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Jason Groome (2016 First Round pick)

Discussion in 'The Adopt a Prospect Forum' started by Lose Remerswaal, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. Lose Remerswaal

    Lose Remerswaal Leaves after the 8th inning Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I know there was a draft thread, but now he's a prospect and here's an interesting article about where he's been on his way to Boston.

     
  2. Brianish

    Brianish Member SoSH Member

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    Uhhh...

    Unless there's been some new development, it doesn't seem particularly well-researched.
     
  3. Lose Remerswaal

    Lose Remerswaal Leaves after the 8th inning Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    It's the Chipola College of the North!
     
  4. FanSinceBoggs

    FanSinceBoggs seantwo SoSH Member

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    A.Speier on Groome's pro debut:
    http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/r...CudM/story.html?p1=Article_Recirculation_Pos3

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  5. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    Dick Such is quite an unfortunate name.
     
  6. Dewy4PrezII

    Dewy4PrezII Very Intense Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Be better if his first name was Adam and Dick was the middle name.

    Such, A. Dick
     
  7. SouthernBoSox

    SouthernBoSox Member SoSH Member

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  8. Green (Tongued) Monster

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    His delivery is really high which allows for a lot of downward plane on his pitches. There is little leg drive as a result, so there seems to be room to add velocity, but he will lose that downward plane some.
     
  9. Plympton91

    Plympton91 bubble burster SoSH Member

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    The comment about trading off a downward angle for more velocity is intriguing to me. I don't understand qu organizations take kids who've never failed at any level, and immediately change something. Not that there's evidence the Red Sox are considering it either, just a general comment. I would let him keep doing what he's been doing until he gets to a level where he's struggling.

    I wonder if there's been an increase in the amount of tinkering in the past 10-15 years with Pitch/Fx mapping release points and spin rates to allow for more targeted adjustments. And, if so, is more likely that changing someone's delivery puts slightly different stresses on muscles and tendons conditioned to one motion since age 6 for a lot of these people. It would be interesting to correlate that with the rise in TJ surgeries.
     
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  10. Snodgrass'Muff

    Snodgrass'Muff oppresses WARmongers SoSH Member

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    Why would you wait to make changes you know you want to make anyway and then have them try to adjust to those new mechanics against tougher hitters? That makes zero sense.
     
  11. Detts

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  12. TheRooster

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    I think P91 is questioning the "you know you want to make anyway" part. Why not see if what works in the past will work at the next level before assuming it won't? I suspect they could determine quite quickly whether the "status quo" is going to translate, but maybe not. Also, the idea of exploring whether modified mechanics correlates with injuries is pretty interesting. You'd hope the teams are on this, but maybe not.
     
  13. koufax32

    koufax32 He'll cry if he wants to... SoSH Member

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    His landing foot is all over the place. That should be easy to fix, no?
     
  14. Laser Show

    Laser Show Member SoSH Member

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    Well this isn't encouraging:

     
  15. LogansDad

    LogansDad Member SoSH Member

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    Well, maybe he will progress in 2019.
     
  16. johnnywayback

    johnnywayback Member SoSH Member

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    Lat strain per Speier, which would be a best-case scenario.
     
  17. Mugsy's Jock

    Mugsy's Jock Longtime Member Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Nowhere to go but up!
     
  18. soxhop411

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  19. PaulinMyrBch

    PaulinMyrBch Don't touch his dog food Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Saw the thread was bumped and I was hoping for news.

    When MiLB kids go on DL, info is scarce. He's on the 7 backdated to 4/11.
     
  20. genoasalami

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  21. Brianish

    Brianish Member SoSH Member

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    Sox Prospects podcast from last night mentioned that Groome is expected to go to Lowell when they start their season.
     
  22. Lose Remerswaal

    Lose Remerswaal Leaves after the 8th inning Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Getting the start tonight in Lowell!
     
  23. The Allented Mr Ripley

    The Allented Mr Ripley holden Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    He pitched well in a rain-abbreviated start: 2.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1BB, 3K. 38 pitches total, 24 for strikes. Vaunted SoSH scout @boogerpressley had the following to say: "Curve was nasty. True 12-6. He was 91-93. Really smooth and easy delivery and located well. I was impressed."
     
  24. John Marzano Olympic Hero

    John Marzano Olympic Hero has fancy plans, and pants to match Dope

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    I can confirm that Booger was indeed impressed.

    The game lasted until one out in the top of the third when it began to rain. But Groome looked really good in his abbreviated start. The first seven Vermont hitters looked overmatched.
     
  25. Brianish

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  26. Savin Hillbilly

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    Shut down for the season with forearm strain according to Ian Browne. "Everything looks good structurally", i.e., no TJ for now.
     
  27. Snodgrass'Muff

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    While forearm strains are never a good sign, "shut down for the season" makes it sound more ominous than it is. He may have had two more starts in the regular season left.
     
  28. Cuzittt

    Cuzittt Bouncing with Anger Dope

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    While snod is largely correct that it sounds more ominous than it might be... Greenville is in the playoffs. So we are probably talking upwards of 5 starts.

    That bring said... it explains how he walked six of the last eight batters he faced last time out.

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  29. simplicio

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  30. chrisfont9

    chrisfont9 Member SoSH Member

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  31. Seels

    Seels Member SoSH Member

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    Well. Seems like kind of a busted pick now, don't it?
     
  32. Detts

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    He’s still young.
     
  33. DeadlySplitter

    DeadlySplitter Member SoSH Member

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    top pitching prospect has his arrival time delayed by a year? is there anything worse for a farm system?
     
  34. chrisfont9

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    Yeah, shoulder issues, which are indefinite and far less likely to be cured.
     
  35. chrisfont9

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    The list of great pitchers who had TJ surgery is pretty long, so I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. Not looking good now though.
     
  36. redsox11507

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  37. doc

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    Recovery rate from TJ surgery is 78%
     
  38. bosox79

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    TINSTAPP. That's why I never question when they trade one of these guys. Kopech is still standing, anyway.

    If there's a silver lining, maybe this explains Groome's poor performance to date.
     
  39. BigSoxFan

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    This certainly doesn’t make not taking Whitley feel any better.
     
  40. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    You win today's Hot Take Prize
     

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