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Machado to Padres for 10 years, 300M, opt-out halfway through

Discussion in 'MLB Discussion' started by DeadlySplitter, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. DeadlySplitter

    DeadlySplitter Member SoSH Member

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  2. nvalvo

    nvalvo Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    10/$300.
     
  3. Remagellan

    Remagellan Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Good riddance. Happy to have him stay in the NL where his opportunities to injure our players will be few and far between.
     
  4. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    For once, the Yankees did not swoop in.
     
  5. DeadlySplitter

    DeadlySplitter Member SoSH Member

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    August 23-25, 2019 - Boston @ San Diego

    but yes, after that the next time would be 2022, barring a trade.
     
  6. John Marzano Olympic Hero

    John Marzano Olympic Hero has fancy plans, and pants to match Dope

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    With him and Tatis, the Padres might be interesting this year. Good move for them.
     
  7. Philip Jeff Frye

    Philip Jeff Frye Member SoSH Member

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    After seeing his performance in the World Series, I'm disappointed the Yankees didn't sign him. It would have been like the second coming of Afraud.
     
  8. RedOctober3829

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    Tim Brown of Yahoo says there's at least 1 opt out in the contract. Brown adds the opt out is after the 5th year.
     
  9. phrenile

    phrenile Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    "Biggest" contract until Harper's in the next week or so.
     
  10. pokey_reese

    pokey_reese Member SoSH Member

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    Have you seen their rotation? I'm not sure they can win that many 8-7 games...
     
  11. SemperFidelisSox

    SemperFidelisSox suzyn SoSH Member

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    “I don’t run hard”

    “Here’s $300 million”

    Let that be a lesson to all you Little Leaguers out there.
     
  12. moondog80

    moondog80 heart is two sizes two small SoSH Member

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    Padres could have a pretty good lineup, but the rotation is shaky. It would make sense for them to now go after guys like Gio and Clay on one year deals, if not Kuechel.
     
  13. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    As far away from Boston as possible - great news.

    Maybe they can be a 4th place team with him.
     
  14. BigSoxFan

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    I’m jealous. $300M to play baseball in San Diego. Lots of offensive talent on that team now. Need to acquire some pitching.
     
  15. nvalvo

    nvalvo Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    The 2021 Padres are pretty promising.

     
  16. Gash Prex

    Gash Prex Member SoSH Member

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    So ...still striking?
     
  17. crow216

    crow216 Dragon Wangler SoSH Member

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    After all that talk of the offseason, I'm surprised to see such a big contract.
     
  18. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    YES!!! ... It worked!
     
  19. Red(s)HawksFan

    Red(s)HawksFan Member SoSH Member

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    I'm surprised not because of the off-season talk, but that it is so late in the off-season. Usually the big money, record-setting contracts are early on and the result of urgency to get the guy signed before the other team does. Wonder who it was the Padres were bidding against?
     
  20. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Or a World Series
     
  21. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    It only takes one
     
  22. BaseballJones

    BaseballJones goalpost mover SoSH Member

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    Happy that he's in the NL, and on the west coast, far away from Boston. Unless something dramatic happens, he'll play the next five years in relative obscurity. Works for me.
     
  23. nvalvo

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  24. Doc Zero

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    BAH GAWD THAT'S BRIAN CASHMAN'S MUSIC
     
  25. Cumberland Blues

    Cumberland Blues Dope Dope

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    Yeah, their farm is loaded. It's like he just signed with the 2013 Royals.
     
  26. MikeM

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    Ehh, a year ago people were talking about that signing figure as the absolute starting point more so then the top end potential that needed to come out of a team on the low end in terms of committed payroll going forward.

    He'll still probably end up a Yankee in 3 years once the Padres inevitably go into fire sale mode again.
     
  27. chawson

    chawson Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter

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    Good for him for holding out for the money. I have a hard time seeing a Preller plan work – especially one that's got an 8-year deal for Eric Hosmer as a key cog — but there's gotta be a few that stick from that stable of Gore, Paddack, Morejon, Espinoza, Quantrill, Lamet, Lucchesi, Nix, Avila, Kennedy, Allen, and Strahm.
     
  28. bosockboy

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    Pretty shocking the Pads spending 300 million period, but especially after urinating away 144 million on Hosmer.
     
  29. nvalvo

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    In three years their window is opening, not closing. TINSTAAPP and all that, but they have 9 prospects in the current MLB top 100, including five starting pitchers.

    Nothing like 7 more years of a 1B/DH with a 99 OPS+! I predict he'll be traded to KC with $70m in like a year.
     
  30. rymflaherty

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    Former Marlins President David Samson is a regular on the LeBatard show local hour - there are a lot of reasons to dislike the guy, but he is rather intelligent and speaks with no filter at this point - Anyways, he’s been saying for a while that the fact Harper and Machado were I signed was entirely due to their agents, and each agent promising their client that they’d land the richest contract ever. That it’s basically just been a big game of chicken...I’ve been viewing it through that lens because it made sense to me, so it’s not too surprising for that reason.
    It will be interesting to see how fast the Harper domino falls now.
     
  31. RedOctober3829

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    Now go sign 2 of Dallas Keuchel, Gio Gonzalez, and Clay Buchholz and all of a sudden the rotation isn't as bad.
     
  32. MikeM

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    It's the Padres. And Preller.

    They ultimately can't help but screw things up, and Hosmer is already looking like a dead money weight they won't realistically be able to trade away for any relief when they do. So color me skeptical that type of scheduled window opening ever actually presents itself.
     
  33. bankshot1

    bankshot1 Member SoSH Member

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    Machado doggin' it in Petco for 10 years.

    it will feel like 70.
     
  34. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    They have Wil Myers on the books through 2022 also but nothing really besides that. This always seemed like the best fit for player and team since it started being rumored a month or so ago, plenty of cash to spend for SD and low expectations and minimal spotlight for Machado.
     
  35. bosockboy

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    Disregard.
     
  36. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    Huh?
     
  37. MikeM

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    That sounds a lot better in surface theory and when you don't factor in team's willingness to spend money track record.

    Having $73m of their limited payroll flexibility tied up in the trio of Machado/Hosmer/Myers isn't looking like a great team fit in my book.
     
  38. jon abbey

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    Right, but it's the Hosmer/Myers part of that that's the problem, probably not the Machado part.

    Also not sure how much it matters but the AAV numbers on Hosmer/Myers are much lower than the actual salary ones, $31M AAV combined from 2020-2022 and $43M combined in actual salary.

     
  39. moondog80

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    Hosmer and Myers are negative value right now, but both are young enough where they can still be productive players.

    Good deal for SD. Machado is plenty young enough to still be elite in a year or two when the young Padres mature; until then, spend the max on the remains FA willing to sign one year deals.
     
  40. MikeM

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    The Machado deal becomes a problem because there is still risk involved in that, and now you are taking that risk on top of those 2 overpays which in all likelihood will already be weighing their limited flexibility down. It would of been one thing for the Padres to sign Machado here had they not already just flushed a huge chunk of money down the toilet on Hosmer last winter. As it stands now this essentially just amounts to a luxury piece that makes about as much sense for them (imo) as It would for me to go out and buy a ferrari to park in my apartment complex driveway.

    Small market teams signing big ticket free agents to mega deal contracts, with the supporting mindset that they'll eventually go on to help supplement a roster you expect to see built years down the road and on the back of winning the prospect lottery, is just as big a loser bet as these mega deal contracts themselves.
     
  41. Comfortably Lomb

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    Eeeeh, Machado is the better player by a decent margin. Are the Phillies still this stupid?
     
  42. sodenj5

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    Rosenthal reporting Machado had a higher AAV offer from Chi Sox.

    Have to wonder if he has an opt out clause after 5 years why he wouldn’t just take the deal offering a higher AAV.

    Wonder if Chicago wasn’t offering an opt out.
     
  43. DeadlySplitter

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    reading the tea leaves, the White Sox seem shellshocked the Padres swooped in.
     
  44. uncannymanny

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    AAV, not necessarily total value.
     
  45. moondog80

    moondog80 heart is two sizes two small SoSH Member

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    What if you had good reason to believe your were moving from your apartment complex to a much nicer house in a year or two, and the ferrari was a very unique car that would not be available if you waited until you were actually in the much nicer house?
     
  46. MakeMineMoxie

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    I'm sure he'll set a fine example for the young SD players.
     
  47. Andrew

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    Who had the Padres giving out the biggest contract 2 years in a row? (For now anyway)
     
  48. Twalk

    Twalk Member SoSH Member

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    Manny Machado just signed the largest sports deal in US history. And Donald Trump is president. USA. Where character counts.
     
  49. E5 Yaz

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    Can we keep politics out of threads like these? I know it's too much to ask, but FFS let's give it a try
     
  50. E5 Yaz

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    And agreed to on the same date
     

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