Kyrie’s comments on race in Boston

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This coward has taken a genuinely combustible, national situation and falsely applied it to his own lack of character and integrity.
 

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Really hoping some Celtics push back on this and defend the fanbase. This team is spineless on the floor but they shouldn’t stand for this nonsense off of it. I know there have been some race issues in the past, but that is such a bullshit out of left field quote that totally ignores the reason why the fans might be hostile toward him.

Or maybe Kyrie is just a little sensitive after all those racist incidents he has had to endure here before.

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2019/03/kyrie-irving-says-he-hasnt-experienced-racism-in-boston-but-hearing-about-it-its-a-little-saddening.html

Fuck this clown to the end of his flat earth.
 

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Jaylen can still contribute to this postseason by speaking out. He's the best guy available IMO (or Russell)
 

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If Kyrie has a legitimate experience share it and maybe we can learn. If not, fuck right the hell off.

I'd take this very seriously coming from almost any other player in the NBA.

From him, not so much.
 

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So, now if you go to the game and boo him, you're a racist.
And if you don't boo him, you're a subtle racist. Seems to cover all the bases. Would have been easier for him if he just came up with another injury; let's face it, the Nets don't need him or that distraction to win easily.
 

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Really hoping some Celtics push back on this and defend the fanbase. This team is spineless on the floor but they shouldn’t stand for this nonsense off of it. I know there have been some race issues in the past, but that is such a bullshit out of left field quote that totally ignores the reason why the fans might be hostile toward him.
Do we know if it is nonsense? I mean, I have no idea if it is or isn’t but the Celtics players response will be telling in this case. Silence would speak volumes imo.
 

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Do we know if it is nonsense? I mean, I have no idea if it is or isn’t but the Celtics players response will be telling in this case. Silence would speak volumes imo.
I haven't been to a game in person in several years, but in my experience since the mid-90s (Bird era was a bit different - that crowd was all painters caps and moustaches) the Celtics crowd at the Garden was the most young and diverse public gathering of people at any event in Boston. Totally different than, say, the crowd at a Red Sox or Bruins game.

I've never seen or heard a whiff of anything with a racist tinge at those games. He's full of shit and this is entirely an attempt to head off the treatment he's bound to get there.

Edit: and to your point, there's no one on this team right now who is connected to Boston more than the NBA community. You really think Jayson Tatum is wading into this? 2008 Paul Pierce or 2010 Kevin Garnett would have, but I don't see anyone on this team who has that vibe with the city. And we know Tatum in particular is interested in remaining chummy with Irving. I guess we'll see.
 

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Do we know if it is nonsense? I mean, I have no idea if it is or isn’t but the Celtics players response will be telling in this case. Silence would speak volumes imo.
Agreed. How many incidents like the ones Marcus describes here would it take before you soured on a whole city. If you have someone screaming the n-word at you, maybe your first instinct isn't self reflection? I'm not Kyrie apologist, but I don't think him having some shitty experiences in Boston is all that off the wall. Also, in street clothes, I can't imagine Kyrie is all that intimidating, unlike Marcus who's built like a linebacker. I'm sure the racists would be even more emboldened when they see skinny Kyrie.
 

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I’m not sure I want Tatum taking the passive aggressive troll bait from Kyrie on this topic while in the middle of a playoff series. A simple “Kyrie’s not here” would suffice.
 

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Do we know if it is nonsense? I mean, I have no idea if it is or isn’t but the Celtics players response will be telling in this case. Silence would speak volumes imo.
It’s not going to be silence but theyre not going to say anything that matters about it either.

I guarantee you that every quote is something along the lines of “I haven’t experienced what Kyrie has so I can’t speak to what he’s talking about but racism needs has no place at NBA games”.

While i do believe there have been racist chants and epithets at Boston games, Kyrie is about the worst messenger for this. Honestly, I don’t believe the guy at all. He’s so full of shit and always tries to play the victim.
 

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If you haven't yet, I suggest everyone read this article. Talks to 30 current and former Celtics players about being a black NBA player in Boston. I found it most interesting how some former players said they never had a problem but their families all did (reference to a Bruins game in there). They felt being a Celtic insulated them.
 

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It’s not going to be silence but theyre not going to say anything that matters about it either.

I guarantee you that every quote is something along the lines of “I haven’t experienced what Kyrie has so I can’t speak to what he’s talking about but racism needs has no place at NBA games”.

While i do believe there have been racist chants and epithets at Boston games, Kyrie is about the worst messenger for this. Honestly, I don’t believe the guy at all. He’s so full of shit and always tries to play the victim.
Yeah, that's the thing. I don't believe him. Not one bit. I'd believe pretty much anyone else but him. Obvious attempt to deflect the fuck you chants is obvious.
 

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Yeah, that's the thing. I don't believe him. Not one bit. I'd believe pretty much anyone else but him. Obvious attempt to deflect the fuck you chants is obvious.
He's specifically talking about people in the crowd at the Garden for Celtics games. It's horseshit. If someone was yelling racist comments at a Celtics game they would have a better than even chance of being punched in the face by another fan.
 

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I don't expect to see any current players say anything publicly rebuking Kyrie; its an unnecessary involvement for them and I would even imagine that since some of them have undoubtedly experienced racism from Boston fans/residents, they may even agree with some of the general principles Kyrie is raising. Also, the current team hasn't really said anything negative about Kyrie publicly since he left, and god knows they probably have some negative things to say about him.

What I think the best/reasonable thing to happen is for a retired Celtic, ideally Pierce but probably Perk, to come out and call out Kyrie's statement for what it is: an attempt to shield himself from the boos and make it reflect poorly on the Boston fanbase.
 

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It’s not going to be silence but theyre not going to say anything that matters about it either.

I guarantee you that every quote is something along the lines of “I haven’t experienced what Kyrie has so I can’t speak to what he’s talking about but racism needs has no place at NBA games”.

While i do believe there have been racist chants and epithets at Boston games, Kyrie is about the worst messenger for this. Honestly, I don’t believe the guy at all. He’s so full of shit and always tries to play the victim.
I'm honestly not doing the reflexive, defend the honor of old Boston thing, just genuinely asking about bolded. Are there any previously documented instances of this? Individual racist morons I have no trouble believing, but it seems like chants by multiple fans would have been reported. Beyond that, as noted by you and others, Kyrie is a disingenuous, unreliable narrater here. "Subtle racism" casts a pretty wide net, and seems clearly designed to preemptively impugn anyone who boos him or rides him any way.
 

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I don't expect to see any current players say anything publicly rebuking Kyrie; its an unnecessary involvement for them and I would even imagine that since some of them have undoubtedly experienced racism from Boston fans/residents, they may even agree with some of the general principles Kyrie is raising. Also, the current team hasn't really said anything negative about Kyrie publicly since he left, and god knows they probably have some negative things to say about him.

What I think the best/reasonable thing to happen is for a retired Celtic, ideally Pierce but probably Perk, to come out and call out Kyrie's statement for what it is: an attempt to shield himself from the boos and make it reflect poorly on the Boston fanbase.
Perk did exactly this on the postgame show last night.
 

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Whatever the truth of his statement is, he just ensured the boos will be even louder than expected, so, good job?
 

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Kyrie finds a way to make this basically over series about him still. I'm shocked.

I'm with Jose. Anyone else, I'd hear him out. I'd be surprised if there isn't truth to it.

But Kyrie, who knows.
 

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Kyrie has done a disservice to the people who are trying hard to get this city to address its very real problems with race.
I'm never really sure how to approach these situations. It's 100% believable that he experienced racism - especially subtle racism - in Boston or [insert major city]. However, his attempt to seemingly use it as a shield from getting booed... I dunno.
 

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Kyrie has done a disservice to the people who are trying hard to get this city to address its very real problems with race.
Couldn't agree more. I have no doubt that he either personally experienced racism in Boston, or heard plenty from people he trusted. Boston definitely has issues with race and it's foolish to suggest otherwise but given his history with the team and the timing of the statement it very much undermines the message.

It is what it is, you know? The whole world knows it and there’s no reason to go into detail.
I really wish he'd gone with 'people around the world know it'
 

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Here's what I don't get. Irving throws out this incendiary charge at the end of his press conference and is laughing about it, which is unbelievably disrespectful to those NBA athletes who have taken a lead role in combatting racism via the BLM movement and others. I don't know what the motivation is for the laugh, but he is treating perhaps the most explosive and sensitive issue in American society today as a shield against being boo'd by a hostile sports crowd. As mentioned above, if he has experienced real racism from Boston fans or society, then let us know with specificity what has happened so that it can be treated with the seriousness it deserves. If not, then he's a gargantuan piece of shit and a fucking coward.
 

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I f****ing hate this guy.

He's an awful leader. He bails on any situation that gets tough. And now he is picking an an open wound to try to get cover for the well-deserved reception forthcoming.

I don't wish him well in the future. I wish him the opposite of well.
 

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I'm never really sure how to approach these situations. It's 100% believable that he experienced racism - especially subtle racism - in Boston or [insert major city]. However, his attempt to seemingly use it as a shield from getting booed... I dunno.
The timing is the issue. I 100% think Boston fans are as racist as they come and 100% believe THEY are the problem ...99% of the time.

But this timing is garbage. He's a coward and a weak leader who is using a real issue only to try to sway some semblance of national media opinion to give him cover when he gets booed mercilessly.
 

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Kyrie is a walking instantiation of "if you meet one asshole today, you met an asshole. If you meet 10 assholes, you're probably the asshole."
 

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Nice bullsh**t cover Kyrie to avoid getting boo'd and playing the Boston race card. I don't recall him talking about racial problems when he was here?
Great job Danny :rolleyes: bringing this delicate flower into Boston. I constantly read on here how the front office/coaches know so much more than us mouthbreathers. Well, Danny & Co certainly got this dude wrong with all their inside information (Kyrie's self-serving, opportunistic behavior had been flagged)

This team (and all NE sports teams) need to weigh EQ along with talent before adding them to this intense sports/media town. Nothing new there, that's been the Boston free agent sports MO for 50yrs

ALSO, the "Boston is a racist city" history and narrative has to be addressed in a larger way. Wyc, the Krafts, Henry, etc need to lead & team up with Harvard and start a $100MM (headline-grabbing #) initiative to address Minority Issues for the entire New England area. Permanently banning racist freaks from ballparks/arenas isn't enough. Recruit former/current athletes, celebrities, pols, community leaders, religious groups, whoever wants to lead/help.
 

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Wow, he pulls the race card yesterday of all days?

What a reprehensible human being.
Look, our nation’s racial problems, especially between police and people of color, has been a daily topic since George Floyd was murdered. Black men in particular are speaking out at perceived injustices. Whether you hate him or not, Kyrie is an intelligent person who always speaks out. If he, or any other Black person, is worried about things, I expect them to speak out. Kyrie made it about Boston but it could be about any American city, sad as that may seem. Maybe Kyrie will sit down with a network person and elaborate. If I were ABC News, that interview would be my top priority this weekend. Let the man speak.
 

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So what did we learn of KI's recent press conference?

Not a fucking thing.

He's the same asshole he's always been.

He played the race card to deflect from his lack of character and his dishonesty.

Fuck him.
 

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Look, our nation’s racial problems, especially between police and people of color, has been a daily topic since George Floyd was murdered. Black men in particular are speaking out at perceived injustices. Whether you hate him or not, Kyrie is an intelligent person who always speaks out. If he, or any other Black person, is worried about things, I expect them to speak out. Kyrie made it about Boston but it could be about any American city, sad as that may seem. Maybe Kyrie will sit down with a network person and elaborate. If I were ABC News, that interview would be my top priority this weekend. Let the man speak.
Lol
 

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I say don't feed the troll. He's doing what every narcissist does--making a/every situation about him.
These recent comments, just like his flat earth missives, should be ignored.
 

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Look, our nation’s racial problems, especially between police and people of color, has been a daily topic since George Floyd was murdered. Black men in particular are speaking out at perceived injustices. Whether you hate him or not, Kyrie is an intelligent person who always speaks out. If he, or any other Black person, is worried about things, I expect them to speak out. Kyrie made it about Boston but it could be about any American city, sad as that may seem. Maybe Kyrie will sit down with a network person and elaborate. If I were ABC News, that interview would be my top priority this weekend. Let the man speak.
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Look, our nation’s racial problems, especially between police and people of color, has been a daily topic since George Floyd was murdered. Black men in particular are speaking out at perceived injustices. Whether you hate him or not, Kyrie is an intelligent person who always speaks out. If he, or any other Black person, is worried about things, I expect them to speak out. Kyrie made it about Boston but it could be about any American city, sad as that may seem. Maybe Kyrie will sit down with a network person and elaborate. If I were ABC News, that interview would be my top priority this weekend. Let the man speak.
If he wants to discuss those perceived injustices and is worried about things, then go ahead, he should if there are specific examples he wants to point out.

If he wants to throw cryptic and coy comments out with no specific examples, all that does is stir the pot.

I'm sure Kyrie is dying to sit down with a network person and elaborate.

Sure he is.
 

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I can’t tell if your post is sarcasm or not, but we are talking about a guy who appears to have legitimately believed, for at least some period of time, that the Earth was flat. So, “intelligent” is not the word I would use.
I hate defending Kyrie and I’m not.....but at least be accurate with what his position is/was. He never said that he believes the earth was flat iirc.....it was that he didn’t know if it was flat or not and that he wanted to question it. Never did he say he legitimately believed the earth was flat unless I missed something he said later.
 

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Kyrie is a guy who thinks he is intellectually open minded and thoughtful, and that self perception is fed by reporters who seem to agree, but he’s unable to filter and synthesize information.
 

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Nice bullsh**t cover Kyrie to avoid getting boo'd and playing the Boston race card. I don't recall him talking about racial problems when he was here?
Great job Danny :rolleyes: bringing this delicate flower into Boston. I constantly read on here how the front office/coaches know so much more than us mouthbreathers. Well, Danny & Co certainly got this dude wrong with all their inside information (Kyrie's self-serving, opportunistic behavior had been flagged)

This team (and all NE sports teams) need to weigh EQ along with talent before adding them to this intense sports/media town. Nothing new there, that's been the Boston free agent sports MO for 50yrs

ALSO, the "Boston is a racist city" history and narrative has to be addressed in a larger way. Wyc, the Krafts, Henry, etc need to lead & team up with Harvard and start a $100MM (headline-grabbing #) initiative to address Minority Issues for the entire New England area. Permanently banning racist freaks from ballparks/arenas isn't enough. Recruit former/current athletes, celebrities, pols, community leaders, religious groups, whoever wants to lead/help.
Not only did they get Kyrie wrong, but by all indications they severely misread the likelihood that AD would follow him here. Putting all the eggs in that basket was...not smart. They seem to be the last to know about a lot of this stuff. Russilo has indicated on pods that he had well sourced material dating to the time of Kyrie's "if you'll have me" speech that he was not staying.
 

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Kyrie is a guy who thinks he is intellectually open minded and thoughtful, and that self perception is fed by reporters who seem to agree, but he’s unable to filter and synthesize information.
There's a huge difference between being opened minded and being empty headed and as we see with KI, the two are not mutually exclusive.
 

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Yeah he did it to annoy people, and get attention but also....
If you think people aren't racists at Celtics games you're delusional, there is a long history of it and players around the league mention Boston with Utah, OKC, etc. as the places that you most often hear racist stuff.