Mike Hazen new ARZ GM, Amiel Sawdaye New ARZ senior VP and assistant GM

[soxhop411]

“@ChrisCotillo: Diamondbacks name Mike Hazen executive vice president and general manager. Hazen was Dombrowski's No. 2 in Boston.”

Nick Piecoro ‏@nickpiecoro 3m3 minutes ago
Nick Piecoro Retweeted Evan Drellich

Source confirms Red Sox exec Amiel Sawdaye will become Dbacks' senior vice president and assistant general manager.

 

[soxhop411]

“@ BNightengale: Now that Mike Hazen has left for #Dbacks, #Redsox bench coach Torey Luvullo is strong candidate to leave Boston and join him as manager”
“@BNightengale: Frank Wren now becomes leading candidate to be promoted and become #Redsox GM”

 

[Ale Xander]

Didn;t DD just say 3 days ago he didn't expect any significant coaches in baseball ops?

 

[DeadlySplitter]

This came out of nowhere, didn't it?

 

[soxhop411]

“@bradfo: Hazen to @Dbacks could mean bunch of Red Sox front office turnover, and Lovullo best chance yet to get managing job”


There is going to be a bunch of FO turnover in the coming weeks.

 

[Pinchrunner#2]

“
“@BNightengale: Frank Wren now becomes leading candidate to be promoted and become #Redsox GM”

If this is true, we are doomed.

 

[IpswichSox]

I don't know but wonder whether this would increase the likelihood of DD trading (more) prospects.

 

[the1andonly3003]

If this is true, we are doomed.

the final nail on the coffin of the Red Sox philosophy we've known since 2003

I expect JF to be fired at the first losing streak or slow April

 

[PTC]

the final nail on the coffin of the Red Sox philosophy we've known since 2003

I expect JF to be fired at the first losing streak or slow April

I have to assume DD was hired by this ownership group because they didn't particularly mind a change in philosophy. In other words....was there anyone here that didn't see this (the change in philosophy) coming the moment DD was hired?

 

[LogansDad]

Wrong thread

 

[bosockboy]

If Lovullo goes I wonder if Tek gets the call as bench coach. Lovullo would be a big loss, as he was a strong insurance policy for Farrell.

 

[soxhop411]

“@bradfo: One name to keep in mind for Red Sox GM, or @Dbacks asst. GM: pro scouting director Gus Quattlebaum”

 

[soxhop411]

If Lovullo goes I wonder if Tek gets the call as bench coach. Lovullo would be a big loss, as he was a strong insurance policy for Farrell.

Cora?

 

[soxhop411]

Alex Cora Interviewed for the SD job last year If I remember correctly... Would be an excellent addition as a bench coach (if he wants it)

 

[Van Everyman]

If Lovullo goes I wonder if Tek gets the call as bench coach. Lovullo would be a big loss, as he was a strong insurance policy for Farrell.

Not a problem. When we fire Farrell in 2018 we can hire Lovullo and give them Noe Ramirez.

 

[Plympton91]

I have to assume DD was hired by this ownership group because they didn't particularly mind a change in philosophy. In other words....was there anyone here that didn't see this (the change in philosophy) coming the moment DD was hired?

How old is John Henry? He may at any point now start following the Rasputin philosophy of winning as many Chamionships as he can in his lifetime. That would make his actuarial window about the next half decade I think.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Dude he's 67 he's not exactly in Illitch territory yet.

 

[AlNipper49]

the final nail on the coffin of the Red Sox philosophy we've known since 2003

I expect JF to be fired at the first losing streak or slow April

It's not like Hazen had a blank check. Let's face it, it's DD's team

 

[DLew On Roids]

Alex Cora Interviewed for the SD job last year If I remember correctly... Would be an excellent addition as a bench coach (if he wants it)

I for one would look forward to continuing the theme of Alex Cora as the Heddy Lamarr of baseball.

 

[soxhop411]

gammons weighs in
Peter Gammons ‏@pgammo 6m6 minutes agoMassachusetts, USA
If you know the Red Sox, how that talent came from like so many with the Cubs, the only logical replacement for Hazen is Amiel Sawdaye, who


Peter Gammons ‏@pgammo 4m4 minutes agoMassachusetts, USA
@pgammo is responsible for so mcny of the players and is showing up on many search lists. Wrong hire? The core of the organization leaves

 

[Green Monster]

Now Hazen can trade Goldschmidt to the Red Sox ....lol

 

[Manramsclan]

This brain drain has been happening for a long time. I don't like it, but I try not to get too worked up over it because clearly the Red Sox front office is a desired location for top talent.

That said, it seems like ownership is behind the curve in realizing that investing in these young execs is taking advantage of a market inefficiency. That money spent in keeping turnover low in the front office results in much more money on the field if those guys are doing their jobs.

 

[soxhop411]

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

That said, it seems like ownership is behind the curve in realizing that investing in these young execs is taking advantage of a market inefficiency. That money spent in keeping turnover low in the front office results in much more money on the field if those guys are doing their jobs.

Huh? Are you under the impression guys leave because they're not getting paid enough? Or have something to back that up?

They leave because they get more responsibility and a better title to continue to move up the chain. Haden will actually get to make decisions now. And someone that was below him will follow to take the next step on the ladder so that hopefully someday he gets to make the decisions. Make no mistake, though the Arizona gig carries the same title it is a promotion. 'GM' doesn't mean what it used to in a lot of organizations. The financial raise is just a bonus.

 

[pjr]

Pete Abraham ‏@PeteAbe 3h3 hours ago


Would not expect this to happen. But shouldn't the Red Sox at least consider promoting Farrell to GM and naming Lovullo manager?

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Pete Abraham ‏@PeteAbe 3h3 hours ago


Would not expect this to happen. But shouldn't the Red Sox at least consider promoting Farrell to GM and naming Lovullo manager?

I think if DD thought that highly of Lovullo he'd have caved to ownership pressure and canned Farrell.

 

[NDame616]

Didn;t DD just say 3 days ago he didn't expect any significant coaches in baseball ops?

What do you expect him to say in the exit press conference? "We are not firing any of our staff but we do expect our GM to be hired by someone else and move a lot of staff with him"?

 

[pjr]

I think if DD thought that highly of Lovullo he'd have caved to ownership pressure and canned Farrell.

I agree with you on that. Also I think Farrell would be an asset in the front office but
not as GM.

 

[HriniakPosterChild]

Dude he's 67 he's not exactly in Illitch territory yet.

But he does look like he's already been embalmed for years now.

 

[soxfan121]

Geez, I bet Ben Cherington feels like an idiot. Hazen parlayed one year as the subordinate to Dombrowski and a significant track record with the Red Sox player development machine into a Baseball Ops decision maker job and Cherington quit rather than work under Dombrowski, and parlayed his track record with the Red Sox into being Mark Shapiro's lackey in Toronto.

Good for Hazen. Quattlebaum spoke at the Seminar two years ago (did he this past year? I cannot recall) and seemed a very sharp fellow. I'm sure the next man up will be very qualified for the job.

 

[Van Everyman]

I think if DD thought that highly of Lovullo he'd have caved to ownership pressure and canned Farrell.

Wait, when did ownership want to can Farrell?

 

[soxhop411]

what will happen to SOSH if we hear a rumor that the sox are considering Rubén Amaro Jr for either the bench coach or GM position?

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

what will happen to SOSH if we hear a rumor that the sox are considering Rubén Amaro Jr for either the bench coach or GM position?

Laughter, mostly. He'd probably be fine as a bench coach. And if he's the GM, it just means that he's the guy who gets Dombrowski his coffee and muffin.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Laughter, mostly. He'd probably be fine as a bench coach. And if he's the GM, it just means that he's the guy who gets Dombrowski his coffee and muffin.

And he'll screw up the muffin

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

And he'll screw up the muffin

Lemon poppy seed, Ruben? What the fuck am I supposed to do with that?

 

[E5 Yaz]

Lemon poppy seed, Ruben? What the fuck am I supposed to do with that?

Imagine the day DD tells him to get him a reuben sandwich

 

[soxfan121]

And he'll screw up the muffin

no, he'll pay too much for a sampler pack of muffins, then ask for too much when trying to resell for the other muffins that DD rejects.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

gammons weighs in
Peter Gammons ‏@pgammo 6m6 minutes agoMassachusetts, USA
If you know the Red Sox, how that talent came from like so many with the Cubs, the only logical replacement for Hazen is Amiel Sawdaye, who


Peter Gammons ‏@pgammo 4m4 minutes agoMassachusetts, USA
@pgammo is responsible for so mcny of the players and is showing up on many search lists. Wrong hire? The core of the organization leaves

This really makes too much sense to happen. I hope it's an up and comer and not Wren.

In regards to Amaro he's actually not a bad choice for a contending veteran team. BUT on a team rebuilding or with young talent I would be scared. That's why the Sox wouldn't be a good fit. Sawdaye is the best choice and it's not particularly close either. Sometimes the most logical choice should be the choice.

 

[IpswichSox]

On Wren, Bradford wrote last night that Wren lived in Atlanta this past year and occasionally commuted to Boston, but Bradford was unclear on Wren's appetite to move to Boston full time.

 

[pjr]

From Peter Abraham's twitter account,


Dombrowski said he believes Lovullo is ready to manage and they org. would not stand in his way.

Hazen, Dombrowski said, is “limited” in terms of how many staffers he could take to Ariz. “Would not let an abundance of personnel leave"

Dombrowski said he would like to find a GM “as quickly as possible.” Will start interviews with internal candidates soon.

 

[Bergs]

As someone who really wanted to see Lovullo manage the 2017 Boston Red Sox and was already disappointed in the off-season thus far, this feels like a pretty big loss.

 

[JimD]

From Peter Abraham's twitter account,


Dombrowski said he believes Lovullo is ready to manage and they org. would not stand in his way.

Hazen, Dombrowski said, is “limited” in terms of how many staffers he could take to Ariz. “Would not let an abundance of personnel leave"

Dombrowski said he would like to find a GM “as quickly as possible.” Will start interviews with internal candidates soon.

This makes sense. If Hazen wants to promote a few guys from his Red Sox staff, that should be fine, but bringing people over for a lateral move should be subject to Boston approval (assuming the employees in question are under contract).

 

[HriniakPosterChild]

IIRC, most guys at that level are under annual contracts.

 

[reggiecleveland]

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/frank-wren-is-reportedly-leading-candidate-to-become-new-red-sox-gm/

On Sunday, we brought you news that Red Sox GM Mike Hazen had accepted the same position with the Diamondbacks. Hazen's new team has myriad questions to answer -- such as who'll they hire as manager, and whether they'll tear down and rebuild. Hazen's old team has a big one, too -- who will succeed him as GM?

We might already have the answer, because Frank Wren is the "leading candidate" for the position, per Bob Nightengale of USA Today:

 

[pjr]

FWIW, one name that is getting a lot of buzz in the industry as fit for Red Sox GM is international scouting director Eddie Romero

 

[PTC]

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/frank-wren-is-reportedly-leading-candidate-to-become-new-red-sox-gm/

I'm assuming the long time SoSH aren't too keen on Wren? I guess my question is: Will Wren have any actual power? Because if really doesn't, then I assume it really doesn't matter.

I have a decent sense of how the trades and FA moves turned out, but can someone with more draft knowledge than me (which is probably ALL of you), remind me how well his drafts with Atlanta worked out.

Freddie Freeman? Simmons? Kimbrel? Were his drafts held in high regard at the time?

Thanks

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

I think the question of power is key here. The job title may be General Manager but in reality it's an Assistant GM what with the title inflation we've seen the past few years. I think they go with one of the up and coming types like Romero or Sawdaye. That keeps the continuity in place. Elevating Wren from consilgliari to AGM seems like too much of a break. Plus - if they don't hire from the ranks they're going to lose some of these guys if prospects for advancement become limited.

 

[Mueller's Twin Grannies]

There has been some speculation that Wren may not want to go back to the "daily grind" of bring GM st this point in his career, notably in Ian Browne's article on MLB.com.

It also mentions, with the same qualifier, Allard Baird as being a candidate. As well, Assistant GM Brian O'Halloran, director of player development Ben Crockett, and the aforementioned Sawdaye, Romero, and Quattlebaum as other top internal candidates.

 

[Toe Nash]

It's clear that Dombrowski has had most if not all the power since he came on, but I'd rather have him surrounded by smart people rather than Frank effin Wren even if he makes all the final decisions.

 

[JimD]

I want to see one of the young guys get promoted, because a. it will lead to some additional promotions down the chain that could help keep key contributors from defecting to Arizona, and b. I can't think of a more discouraging message to send to the younger members of the organization than to elevate a retread like Wren or Baird instead of promoting one of them.