Dismiss Notice
Guest, I have a big favor to ask you. We've been working very hard to establish ourselves on social media. If you like/follow our pages it would be a HUGE help to us. SoSH on Facebook and Inside the Pylon Thanks! Nip

Josh Ockimey, 1B: 2014 MLB Draft 5th Round

Discussion in 'The Adopt a Prospect Forum' started by AlNipper49, Jun 6, 2014.

  1. AlNipper49

    AlNipper49 Huge Member Dope

    Messages:
    40,260
    [​IMG]
     
    https://twitter.com/NG_Baseball2014/status/474995226667679745
     

    http://prospectinsider.com/tag/josh-ockimey
     
  2. BosRedSox5

    BosRedSox5 what's an original thought?

    Messages:
    1,471
     
    MLB.com has him listed at 6-1 215 which is a serious drop off in height. Multiple sources have the 6'4'' 220 stats though. Weird. Just how big is this dude? 
     
  3. AlNipper49

    AlNipper49 Huge Member Dope

    Messages:
    40,260
     
    So we drafted Lars Anderson 2.0 and Sam Horn 2.0 this year? :)
     
  4. soxhop411

    soxhop411 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    34,007
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJOit4S6FY
     
  5. BosRedSox5

    BosRedSox5 what's an original thought?

    Messages:
    1,471
     
    You mean Travis isn't the next Jeff Bagwell? 
     
    -----

    Anyway, am I crazy, or does Ockimey's swing look a little weird? 

    He sort of leans towards the ball as it arrives. It looks weird, and you would think as a power hitter he'd be putting more weight on his back leg at the point of impact. Not only that, but because of this lean, his hands drift a bit. Once you've loaded and are waiting for the pitch, there shouldn't be a lot of movement there, you should be ready to swing. 

    He's got good feet, a short step and his hips drive his swing, which is all very good... but I would imagine that the Sox instructors might want to encourage him to stay back and wait for the ball. Leaning towards the pitcher as you swing can lead to difficulty as he faces better and better pitching.
     
  6. AlNipper49

    AlNipper49 Huge Member Dope

    Messages:
    40,260
    Everything I'm reading (I had never heard of him before) is indicating that his swing does have some serious flaws but his athleticism suggests that it's something that can be fixed.  Or we hope will get fixed.  (alas the Sam reference)
     
  7. DrewDawg

    DrewDawg Dorito Dink SoSH Member

    Messages:
    33,358
     
    Well, isn't that kind of what the report a few posts about you says? That he gets out in front too early, but it's correctable.
     
    He's using it as a timing mechanism and it saps his power.
     
  8. Detts

    Detts Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    4,299
    Josh just needs to say 'no' and go to college. 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    (note:  I am an Indiana grad).
     
     
     
     
     
     
  9. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    37,747
    Nope, this is Brandon Jacobs 2.0.
     
  10. nvalvo

    nvalvo Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

    Messages:
    16,048
    Needs to quiet down the head movement, too. But I like to see them drafting some potential power bats in the middle rounds. 
     
  11. mabrowndog

    mabrowndog Ask me about total zone...or paint Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    39,676
    Perfect Game.org scouting report from June 2013
     
     
  12. mabrowndog

    mabrowndog Ask me about total zone...or paint Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    39,676
    A pre-draft feature story that re-aired last night on CSN Philly. FWIW, he's still got an Indiana avatar on his Twitter profile:
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6eIAuciBig
     
  13. TheGoldenGreek33

    TheGoldenGreek33 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    1,934
     
    Yeah, he needs to sign. The Hoosiers are losing their No. 2, 3 and 5-hole hitters and their ace pitcher. Ockimey is their top recruit as the No. 225th high school player in the class.
     
  14. Red(s)HawksFan

    Red(s)HawksFan Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    10,376
    https://twitter.com/alexspeier/status/476892495532797952
     
  15. mabrowndog

    mabrowndog Ask me about total zone...or paint Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    39,676
    My timing is impeccable. ;)
     
    Great news. Lots to work on with this kid.
     
    Please don't be Sam Horn, Lars Anderson or Otis Foster. Please don't be Sam Horn, Lars Anderson or Otis Foster. Please don't be Sam Horn, Lars Anderson or Otis Foster. Please don't be Sam Horn, Lars Anderson or Otis Foster. Please don't be Sam Horn, Lars Anderson or Otis Foster. Please don't be Sam Horn, Lars Anderson or Otis Foster. Please don't be Sam Horn, Lars Anderson or Otis Foster. Please don't be Sam Horn, Lars Anderson or Otis Foster. Please don't be Sam Horn, Lars Anderson or Otis Foster. Please don't be Sam Horn, Lars Anderson or Otis Foster.
     
  16. Mike F

    Mike F Mayor of Fort Myers Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    2,067
    Let's not forget Jeff Ledbetter.
     
  17. curly2

    curly2 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    3,947
    Or Greg Blosser.
     
  18. mt8thsw9th

    mt8thsw9th anti-SoSHal SoSH Member

    Messages:
    17,097
     
    If the Red Sox get over 1000 ABs at a 119 OPS+ clip out of a 5th round pick, they should be ecstatic. 
     
    And what's the story with Otis Foster? He was an OBP machine in the minors and never cracked the bigs. There's also pretty much nothing about him on the internet, either. Looking at when he should have gotten a cup of coffee, he was pretty much buried behind Yaz, George Scott, and Bob Watson.
     
    And seriously, if he's half the minor leaguer than the guys mentioned above (who were all pretty high draft picks), they've done well. Though I guess it's fitting that Mookie Betts was picked there 3 years ago, so he's probably set the bar high for 5th rounders.
     
  19. Eddie Jurak

    Eddie Jurak Go Leafs Go Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    20,763
    Apparently the only thing higher than his OBP was his weight.
     
  20. ji oh

    ji oh lurker

    Messages:
    271
  21. mabrowndog

    mabrowndog Ask me about total zone...or paint Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    39,676
    Hopefully the first of thousands more while wearing the laundry...
     
    [​IMG]
     
  22. The Allented Mr Ripley

    The Allented Mr Ripley holden Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    11,520
    Ockimey got a nice mention in BA's Prospect Hot Sheet this week:

     
  23. Jed Zeppelin

    Jed Zeppelin Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    34,502
    I just hope he builds a career successful enough for SoSH to use a bunch of bad Ockimey's Razor puns.
     
  24. FanSinceBoggs

    FanSinceBoggs seantwo SoSH Member

    Messages:
    937
    Ockimey has turned into an interesting prospect. Mayo had him ranked as the 16th best prospect in the Red Sox system and said the following about him:

    Currently, in Greenville, Ockimey has 26 W and 27 K in almost 100 ABs, along with a 1.025 OPS. The thing that stood out to me is his youth--he is only 20 years old. He could be an ascending prospect.
     
  25. grimshaw

    grimshaw the new rudy SoSH Member

    Messages:
    3,365
    I'd like to see him bumped up soon to see if his plate discipline is real. It seems like they're now pitching around him.
     
  26. jmm57

    jmm57 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    1,278
    Up to a 38 game sample, still not huge, but he has nearly doubled his BB% (10.9 to 21.1) and slashed his K% from 34.1% to 22.4% and gotten his ISO up above .250 in the jump from A- to A. I'd like to see the jump to AA, but he's still young-ish for the level.
     
  27. Hee Sox Choi

    Hee Sox Choi Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    5,860
  28. The Allented Mr Ripley

    The Allented Mr Ripley holden Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    11,520
    Pull quote:

     
  29. bosox79

    bosox79 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    9,743
    He's cooled off considerably in the 2nd half. .165/.258/.392. 10bb/29k in 89 PA. The walk rate and ISO are still in line with the rest of the season though, maybe just a babip issue. He does have 5 HRs in that stretch, contact is a concern though.
     
  30. carnie207

    carnie207 lurker

    Messages:
    5
    Or Phil Plantier
     
  31. pantsparty

    pantsparty Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    332
  32. bosox79

    bosox79 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    9,743
    He had a huge day yesterday in the first game of the doubleheader, going 3/4 with 2 HRs and 6 rbi.

    For the year, he's now at .404/.477/.692 with a 15.4% BB rate and 26.2% K rate in 65 PA.
    His rates last year 17.6% BB rate, 25.9% K rate (499 PA).

    He still strikes out way too much but he did move up a level so it's nice to see the K rate hasn't gone up, at least not yet. This year 46% of his PA have resulted in 1 of the 3 true outcomes (k, bb, HR). Last year, 47.1%.
     
  33. bosox79

    bosox79 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    9,743
    Ockimey hit his 4th HR of the year last night. He is up to 101 PA and is slashing .346/.455/.590. He has 18 walks and 24 strikeouts.
     
  34. bosox79

    bosox79 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    9,743
    He's now at 132 PA and slashing .327/.439/.529. He has 22bb/32k for a 16.7% BB rate and 24.2% K rate. He's already been IBB 3 times this year.

    He's also hitting lefties much better this year but 59 PA is a tiny sample. .326/.396/.512 (6bb/16k) this year after hitting .196/.291/.304 in 2015 (52PA, 6bb/15k) and .192/.272/.329 in 2016 (81 PA, 8bb/21k).
     
  35. bosox79

    bosox79 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    9,743
    Currently has a 17 game hitting streak where he's slashing .333/.432/.540 with a .490 BAbip in 74 PA with 9bb/20k. He has 4 doubles and 3 HRs in that period. He's at .320/.421/.520 with a BAbip of .405 in 216 PA for the year. 32bb/55k.

    It'll be interesting to see if they promote him or not. I can see a case either way.
     
  36. bosox79

    bosox79 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    9,743
    Last 14 games, 53 PA .163/.321/.178. That includes today's 2 games, the .233 BAbip does not. Good news is he has 10bb/9k during that stretch so it looks like mostly bad BAbip luck. .290/.401/.453 for the year. Prior to today's game his BAbip was .375.
     
  37. bosox79

    bosox79 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    9,743
    Ockimey hit his 8th HR and his first since 5/29 last night. Over his last 25 games, 106 PA: .190/.358/.270 on a .246 BAbip. The good news is he has 22bb/22k in that time so his struggle isn't the same as last years. Only 5 extra base hits though. He's now at .279/.400/.439 for the year in 325 PA with 54bb/78k.
     
  38. bosox79

    bosox79 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    9,743
    Ockimey has been hitting better since 7/3, slashing .264/.339/.547, .344 BAbip in 59 PA, 6bb/18k. 4 doubles, 1 triple, 3 HRs. He is now at .272/.389/.443 for the season with 60bb/94k in 378 PA.
     
  39. bosox79

    bosox79 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    9,743
    Looks like Josh Ockimey is finally starting to heat up again. He went 3/5 with his 11th HR of the season last night. It's his 3rd HR in 7 games. He had gone 117 PA without a HR from May 31st-July 2nd. The last 7 games have brought his July line to .269/.359/.537 on a .350 BAbip.

    April: .338/.427/.563
    May: .305/.424/.484
    June: .212/.362/.271
    July: .269/.359/.537

    Last year, he started off amazing. He hit a slump and never broke out of it. This year, he had a 113 PA stretch of .198/.354/.253, .267 BAbip. However, during that stretch, he had 22bb and 25 strikeouts. He is back up to .278/.393/.454 for the year with a K% rate of exactly 25% and a BB rate of 15.7%. Last year he was at 25.9% K rate, 17.6% BB rate. Most of his improvement this year stems from a .359 BAbip, last year he was at .284.

    For reference, last year he hit .165/.305/.331 on a .205 BAbip the final 295 PA of the year. He had a 27.5% K rate and 15.6% BB rate during that stretch.
     
  40. moondog80

    moondog80 heart is two sizes two small SoSH Member

    Messages:
    5,090
    OBP of .362 in his otherwise horrible month seems encouraging?
     
  41. Snodgrass'Muff

    Snodgrass'Muff oppresses WARmongers SoSH Member

    Messages:
    27,644
    He's got 3 HR in his last 7 games to go along with two 3 hit nights. Might be heating up. We discussed him and Roldani Baldwin on the podcast this week. Episode should be up tomorrow afternoon some time if anyone is curious.
     
  42. The Allented Mr Ripley

    The Allented Mr Ripley holden Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    11,520
    Ockimey was promoted to Portland yesterday, he went 0-3 with a walk in his Sea Dog debut.
     
  43. The Allented Mr Ripley

    The Allented Mr Ripley holden Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    11,520
    Ockimey hit HRs in back-to-back games on Fri & Sat against Bowie. His two other hits since being promoted were doubles. SSS of 5 games, but he's slugging .706 with an OPS of 1.115 as a Sea Dog.
     
  44. The Allented Mr Ripley

    The Allented Mr Ripley holden Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    11,520
    Ockimey had a brutal stretch in mid-August, but rebounded nicely, closing the year with a 10-game hitting streak, batting .424 over that span.

    His numbers at AA for the year: .272/.372/.427 for an OPS of .799 in 103 AB. 3 HR and 11 RBI. His BB/K rates mirrored his MiL career numbers; his eye is strong, draws a lot of walks, but also strikes out a lot (~28%). Overall a solid debut at that level for a 21-year old.
     
    #44 The Allented Mr Ripley, Sep 6, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2017
  45. The Allented Mr Ripley

    The Allented Mr Ripley holden Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    11,520
    After a slow start to the year, Ockimey has been hitting well as of late, batting .371 with 2 HR and 10 RBI over his last 10 games.

    He's at .266/.373/.453 for an OPS of .826 in 139 AB. 6 HR and 25 RBI.
     
  46. bringbackburks

    bringbackburks lurker

    Messages:
    40
    He deserves another bump. Over the last two weeks he's been hitting around .400 and has brought his season line up to .295/.397/.520. Strikeouts are still there, but the rate has gone down a little bit recently. He and Shawaryn are starting to but themselves into position for a bump to Pawtucket
     
  47. charlieoscar

    charlieoscar Member

    Messages:
    1,339
    Ockimey's eating habits...June 27, 2018 at New Hampshire Fisher Cats every time he was on deck. He kept in his mouth until he started walking to the plate or back to the dugout. There was some small attachment on the end of the chain but because I was being netting I couldn';t get a clear shot of that.

    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page