Dane Brugler 4.8: CBS Sports - NFL Draft Scout Senior Analyst. I call bullshit.
     
    1) CJ Mosley
    2) Troy Niklas
     
    Link
     

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