Let's Talk About Matt Kemp.

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MoGator71

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mattymatty said:
Kemp is owed $128 million over the next six seasons (including 2014). That's two years, $40+ million more than Carl Crawford is owed, which is to say it's a lot of money. Kemp can push for a deal all he wants, but unless he proves he's healthy and/or the Dodgers eat salary, it's hard to see anyone taking on his contract, let alone giving up anything of value for him. Unless Tony Reagins gets another GM job. Then maybe.
He's also clearly a better player than Carl Crawford. And Crawford didn't cost the Dodgers any assets to acquire; he was the albatross they had to accept if they wanted Adrian Gonzalez. I agree with your general point about his trade value, but he hasn't reached CC disaster levels just yet. As a test, ask yourself if you had Carl Crawford and were offered Matt Kemp for him straight up, do you do it? Yes you do, 10 times out of 10. 
 
 

Papelbon's Poutine said:
He's pushing for a trade to get out of being a 4th OF, so let's trade for him and make him a 4th OF. You're killing it today.
Like he'd be a 4th OF here. Well actually with Gomes on the roster, maybe he would.
 
The Dodgers knew what they were dealing with all offseason, they should have eaten what they needed to eat to move one of these guys. Since they're not idiots I'm thinking Kemp isn't any kind of good bet to be healthy and productive.
 
 

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If Kemp is healthy and returns to some semblance of the form he showed pre-2013, he's not the Dodgers' fourth OF, he's their starting CF.  In which case, they'd be fools to trade him.  If he isn't healthy and can't be the player he was pre-2013, then a team would have to be desperate for OF help to trade for him, even if he's heavily subsidized.  Since the Red Sox don't really fit the profile of a team desperate for OF help, I don't see them being a likely trade partner.
 

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Papelbon's Poutine said:
He's pushing for a trade to get out of being a 4th OF, so let's trade for him and make him a 4th OF. You're killing it today.
 
I don't believe I said anything about making him a 4th OF.
 

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Papelbon's Poutine said:
Well if Sizemore is awesome in LF and your concern is vic getting older then where is he playing everyday? Do you really want to install him in CF after the injuries he's had?
I was kinda thinking right field. We get to the deadline, Vic is looking like the mistake people were talking about last year, we could get Kemp, make Vic a really expensive 4th of.

Or maybe JBJ just isn't working, they get Kemp for right and slide Vic over.

There are scenarios where it would make sense.
 

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If Kemp is healthy and returns to some semblance of the form he showed pre-2013, he's not the Dodgers' fourth OF, he's their starting CF.  In which case, they'd be fools to trade him.  If he isn't healthy and can't be the player he was pre-2013, then a team would have to be desperate for OF help to trade for him, even if he's heavily subsidized.  Since the Red Sox don't really fit the profile of a team desperate for OF help, I don't see them being a likely trade partner.
 
Not saying they are desperate but Gomes is a FA after this year, Victorino is only signed till next year, JBJ is untested, and there is not much OF depth that is close to MLB ready (maybe Brentz). Sizemore is the primary backup plan for CF in case JBJ fails, although Victorino could move over there if needed,  and there is not much available via free agency next year (except for Rasmus and Gardner).
 
Not sold on Kemp though.  Had a great 2011 like Ellsbury and has not been healthy since, and not sure he ever will be.  I think the Dodgers realize they will maximize their returns by waiting for Kemp to get on the field and show he is ok.    By that time the Red Sox should have a better handle on JBJ.
 

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If Kemp approaches what he did when he was healthy the Red Sox would presumably be engaged assuming some type of subsidy. However these discussions are far out because it seems pretty consensus he will not be ready for early opening day in Australia. 
 
I assume this thread will eventually get close in length to the obnoxious Drew thread. Kemp is an immensely talented player who if he can prove healthy would be wanted by any team. I also think even a subsidized Ethier or Crawford would be tough to move for LA so Kemp will be the one to go for some combination of prospects and payroll flexibility even if the Dodgers payroll theoretically has no limit. 
 

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If any team is prepared to make a reckless, high-risk trade for Kemp, it's Jack Z's Mariners.
 
I would have said the Yankees, but they have a glut of outfielders as it stands. Of course, between Ellsbury and Beltran, you'll probably have a year's worth of missed games.
 

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http://www.sportsmedia101.com/losangelesdodgers/2014/02/28/report-matt-kemp-taking-part-in-outfield-drills-mri-likely-clean/
 
According to Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register, Matt Kemp's MRI likely showed enough progress in his surgically-repaired ankle that he was cleared to participate in drills with the Los Angeles Dodgers.
 
This is a significant development in Kemp's recovery, as manager Don Mattingly has mentioned that Kemp needed to be cleared before doing any running drills. This may mean that Kemp is able to return to the field sooner rather than later, with many recent reports indicating that early April may even be too optimistic as a timetable.
 
The Dodgers are fortunate to have their much-discussed outfield depth intact, as this will allow Kemp to take his time as he returns. Kemp himself has said he plans to make sure he is 100 percent healed before returning to action.
 
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Matt Kemp fielding grounders in OF during drills again. Not likely he'd be doing that if MRI showed problems with ankle's healing #Dodgers
— Bill Plunkett (@billplunkettocr) February 28, 2014
 

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I'm not sure if "fortunate" and "outfield depth" are really the correct words to describe having a bench player making 8 figures, whether it's Kemp, Ethier, or Crawford. 
 
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