Longhorn Football 2015: When do we get our horns back?

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I think we need to pump the brakes on the doom and gloom a tad. There are many things working against the Horns, most importantly two factors:

1) Mack Brown left the cupboard as bare as one can possibly leave it four years removed from a National Championship caliber season. Strong started blindfolded and with both hands tied behind his back. This team was not good even before he took over and their record against ranked opponents in Mack's final years highlights that perfectly. They were able to beat up on the likes of Kansas and New Mexico State, which helped to paper over the fact that the program was in steep decline the moment Colt left Austin.

2) Because of that, last year's team was filled with seniors who were checked out and didn't give a shit about what Strong had to say. The 357 players that were dismissed from the team are all the evidence you need of that. Now, the team is loaded with underclassmen who are going to make mistakes. Usually, you have your fair share of upperclassmen that help bring younger players along but Texas doesn't have that luxury. All over the field, on both sides of the ball, you see freshmen getting their first taste of big time college athletics by getting thrown into the deep end. There are bound to be some growing pains.

It's fair to question Strong for his in-game decision making and for some of his personnel choices but I feel like we should give the team some time to grow up before we throw the baby out with the bath water. The team is raw as hell but it's pretty obvious that there is some serious talent there. That tells me that Strong is recruiting well and he should be given the chance to at least see his first recruiting class come to fruition. They may not challenge for a playoff next year but even St Urban took a few years to get there. Granted, he took over a team that was heavily sanctioned bit with Mack having checked out the last two years of his tenure, the situations might as well have been the same.

I'm as disappointed by the start of the season as anyone but I've been seeing progress the last two games (and some regression too, to be fair). In a rebuilding season, isn't progress a good thing, regardless of results? I know we're all spoiled and expect to compete every year but I'm willing to accept that this is a lost season, with the condition that they improve throughout the year and win 8-9 games next year.

Edit: Damn you guys for making me be Mr Sunshine and Rainbows. This is a weird role for me.
 

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I don't have any issues with the amount of young talent on the roster and on the field. Clearly there is a lot of it. And they should get better with more experience.
 
But the coaching seems to suck. They're not getting better from week to week. The in-game management is awful. The team doesn't make any adjustments at halftime. Example: once Perkins left, the offensive line collapsed. Wickline can't find one guy to be an adequate backup against an average defensive line? That just doesn't compute. Heard made more negative plays than positive and took us out of field goal range with a colossal error. Just falling down at the line of scrimmage there probably would have sealed the game (assuming Rose made the field goal). That's on the coaches.
 
We all want Strong to succeed. I want Charlie Strong to be the most successful coach in Texas history. I really like his message and his overall approach. But I'm just not seeing results. Meyer at tOSU, Harbaugh at Michigan, McElwain at Florida - they're all getting results. Now. Today.
 
I don't know. Just very frustrated right now. We all invest a lot into the team's success and all I see is regression. I know there's a lot of talent on the field, but it's a mess. And that's the coaches' job: put the talent together from top to bottom and make it work as a team. This staff just isn't doing it.
 

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Kremlin Watcher said:
- 106th in passing offense
- 75th (yay!) in rushing offense
- 111th in total offense
- 78th in scoring offense
 
Match those against:
 
- 106th in passing yards allowed
- 104th in rushing defense
- 114th in total defense
- 104th in scoring defense
 
 
While these numbers look bad, there's a couple catches. Texas hasn't played an FCS team while most other teams have, and Texas has played high tempo teams which skew total defensive numbers up. I would not be surprised if at the end of the season Texas has the toughest schedule in the nation. no FCS team and 11 P5 teams. Notre Dame, Cal, and Okie are all 4-0, and the latter two games could have gone either way. probably little consolation, but close games with a young team are usually a good harbinger for the next season.
 
here are the per play rankings vs FBS teams only
 
Offense
yds per pass: 23nd (passer rating is 60th)
yds per run: 57th
yds per play: 41st
 
Defense
yds per pass: 97th
yds per run: 61st
yds per play: 73rd
 
What these number look like to me is a middle of the road but inefficient passing team that's had some big plays (only 4 games, a few big plays can really slide the avg. up) and a low completion % (51.9%), and a really bad pass defense. How young is the secondary? That's usually the worst place to have young guys on D.
 
edit S&P has them 56th, one spot ahead of Okla st.
 

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I think we could all use a shade of rose-colored glasses:
 
USA Today: Glitches mask the truth about Texas: Longhorns are getting better
 
 
 
You may not see it today, not after absorbing a second consecutive gut punch against Oklahoma State in a game that should have ended no worse than overtime, but the signs are there of a program slowly turning the page from the Mack Brown era.
 
 
 
Texas played with energy, employed creativity — using former starting quarterbackTyrone Swoopes effectively as a Tim Tebow-type changeup on short yardage situations — and had freshmen in on big plays all over the field.

It wasn’t a perfect or clean performance, but it was a step forward for a program that has been listless since Strong arrived. There are going to be more tough days ahead for the Longhorns, but for the first time, you can start to see the makings of a program.
 

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Death spiral time.
 
If we get to the Kansas game 2-6 or 1-7, how many people show up for that pillow fight?
 
40,000? 30,000?
 
Charlie Strong won't make it to next season if the stadium is empty in November and December.
 

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Fire Charlie String tonight. A key freshman tweeting and facetiming at halftime is the lowest of the motherfucking low. Kick Boyd off the team, fire Strong. It won't maje the season worse, they're at he's finishing 2-10 anyway.
 

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Yeah. That's completely unacceptable. Nuke the whole fucking thing from orbit.
 

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Says it all. The Red River Shootout will be a bloodbath too. I fear Baylor sets all types of records as Briles will do everything to run up the score. Patterson showed mercy, Briles will not

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This is the 7th time in 18 games under Charlie Strong Texas has lost by 3 touchdowns or more.
 

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Where it rains. No, seriously.
The Rangers Twitter handle tweeted "Fire Charlie.# bye" while TCU was leading Charlie Strong's Longhorns 50-0. The tweet has been deleted. The Rangers apologized in a statement that read in part: "The tweet was posted by a member of the team's social media department who was neither working for the Rangers nor was at Globe Life Park today. Effective immediately, that individual is no longer employed by the Rangers."
 
 

Per ESPN.
 

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What record does Strong need to make it to the offseason? I think at least 4-8, which I don't see them getting.
 
At least this [edit: today's loss] was numbing from the beginning.
 

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If you want to consider losing the previous two games in nut punch fashion "numbing", more power to you. Today was numbing, though. That's for damn sure.

Gonna be awesome facing my dirt burglar friends next week.
 

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What record does Strong need to make it to the offseason? I think at least 4-8, which I don't see them getting.
 
At least this was numbing from the beginning.
4 wins requires 3 more wins. No remotely winnable ganes on the schedule are Iowa State and Kansas. They aren't good enough to beat both IMO.
 

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At least I have a wedding to attend next Saturday, so I'll have an excuse to miss the second half of the dirt burglars ramming the ball down our throats.
 

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They went from caring so much about a loss as to be distraught to infighting in the span of a week? Awesome.

Is it April yet?
 

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Bosoxen said:
They went from caring so much about a loss as to be distraught to infighting in the span of a week? Awesome.
Is it April yet?
Im kinda looking forward to see what Shaka can do. He has to be better than Strong, right?
 

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Readable article from Grantland.
 
Main point is that Charlie is trying to do too much, too fast, and on his own.
He isn't talkng to HS coaches?!

No wonder they're staring at a 2016 recruiting class ranking around #50. Holy fuck, is he trying to sabotage the program entirely? Alienating Texas HS coaches is a sure-fire way of doing that quickly.
 

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Texas running back Chris Warren’s mother indicated she will force her son to transfer if things don’t work out in Austin, according to a report.
 
In an interview with Realdawg.com, the Washington Huskies’ 247sports recruiting website, K’Tara Lopez said she’s still in a “wait-and-see stage” with her son.
 
Christopher will not play for a coach that does not place academics, the development of a young man’s foundation (character) and enforcement of proper conduct on and off the field at a very high level,” Lopez said, according to the website. “We are not timid about the transfer process like others are.”
 
http://www.hookem.com/2015/10/06/report-texas-rb-chris-warrens-mom-could-force-transfer/
 
So she'll force him to transfer to Washington? The same Washington who employs Chris Petersen? The same Petersen who may or may not have warned Baylor that Sam Ukwuachu was a known woman beater (and who, unsurprisingly, became a convicted rapist)?
 
Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining, lady. Just tell it like it is and say you're unhappy about his lack of playing time on this shitty team.
 
Christ, this team just seems to be a shit magnet this season.
 

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@LonghornNetwork: Bevo XIV will not be attending this weekend's OU game due to a life-threatening condition. He has been Texas' mascot since 2004.

Yeah, fuck this season in the ear.
 

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Eh, we get a new Uga every couple years. 2004-2015 is a good run for any animal mascot.

T&P for Bevo XIV.
 

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Normally, I'd be right there with you. But this Bevo oversaw a National Championship. This one's going to be hard to let go.
 

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For pork chops, you might get a flank steak. Make it ribs and you can have some tenderloins.
 
Mmmmmmmm, piggy ribs.
 

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God dammit, all us Sooner and Cowboy fans have to offer is horsemeat.   And in the case of the Sooners, horseshit.
 
Sooners can also sell you dirt. For really cheap, too. They have a method of still maintaining high profit margins.
 

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canderson said:
He isn't talkng to HS coaches?!

No wonder they're staring at a 2016 recruiting class ranking around #50. Holy fuck, is he trying to sabotage the program entirely? Alienating Texas HS coaches is a sure-fire way of doing that quickly.
 
I wonder how much that has to do with not having Clint Hurtt around. He was 2011 Recruiter of the Year, and basically turned Louisville into Florida North, something like 25% of the roster was from Florida. Strong wasn't that different at Louisville but Hurtt dealt with the HS coaches. Then he got a two-year show cause in 2013 in the Nevin Shapiro case in Miami, where he worked before he went to Louisville. Strong kept him on the staff for that season, but didn't take him to Texas (hiring someone on a show cause is doable but isn't easy). Hurtt is with the Chicago Bears now, but his show cause expires this month, I wonder, if Strong makes it through this year, if he brings him back. 
 

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We knew they have talented guys, just really, really young and raw especially on D. I don't think they win this if they had a softer OOC schedule. There's still growing up to do, no doubt, but if the D continues to improve, it'll be fun to watch.

Still an outside shot of getting to six wins and bowling, I think. Need to take care of business against ISU an KU. Then two of four against the field. The December game against Baylor should be fun.

In terms of shock value this reminds me of the win against Nebraka more than a few years ago (2011?)
 

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So, this happened:
 
https://twitter.com/UT_CoachNorvell/status/653871602111680512/photo/1
 

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Let's hope Bevo XV starts a new era in Longhorns football much the same way his predecessor did. All the more reason to hope that Heard really does become Baby Vince.
 

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Bosoxen said:
Let's hope Bevo XV starts a new era in Longhorns football much the same way his predecessor did. All the more reason to hope that Heard really does become Baby Vince.
Not as quick, better arm. Will be interesting to watch unfold.
 

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Happy trails, Bevo.
 
canderson said:
RIP, big guy. You saw a national title and a final win over Oklahkka. You lived right.
 
Not sure if you spelled it that way on purpose, or if it's one of your patented phone typos, but I imagine that would be pronounced O-kla-ca-ca?
 

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I know for y'all, it's a matter of laughing at "aggy" but I am taking the time to laugh at Adidas, whose "special" uniforms have been one calamity after another.
 

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Why can't it be both? One side for suggesting it and the other for accepting it. As the article stated, it's pretty stupid to pin your hopes on a single game, particularly against an opponent that is a program pointed in the wrong direction. It's yet another example of aggy getting too big for its britches. As for Adidas, they're to Nike what aggy is to the rest of the big boy football world.
 
This whole endeavor is slathered in FAIL and both parties have a ton of egg on their faces.