If you use AVG malware software..you may want to rethink that.

Couperin47

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Years ago AVG's free av softeware was one of the first free offerings that wasn't a complete joke. The truth is it's never been very good though the version you pay for is better. AVG has a new privacy policy for their products: starting October 1 their policy states that they WILL be selling everything they know about you (browsing history, search history, devices, providers, application installed on your device) to any and all advertisers.
 
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/09/19/1319201/avg-proudly-announces-it-will-sell-your-browsing-history-to-online-advertisers?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2FslashdotYourRightsOnline+%28Slashdot%3A+Your+Rights+Online%29
 
 

AbbyNoho

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I have thought AVG was Malware for a long time. It auto installs if you're not careful installing other programs and it replaces your homepage, adds a "search" bar, and does a lot of suspicious background stuff.
 

Marceline

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Avast is good for cell phone (android). Not sure about desktop, will let others chime in.
 

Couperin47

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Their consensus here is probably as accurate as you can get on free options:
 
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388652,00.asp
 
Windows Defender in 7, 8 and 10 is considered so inferior to even these as to be almost useless. No one program can defend from everything. A layered approach makes things a lot safer if you match programs that play together nicely and are low on resources. My own preference, often voiced here, is ESET NOD32 paired with Webroot SecureAnywhere.  I regularly mention Newegg sales that allow you purchase both of these for less than $25/year and both are insensitive to whether you install them on 1 or even 5 devices.
 
Here's the PC Mag consesus picks for paid stuff.
 
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372364,00.asp
 

Couperin47

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IpswichSox said:
Coup, I'm running ESET Smart Security 8. Were you disappointed in the PC Mag review for ESET, particularly with regard to malware blocking? Or is it fine?
 
There are about 30 legitimate av/antimalware products these days. Nobody can try let alone test them all. Back in the day when it was dominant and had more resources PC Magazine tried to actually test them, usually quite superficially and their scores were dubious at best. These days they review based upon the results from the 6 'serious' labs that test this stuff and their consensus reviews have more validity. Next variable: every program has tons of setup parameters and if you choose to keep most of the serious stuff and advanced heuristics turned off you make a product look like it runs VERY fast...with lousy results. Turn every protection on and the product can be dramatically slower, use far more resources and protect better. Many of the labs do their tests using as their 'standard' the product as it comes out of the box. Out of the box ESET does not turn on a substantial portion of it's options...I turn everything on and it's still fast , low on resources and plays well with the Webroot product. We have no idea how these labs configure for testing.. if you have not already, go into the advanced settings and, yes it's tedious, but turn most of the protection options on in the setup 'tree'...you only need to do it once. NOD32 generally beats Webroot on sensing and blocking stuff. I've been using it with Webroot for years now, I go to some very nasty sites and haven't had any infections whatsoever in well over 7 years now. That combination also does not interfere with normal operation of Win 7 or 8, there's nothing I do including program installs, updates to OS or programs, run via my VPN, anything else I do, which requires I turn off either program because they are blocking normal operation. My experience is, of course, anecdotal, but they are inexpensive, unobtrusive and have protected me perfectly so I have no hesitation recommending them. I have also installed them on tons of machines I've built and on those of many friends and their experience has also been completely satisfactory.
 

Kull

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Their consensus here is probably as accurate as you can get on free options:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388652,00.asp

Windows Defender in 7, 8 and 10 is considered so inferior to even these as to be almost useless. No one program can defend from everything. A layered approach makes things a lot safer if you match programs that play together nicely and are low on resources. My own preference, often voiced here, is ESET NOD32 paired with Webroot SecureAnywhere. I regularly mention Newegg sales that allow you purchase both of these for less than $25/year and both are insensitive to whether you install them on 1 or even 5 devices.

Here's the PC Mag consesus picks for paid stuff.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372364,00.asp
Based on this recommendation, I did the same thing - paired Webroot and ESET NOD32. Absolutely could not be easier to set up, and haven't had a hint of a problem since. By far the hardest part was deactivating Norton and making sure the zombie annual credit card hit was turned off. Loaded both on my GF's laptop and that of her daughter - literally over 1000 virus varieties on the daughter's laptop. No problems for either of them in the month+ since. Highly recommended (thanks Coup!)
 

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Based on this recommendation, I did the same thing - paired Webroot and ESET NOD32. Absolutely could not be easier to set up, and haven't had a hint of a problem since. By far the hardest part was deactivating Norton and making sure the zombie annual credit card hit was turned off. Loaded both on my GF's laptop and that of her daughter - literally over 1000 virus varieties on the daughter's laptop. No problems for either of them in the month+ since. Highly recommended (thanks Coup!)
I'll echo the thanks to Coup. I followed his recommendation and installed ESET NOD32 paired with Webroot SecureAnywhere a year and a half ago when they were both on sale, and I've been very happy with their performance. They've saved my ass on several occasions. My teenage grandson blew off my offers to protect his new desktop (I had licenses to spare), and after a couple of weeks of downloading Minecraft hacks from questionable sites, he managed to render the thing all but unusable.

My experience with McAfee mirrors yours with Norton. I thought I had turned the damned thing off and uninstalled it, but they kept charging my credit card. It turned out that they had changed the expiration date on my card to something like 2030. It took serious googling and extraordinary effort to de-McAfee-ize my PC. Talk about theftware.
 

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It's the time of year to start looking for rebate based deals on Kaspersky. I'm pretty sure I haven't paid anything but tax on Kaspersky in years. I just buy a new disk with a full rebate every time my subscription is close to ending.
 

loshjott

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I'll echo the thanks to Coup. I followed his recommendation and installed ESET NOD32 paired with Webroot SecureAnywhere a year and a half ago when they were both on sale, and I've been very happy with their performance. They've saved my ass on several occasions. My teenage grandson blew off my offers to protect his new desktop (I had licenses to spare), and after a couple of weeks of downloading Minecraft hacks from questionable sites, he managed to render the thing all but unusable.

My experience with McAfee mirrors yours with Norton. I thought I had turned the damned thing off and uninstalled it, but they kept charging my credit card. It turned out that they had changed the expiration date on my card to something like 2030. It took serious googling and extraordinary effort to de-McAfee-ize my PC. Talk about theftware.
If I'm reading things right, Webroot SecureAnywhere is just for mobile. Is ESET NOD32 sufficient for a desktop PC or is the Webroot Antivrus also recommended?
 

Couperin47

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If I'm reading things right, Webroot SecureAnywhere is just for mobile. Is ESET NOD32 sufficient for a desktop PC or is the Webroot Antivrus also recommended?
Webroot has several varieties:

SecureAnywhere AV is cheapest and just for PCs & Macs, SA Internet Security Plus adds tablets & smart phones, SA Internet Security Complete adds online storage and other amenities that really don't even qualify as 'security av/malware' features for most. All run mostly online, you can use the 'single device' versions on anywhere up to 5 devices without them noticing/caring if you are so inclined. The basic version plays very well with ESET and Newegg regularly runs sales where it can be had for under $15/year. I like the advantages of the layered approach, ymmv.

Right now Newegg has the ESET NOD32 2 yr sub for 1 PC for $20 and
Webroot SA Internet Security Plus 1 yr sub for 3 devices for $13

That's a whopping $33 for more than one year protection for probably every device you own:
http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Dec-0-2015/YearEnd-Blowout-29/index-landing.html?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL122915&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL122915-_-EMC-122915-Index-_-Header-_-ClickHere&et_cid=23892&et_rid=213639&et_p1=&email64=Y291cEBuZS5yci5jb20=