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Lonzo and his brother Chuck Cunningham and his other brother Chuck Cunningham

Discussion in 'Mark Blount's Port Cellar: Celtics Forum' started by E5 Yaz, Mar 13, 2017.

  1. Valek123

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    ESPN just ran 2-3 minutes during sportscenter on 2B and 3B's first practice and Papa B spoke for a bit. It's absolutely insane that this continues to draw national attention, I significantly underestimated his genius in getting his two younger sons constant attention. Amazing that one no talent and one potential talent kid get 2-3 minutes on ESPN, the top HS talent in this country must be nudging their fathers to become egomaniacs.
     
  2. Sportsbstn

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    People are desperate for flash, bravado and the me me me attention. All you have to do is look at reality TV and twitter and the more outlandish and stupid you are, the better. The kids are very likely a bust from the standpoint of making it to the NBA, but lavar is a show, basically for the bored or easily amused. These 2 kids should thank their father daily because they would never achieve what he is giving them.
     
  3. JakeRae

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    What is he giving them? A spotlight on their failings? A loss of the opportunity to gain a college degree? Maybe he turns this into a reality TV show or something and they make some money off of it, but right now, it's hard to see how they are gaining from the attention.
     
  4. HomeRunBaker

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    Yeah, without Dad they would never relinquish their 4 years of NCAA eligibility before playing a single game......or play for a B-Division Lithuanian Baltic League team for a coach who not only doesn't speak English but told a former American player, Billy Baron, that he wouldn't play him because he couldn't communicate with him due to the language barrier.

    Forfeiting a free college education, sending them to Lithuania, and setting them up to fail on the court......and they should thank him???
     
  5. maufman

    maufman Anderson Cooper x Mr. Rogers Staff Member Dope Gold Supporter

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    I’ll agree with others and say this is crazy.

    LiAngelo got a full ride to UCLA based on his brothers’ talent. He should’ve ridden that wave where it took him. When he got busted in China, his Dad should’ve told him to eat a big slice of humble pie and work his way back into Alford’s good graces. Now, what the fuck is he going to do when his 15 minutes are up? He’s not going to be supporting a family in 30 years off his share of the fucking Big Baller Brand.

    LaMelo might actually have had enough talent to make the NBA. This circus can’t be helping that cause — he needs to be back in California, playing high school and AAU ball. Maybe down the line, Europe would’ve been a better option than college for him, but his Dad had no business closing off the latter option for his son so early, and he’s obviously not going to get the coaching he needs in Lithuania.
     
  6. shaggydog2000

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    But they have their own Big Baller branded invitational series in Lithuania and get to film their reality show!

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...tas-schedule-big-baller-brand-challenge-games

    The games will be broadcast! On Facebook!

    Also, I just need to add that the picture in the article with LaVar in front of the team looks exactly like one of those posed "Kim Jong Il looking at things" pictures. The Great Leader is clearly giving them invaluable instruction, which the 3 English speaking team members will appreciate greatly.
     
  7. DrewDawg

    DrewDawg Dorito Dink SoSH Member

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    Sigh

     
  8. Sportsbstn

    Sportsbstn Member SoSH Member

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    He will make them many millions. The kids drive Ferraris and lamborghinis. They don’t seem to care one iota about education. This isn’t 20 years ago, the balls are the Kardashians and will make a killing off the sheep. These kids will make more money hanging on to daddy than they ever would in their lifetime.
     
  9. soxhop411

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  10. Omar's Wacky Neighbor

    Omar's Wacky Neighbor Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    A look at the new BBB ref uniforms:

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  11. NickEsasky

    NickEsasky Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em SoSH Member

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    He looks like he should be competing against Pete Weber Jr in the PBA.
     
  12. DrewDawg

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    Jello scored 10, the shoplifter scored 19.

    Jello also apparently didn't really wanna play too much defense.
     
  13. Dick Pole Upside

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    Highlights looked like a glorified high school game. Really a little pathetic. This is sad.
     
  14. Marciano490

    Marciano490 Urological Expert SoSH Member

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    I maybe missed something. Did BBB get a deal to outfit the league refs as part of the deal with the kids going over?
     
  15. djbayko

    djbayko Member SoSH Member

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    There's a BBB logo on the court as well. I missed the news as well, but now I suspect Lavar essentially bought his way into the league.
     
  16. lars10

    lars10 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Are they still officially in a league? Isn’t this more of an invitational tourney (or just friendlies) or something as per the article shaggy posted?
     
  17. HomeRunBaker

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    Either myself or someone else posted the link last week. The Lithuanian team plays some games in the top division but the majority in the Baltic League, essentially the B-Division. Part of the deal in bringing them to town was the team would drop out of the Baltic League and instead create "The Big Baller Challenge" which sets up games against even lower level teams than the Second tier Baltic League.

    In other words, the Lithuanian second tier league was too competitive to get the Ball Bros. regular minutes so they bring in the Washington Generals......that's the Big Baller way!
     
  18. allstonite

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    Jello is the shoplifter. Lamelo is the high schooler
     
  19. shaggydog2000

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    And facebook money is paying for all the promotion, ref shirts, etc. I doubt the Balls are making much money from it. Maybe enough to pay for them living in a luxury spa there, but maybe not. I bet in a few years we're going to find out Lavar squandered all of Lonzo's first NBA contract and more on trying to look rich and run bad businesses.
     
  20. DrewDawg

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    Ugh.
     
  21. HomeRunBaker

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    Right. It is crucial to differentiate the Bros if you want to follow along with the Big Baller Series. Jello is the worst of the bunch, a complete scrub. LaMelo is the young scorer in the family. It's so weird that all 3 have completely different games. Wonder how Lonzo feels about how his brothers are being handled.
     
  22. tims4wins

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  24. DrewDawg

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    Yeah, money quote:

    So, against teenagers, they can hold their own, which makes sense. Against adults? Well, perhaps that's why they should be playing in high school and college right now. Crazy.

    Where will dad take them next? Chinese League?
     
  25. JCizzle

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    Starbury would end them
     
  26. Kliq

    Kliq Member SoSH Member

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    Jimmer vs Ball would be interesting.
     
  27. reggiecleveland

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    I am sad for these kids. This reminds me of a conversation I had Friday. A student of mine, a European ESL student is frustrated with her progress through the school system here in Canada. There are two problems, 1. it takes time and some failing to get educated in a second language, 2. She was not a strong student in her home country or first language. Her parents solution is so move to Korea because she is getting a bad deal in Canada. Amazing what people will do to avoid the harsh, even when it isn't that harsh, reality.

    I mean Lavar the kids are average D1 players, enjoy it.
     
  28. Cellar-Door

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    This scout Fraschilla tweeted has a good insight.

    Basically as expected they aren't good enough/ready for the real Lithuanian league. They should have been playing in the Baltic league, where they would be bench guys maybe if that, but the team and Lavar saw an opportunity for quick cash so they pulled their B team out of the Baltic league and started playing the "BBB challenge" which is basically a series of Friendlies against youth teams.

    The most savagely true bit:



    LaMelo has real potential, but he isn't going to develop if he isn't playing for a team at his level or in the NCAA
     
  29. DrewDawg

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    Did they delete the tweets? Not seeing them. What was the savage one?
     
  30. sezwho

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    FWIW, as a relative of an ESL instructor, not all language barriers are equal - try learning history in Chinese. Still, if you can't make it in the Canadian system it doesn't bode well.

    As to the basketball question, are the Lavar kids really average D1 players? Thats not the sense I'm getting.
     
  31. Jim Ed Rice in HOF

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    Something along the lines of the younger one should get himself into a development program that will help him, the older one should enjoy the soup.
     
  32. HomeRunBaker

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    LaMelo projects to being in this "average D1 player" range if he builds his body properly (which based on his dietary reports isn't going so well) but the older one who was pulled from UCLA, LiAngelo, probably isn't even that. He had little chance of seeing any time at UCLA this season as a freshman.

    It's always easy raising peoples kids from the outside but Lonzo was always the family meal ticket. The other two had an opportunity to earn a free college education while growing to eventually play a role on some D-1 team. It's painful to watch a father destroy their athletic eligibility which would have afforded them this chance.
     
  33. DrewDawg

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    Middle kid probably could get minutes at a mid-major school (think CUSA-type) if he wanted to work a bit.

    Eventually one of these kids is going to break from daddy and then this gets interesting.
     
  34. sezwho

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    Thanks, thats about where I was coming down. As someone who is interested in the European development model (or at least the German one I'm somewhat more familiar with) where you go to school to get an education and play with a club team to learn your sport, I wonder whether getting them into a structured club development environment would be the right move. The current Lithuaniam arrangement doesn't seem long term, they clearly need the development, and aren't going to ride the "Ball" name anywhere in American college ball.

    Obviously its easier in Europe where they fund higher education so you can play out your hoop dreams and choose school if it doesn't pan out, but it might be nice for the Ball's to have age appropriate coaching and not worry about biology class.
     
  35. reggiecleveland

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    An average d1 one guys does not get to play at UCLA, maybe ever, but for sure not as a freshman. The Bruins took middle kid to get the older one. They are pretty happy I expect, that the bargain ended so quickly. The younger kid could start at a place like Rutgers by junior year. My point is that of all the thousands of kids and parents slogging through the AAU circuit, an average D1 career would be sweet.
     
  36. Cellar-Door

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    yeah as noted above it was something like:
    "The youngest should go to a real youth team where he can develop and he has a chance, the older should enjoy the soup".
     
  37. wnyghost

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    People keep referencing a free ride at UCLA. There is still SOME college work needed to graduate with a degree from a decent program.

    They have accepted that their older brother is their ticket to fame. What makes anyone think they are going to put any of the hard work on the court or class in?
     
  38. HomeRunBaker

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    What the heck are you even talking about? People are referencing a free 4-year college education that comes with an athletic scholarship. Nobody was criticizing the UCLA academic program in any way.....at least I wasn't, if I missed another comment my apologies.
     
  39. sezwho

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    I think the question was whether they would work enough to get that value.

    Wny I don’t think you can conclude much about what they ‘accept’ other than they are taking direction from father whose personality is strong enough to go toe to toe with Steven A on national television and sort out a deal for them to play abroad
     
  40. doc

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    https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/1/17/16899186/lakers-lonzo-ball-luke-walton-drama

    Pretty funny read
     
  41. SumnerH

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    http://www.businessinsider.com/big-baller-negative-reviews-better-business-bureau-2018-1

    Consumers aren't happy with Big Baller Brand. The Better Business Bureau has awarded them an F, in a BBB on BBB spat.
     
  42. joe dokes

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  43. InstaFace

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    I didn't click on it to see more, but ESPN on its site had a link to go view the Ball brothers playing some team starting with a V. Did they sign some sort of broadcast deal with LaVar Ball? What a time to be alive.
     
  44. mt8thsw9th

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  45. DrewDawg

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  46. DrewDawg

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    And when Ball decided to pull Jello from school.

    One and done? LOL

    https://sports.yahoo.com/watch-moment-lavar-ball-decided-160949774.html
     
  47. Philip Jeff Frye

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    Well, it turned out to be none and done, so he wasn’t that far off.
     
  48. wade boggs chicken dinner

    wade boggs chicken dinner Member SoSH Member

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    One year of college and then off to the shoe factory . . . .

    Not looking for to seeing 'Gelo on some reality show in 20 years because he's dead broke and Lonzo told him to get a job.
     
  49. DrewDawg

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    No one posting the highlights of their game today?

    With dad on the sidelines, the high school one went for 43, the shoplifter for 37 and 10.
     
  50. Reverend

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    That this has been allowed to continue without intervention is the best evidence to date that I have that the Green Lantern Corps truly does not exist.
     

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