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Liverpool 2018-19: Alisson, I Know Lovren is Killing You

Discussion in 'Breakfast with Gazza (with Sachmoneious Bullcrap)' started by SoxFanInCali, May 28, 2018.

  1. pedro1918

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    Just to make it SoSH official, Gomez has a broken leg.

    https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/328824-joe-gomez-injury-latest-liverpool
     
  2. PedroSpecialK

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    Well fuck. I guess a break is better than a bad sprain.
     
  3. PedroSpecialK

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    Double fuck - Matip out for 6 weeks with a broken collarbone, and Trent had a scan on his foot today and is likely out against United.



    Fabinho, Milner, and/or Wijnaldum likely to play RB and/or CB over the course of the upcoming 5 matches in 19 days
     
  4. SocrManiac

    SocrManiac Member SoSH Member

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    Fucking hell.
     
  5. SoxFanInCali

    SoxFanInCali has the rich, deep voice of a god and the penis of Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    And VVD is out of the first leg of the CL round of 16 because of his yellow card yesterday.
     
  6. CPT Neuron

    CPT Neuron Got Pitching? SoSH Member

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    Robo has done some time at central defense in the past and if memory serves correctly, plays in a back 3 with Scotland....another formation and tactics tweak? Good Lord, I hope not....but the back 4 is currently in poor health and options aren't exactly glowing with potential right now....
     
  7. swiftaw

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    Robbo usually plays Left Wing Back for Scotland, with their other good left back Tierney playing left center back.
     
  8. swiftaw

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    They also have Clyne.

    I think it'll be Robbo, VVD, Lovren, Milner against United on Sunday
     
  9. SoxFanInCali

    SoxFanInCali has the rich, deep voice of a god and the penis of Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    If things stay as they are, here's the teams Liverpool can draw:

    Dortmund
    Barca
    Porto
    Bayern
    Real
    Juve

    Needless to say, Porto is the dream draw. But against anyone with a makeshift back line is going to be scary.
     
  10. CPT Neuron

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    Good news is that with breaks, healing time is 6 weeks, so both Matip and more importantly Gomez should be back by February....match fitness may be an issue, but they should be back barring rehab issues
     
  11. Clears Cleaver

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    In order of preference: Porto, Real (F them), Dortmund, Bayern, Juve, then Barca.
     
  12. pedro1918

    pedro1918 Member SoSH Member

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    #262 pedro1918, Dec 17, 2018
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  13. cjdmadcow

    cjdmadcow Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    So we've now played every other team in the league (19) and Alisson has conceded 7 goals - the same number he conceded in two games against us in the CL semi for Roma last season.
     
  14. SoxFanInCali

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    51 points halfway through the season.

    In the 2011-12 season, Liverpool had 52 points total.
     
  15. Clears Cleaver

    Clears Cleaver Lil' Bill SoSH Member

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  16. koufax32

    koufax32 He'll cry if he wants to... SoSH Member

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  17. SocrManiac

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    Seeing fans in Puma shirts would be, uh, not welcome.
     
  18. BCsMightyJoeYoung

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    I always wondered about this. I guess soccer players are generally not large people. So a large size would be the general population equivalent medium or small? Good luck with x-large.

    Also, a huge portion of kit sales are in Asia - where, once again the population is considerably smaller than North America.
     
  19. teddykgb

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    What do you guys need money for? You’ll always have the Coutinho money to spend
     
  20. PedroSpecialK

    PedroSpecialK Comes at you like a tornado of hair and the NHL sa Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    4 points clear with both City fixtures out of the way and Spurs @ Anfield yet to come. If you’d asked anyone in this thread on 8/1 I think we’d all have taken that.

    Hoping for a full reserve 11 v Wolves on Monday, FA Cup is tertiary right now given the club’s league position and CL KO tie. Ideally:

    Mignolet, Clyne, Lovren, Hoever, Moreno, Henderson, Jones, Keïta, Lallana, Origi, Sturridge

    I’d add Solanke and Camacho but it seems they’re headed out on loan
     
  21. 67YAZ

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    I was hoping this thread title would be a silly joke and not, you know, an unfortunate prediction.
     
  22. Clears Cleaver

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    my goodness Lovren was bad today

    but hard to fault anyone else. it was great game and the team played well.
     
  23. JayMags71

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    I’ve just asked Dejan Lovren when we’re going to see the evidence that he’s one of the best defenders in the world. He said NOT NOW JAMES.
     
  24. SocrManiac

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    Boring James Milner hasn't been as funny as Real James Milner for awhile, but that was a good one.

    Mané needs a little break. I appreciate how much he's developed, but he needs to put the two seemingly exclusive parts of his game together. He needs to finish consistently and play within the system. He's rarely done it. Yesterday, the one on one with Ederson officially earned him the name Sadio Benteke in our house.

    There's no argument that this year's success is built around the stingiest defense we've seen in Anfield in memory. It's absolutely predicated on Van Dijk and Alisson, but #4 needs a decent pairing. Lovren ain't it. The injuries sustained right before the holidays were literally worst case, but the team came through silly season four points up. It's hard to feel negative about that. Regroup, rest, get healthy, and get ready for the run-in. Liverpool win it this year.
     
  25. BCsMightyJoeYoung

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    I think Lovren is perfectly fine in the #3/4 CB role. I think Klopp views him as his #3. Was just really unfortunate Gomez got hurt.

    It took a wonder strike from Agüero and the margin of about two inches to beat them. The margin for the Stones almost own goal was I think 11 mm. The Sane deflected goal was a margin of a couple of inches. (For you metric system deprived folks)

    And they didn’t even play particularly well to boot.

    They lost a game .. move on.
     
  26. SocrManiac

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    Clyne out to Bournmouth on loan? What the fuck?

     
  27. PedroSpecialK

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    Doesn't make sense to me. I get that they have players in midfield who can cover at RB, but Clyne acquitted himself well against United and should be in consideration for a rotation spot. With Gomez and Matip still out, this is prime time to get Clyne some reps and weather a softer part of the schedule before UCL starts back up.

    Maddock's take is that Klopp believes Hoever is close to first-team readiness, but it seems nuts to me to deplete the squad depth on that belief without Hoever having played any first-team matches

     
  28. BCsMightyJoeYoung

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    Yeah .. this is .. odd. I guess this means Moreno is (gulp) staying?
     
  29. 67YAZ

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    That's actually a lot of cover at RB if they are confident in Gomez's healthy return. Plus, it's the right thing to do for Clyne - keeps him happy and, presumably, keeps locker room grumbling in check. Plus, if the Cherries pick some or all of the £70k/week wages, that's useful, too.

    Let's see what they do with Lallana, Solanke, and Origi. The former two need time on the pitch to regain their form an continue developing, respectively. With Origi, it would be nice just to get some return on the investment.

    Edit: Looks like it was a productive meeting with Bournemouth - Solanke transferred.
     
  30. BCsMightyJoeYoung

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    #280 BCsMightyJoeYoung, Jan 4, 2019
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  31. PedroSpecialK

    PedroSpecialK Comes at you like a tornado of hair and the NHL sa Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Bought for £3m, sold to Bournemouth 18 months later for £19m.

    I'll gladly take that and run
     
  32. 67YAZ

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    A 600%+ profit after 18 months for a player on the fringes of the first team? Hell yes.
     
  33. Zososoxfan

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    I was talking with my buddy during the match and I remarked about how similar the lineups, tactics, squads, etc. were, but that MANC had a huge advantage in terms of squad depth. But, looking at that lineup, it's pretty dang solid. MANC still gets the nod for depth--any club that has Aguero and Jesus and doesn't start both likely will--but I don't think any club in the world can match Sane, Silva, Bernardo, Sterling, KDB, Mahrez. It's remarkable MANC can keep all those players considering PT concerns. Silva is likely gone next year due to age, Sane may push for a move to get more consistent PT, and I still think Jesus gets a ton of interest from RM, but I guess the wages will keep enough of these guys there not to worry.
     
  34. PedroSpecialK

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    Lovren goes down 5' into this one with what looks to be a hamstring or quad issue. Hoever is being subbed on.
     
  35. CPT Neuron

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    Hoping that those bones are healed quickly for the Gomez and Matip
     
  36. CPT Neuron

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    Sadly, Lovren can continue to hurt us from the treatment room given the injury situation...
     
  37. 67YAZ

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    Ugh, but it's nice to see the kids getting some time on the pitch. Really, I'm just pulling for a decisive outcome in this match - won or lose, just please for the love of god no replay.
     
  38. PedroSpecialK

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    Well that was ugly. Not sure what Milner was doing both in midfield and tracking back there

    Ditto Fabinho in that CB role diving in at midfield
     
  39. PedroSpecialK

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    Holy shit, Origi

    Klopp looking like he realized a replay may be on the cards

    And of course Mignolet gets beaten from 35 yards
     
  40. CPT Neuron

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    That was a rocket!
     
  41. CPT Neuron

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    Mignolet has to do better on that....excellent shot, but still....
     
  42. PedroSpecialK

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    Insane free kick by Shaqiri thwarted by an outstanding fingertip save by Ruddy and some post luck
     
  43. CPT Neuron

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    Not surprising or that problematic to drop out at this stage, I'd say....and the fact that Hoever got some time and didn't look to be swimming out of his depth to be honest is about the best take away from the game
     
  44. 67YAZ

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    Camacho put in a good shift, too. But Hoever was very impressive having come off the bench to play CB. Maybe the squad won't miss Clyne after all.
     
  45. Tangled Up In Red

    Tangled Up In Red Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Hate to say it, but losing this cup match increases your chance on winning the league.
     
  46. PedroSpecialK

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    Klopp's reaction to Origi's goal says it all



    Away to Brighton on Saturday
     
  47. BCsMightyJoeYoung

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    The problem is getting playing time for the squad players. That might have been Mignolet’s last appearance in a Reds kit. And the youngun’s are not going to see the field without a bunch of injuries.

    Was really impressed by Hoever .. the kid showed excellent pace and a real awareness of his surroundings.
     
  48. pedro1918

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    Muller suspended for both games.

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    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46838207
     
  49. SocrManiac

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    Lovren and Van Dijk for the first.
     
  50. SocrManiac

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    Not Lovren, my mistake.
     

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