Boston had said at the time that the guy they wanted #1 was likely to be there at three, so it seemed pretty obvious that Tatum was their guy from the start. I think everything else was them just trying to decide what the best fallback plan was if whomever they traded with came to their senses.
Nope, he would have traded down for a nice haul and then drafted Donovan Mitchell.
Punchado has nothing to with this.
Which post or poster are you getting all this from?
Look, I don't want to get in an internet argument with you over this so you can have the last word but if you search "Fultz" "competitiveness", the first page has three references to questions about Fultz's competitiveness - Draft Express, SB Nation, and an article from USA Today. That is some evidence.
If it's accurate and he'll take them, it opens the floor up somewhat for his drives. It would be a substantial development imo.
One of the biggest talking points was how his team went 9-22 and Fultz lack of competitiveness was a reason why. There were lots of negatives on the scouting report. There is on all scouting reports, even Tatum's. Sometimes they turn out to be wrong, other times right.
Obviously, those are two pretty big ifs. Don't forget, around this time last year, we were seeing video of his teammate Ben Simmons hitting 9 or 10 threes in a row.
That depends, the lower/slower factor worries me because that shot might not fly with a defender on him, hence my remark about it being more useful in a spot shooting situation (i.e. Simmons finds him open and kicks the ball out). Unless he makes that shot considerably quicker a defender can lay off him enough to reduce the angles to the rim and still be in a position to contest the shot.
It must be almost basketball season if LondonSox's feelings are getting hurt because people are saying mean things about the Sixers and he's promising not to react or to quit posting here altogether.
So?
Cool, I thread banned you to help you out, so now maybe we can stick to talking about Fultz and stop worrying about what you find acceptable.
It's amazing he takes it so personally. Fultz is worth discussion and his season last year was cataclysmic. Making matters worse, The Celtics stole Tatum and foisted Fultz on the Sixers.
Totally agreed, I think it went somewhat overlooked because no one knew what the hell was actually going on. But yes, it's fascinating and would be worthy of much discussion even without any Boston connection.
You’re not alone. I’ve been saying it for about a year.
I don't think its fair to blame a kid for an "injury". But the 76ers mgmt. so far have gotten off easy. In part their escape was due to to the emergence of Simmons and Embiid, as Fultz sat, and the 76ers became a team on the come. IMO this story may reignite if Fultz continues to struggle, Tatum continues his growth, the 76ers lag the Celts and as the '19 draft pick traded for Fultz starts to come more closely into focus.
Yeah, nothing is a given. "Best shape of his life" is a running joke on this site, and for good reason. Same goes for fixed shot form.
It is rarely the teams who leak this information but rather the players representation. Whenever you hear a leak all you have to do is ask yourself which side benefits most from the information being spread publicly and that is almost always your source. In this case the Sixers traded up for #1 and made it known they would draft Fultz.....this is standard protocol for a team having the first pick and targeting a specific player. The team doesn't benefit from keeping this a secret as they are on the clock and they CAN benefit by pumping up their fan base to purchase season tickets and merchandise. As far as the Lakers go, I don't recall them EVER saying they would take Ball and in fact on several occasions Magic dismissed it as a done deal until Philly traded up even though everyone paying attention knew Magic wasn't going to pass on a 1 with vision reminiscent of himself who was also from LA.
Addressing each bolded point:
Could be a change in the national appetite for revelatory stories about players who may have mental health issues.
I would add that the "not mentally strong" and not "competitive" aspects, if they actually exist, may have absolutely nothing to do with the yips problem. And there is nothing we have seen to indicate Fultz has a "mental illness."
Jon Lester's inability to throw to 1b is a mental problem though. It's not a physical one. Whether it's a weakness or not is not for me to decide.
Right. I was commenting on any notion that Fultz is mentally weak/ill and that's where the yips originate, and pointing out that we know a player who seems pretty tough who also has the yips. Fultz might not care about winning or being the best - I have no idea about that - but the yips can happen to anyone. For Lester it's a discrete mental problem that is independent of his other abundant mental and character strengths such as his proven competitive fire, and it's not a symptom of some other mental illness. It is a "weakness" in his game for sure. But having watched him over most of a decade none of us would characterize him as a "mentally weak" person or player. A problem throwing to first, fortunately, is less of a problem than throwing to home was to Steve Blass (who, like Lester, was a World Series hero) and Rick Ankiel and maybe Daniel Bard and less of a problem than yips when shooting a jumper would be to a shooting guard.
Several questions come to mind based on this:
No one is saying what you are describing.
I agree that the criticism is a bit over the top, but I think it is understandable to some degree.
It's important to remember the timeline for all of this. Ainge was cold on Fultz from the minute we won the draft lottery in refusing to even mention him by name despite being pressed on it. Fultz spent two days in Boston on June 5 & 6. After leaving Boston, the Fultz camp scheduled the Sixers workout which wouldn't occur if Ainge lets them know he's his guy......but the big tell here is that this all occurred prior to Ainge having Tatum in for HIS workout and meetings in Boston which didn't take place until the morning of June 12th. Later that afternoon the trade with the Sixers was announced so clearly there was dialogue in place and it seems that the Tatum visit was simply a formality as the Celtics brass already knew him well through their Dukie contacts, most notably owner co-owner Steve Pagliuca who remains very close to Coach K and that program. Between Ainge's words on lottery night, already having a deal lined up prior to Tatum's workout and the positions they play on the floor, I don't find any reason to doubt that Danny knew from the get go that he wasn't drafting Markelle Fultz.
