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Greg Bedard's - Boston Sports Journal

Discussion in 'Our Errors are Mistakes: The Media Forum' started by RIFan, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. Byrdbrain

    Byrdbrain Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    You are correct, he said he can't reveal who it is due to confidentiality.
    Chad has said it won't be DuPont so that is good.
     
  2. koufax32

    koufax32 He'll cry if he wants to... SoSH Member

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    Any chance for the ITP talent to get some play there? Would love to see their work get exposed to more eyes and minds.
    I'm looking forward to hearing some feedback from some of you on this. The SSS over there so far seems like quality work.
     
  3. genivive

    genivive Member SoSH Member

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    I hope they produce apps for tablets and phones.
     
  4. Byrdbrain

    Byrdbrain Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    They are, he said on twitter iphone and andriod apps expected by the end of the week.
     
  5. Van Everyman

    Van Everyman Member SoSH Member

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    I read a few pieces this week that I thought were really good. I might take the plunge for a year at least – these are all solid writers who deserve a platform. Even if it fails it gives these guys a chance to figure out the next time for themselves and creates more quality content for the time being in a sea of hottakes.
     
  6. Saints Rest

    Saints Rest Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I'm interested to see how much content is being produced daily and weekly. The quality seems good so far, but let's see what happens on Day 2, 3, 7, 10, etc
     
  7. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    If Joey Mac is the hockey guy, I'm buying a yearly pass.

    As @thehitcat pointed out, it would be great for this venture to succeed.
     
  8. the1andonly3003

    the1andonly3003 lurker

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    according to Gordon Edes, there have been 882 subscribers already:
     
  9. willmiddlebrooks3hrgame

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    I'm very excited for this. Especially the no politics part. Hope Bedard does the Wednesday Pats column like he did at the Globe.
     
  10. jsinger121

    jsinger121 @jsinger121 SoSH Member

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    I have to think he is the guy. That gives them quality writers in each of the 4 sports if that is the case.
     
  11. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Up to 972 subscribers.
     
  12. jsinger121

    jsinger121 @jsinger121 SoSH Member

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    981 now....I just subscribed a few minutes ago.
     
  13. TFP

    TFP Dope Dope

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    That's pretty much where I'm at, I'd love to have full time Joey Mac back in action. The interesting thing to me is the increased access to the writers for subscribers. So it could have a functioning comments section where the writers actually respond, more intimate Q+A type chats, and even in person events the writers hold. Combine that with the fact that they're actual people I'd like to meet makes it very intriguing. Additionally - I want this to succeed to see if it'll become a viable model going forward, especially for this type of coverage.

    The only drawback is Bedard himself. I am not a fan of his at all, his past approaches rub me the wrong way, especially on Twitter. When he went national, he went out of his way to shit on Pats fans and the Pats themselves. Which is totally fine and no big deal - until now he's coming back as Mr. Hyper Local White Knight here to give Boston fans the best Boston coverage only. Just rubs me the wrong way for some reason, not all of it being rational.

    That said, once the hockey guy is announced, I'll likely subscribe myself.
     
  14. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    Well, Patriots fans are absurd.
     
  15. TFP

    TFP Dope Dope

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    Of course - it's not what he initially said that bothers me. It's the comeback asking for their money and pretending it never happened that rubs me the wrong way.
     
  16. TheRooster

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    I'm not sure what irked you so much. I only know that he was the best beat reporter I've seen in my 40+ years of following the Pats and reading the two local papers. His Wednesday film review columns were absolute gold.
     
  17. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    Yeah, perhaps some explanation would have been nice.
     
  18. Chad Finn

    Chad Finn Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I think some you waiting to see who the hockey writer is will be subscribing.
     
  19. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Is it a Boston-based writer or are they bringing in somebody from the outside? Is it somebody out of work or currently with another outlet?
     
  20. The Napkin

    The Napkin wise ass al kaprielian Dope SoSH Member

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    I think he was basically confirming that it's going to be Joey Mac.
     
  21. jsinger121

    jsinger121 @jsinger121 SoSH Member

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    Bedard responded to me on Twitter that some of the writers will cross over to other sports when their season is in hibernation.
     
  22. John Marzano Olympic Hero

    John Marzano Olympic Hero has fancy plans, and pants to match Dope

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    McAdam knows hockey and seems to be passionate about the game, that could be a really good thing.
     
  23. Dick Pole Upside

    Dick Pole Upside Member SoSH Member

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    delete
     
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  24. Sinistas

    Sinistas Member SoSH Member

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    That was my thinking. He's always been great discussing hockey any time he's filled in on radio.
     
  25. the1andonly3003

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    Funny, I run into Greg Bedard at Starbucks today as he meets with prospective business partners for BSJ.

    Overheard a few funny (or sad?) stories about wannabe sports journalists coming out of college who are sending him resumes.
     
  26. adam42381

    adam42381 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    1,495 subscribers now. Waiting to hear back regarding a teacher discount.
     
  27. gingerbreadmann

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    I signed up for a year pretty much blindly just on principle, and so far I'm liking the content and optimistic it will be well worth the money. They need an editor or editing system, though -- having writers publish several stories a day on their own will inevitably lead to mistakes, but I'm finding as many as 4-5 painful (at least to my eye) spelling/grammar errors in most articles.
     
  28. CallYaz

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    Signed up for 3 years and thrilled with the Pats coverage already, and they use VIMEO ... thank god! Hoping they get enough subscribers to get an app on the iPad/iphone where you could download new articles/video for long plane flights.
     
  29. BannedbyNYYFans.com

    BannedbyNYYFans.com Member SoSH Member

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    Just want to add that I subscribed for a year and I'm also thrilled with what I've seen so far. From content to layout, it's definitely meeting my expectations. I really hope this works out long term.
     
  30. tmracht

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    Yep agreed good stuff did the 3 year and really can't see much of a way this isn't worth 2 bucks a month. Especially if they keep from going hot takez!
     
  31. LogansDad

    LogansDad Member SoSH Member

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    Good news for you, their daily notes today said they iOS and Android apps to be approved in the next couple days.
     
  32. MB's Hidden Ball

    MB's Hidden Ball Member SoSH Member

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    Free subscription for active duty military personnel (although the submission function did not appear to work so I emailed directly).
     
  33. jsinger121

    jsinger121 @jsinger121 SoSH Member

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    2000 subscribers in the 1st week. Pretty impressive.
     
  34. Harry Hooper

    Harry Hooper Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    As TFP mentioned above, having the writers respond in the comments section as McAdam has been doing is an attractive feature. I hope that stays as the year goes on.
     
  35. finnVT

    finnVT Member SoSH Member

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    I'd be curious if anyone has guesses about this-- what's the number of subscribers for a site like this to work and be sustainable long term? Between 4-5 full time salaries and web hosting costs, not to mention travel, etc, I'd imagine their monthly burn rate must be pretty high, and while 2000 subscribers is undoubtedly a great start, it doesn't seem like it's even in the ballpark of supporting that.
     
  36. Rusty13

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    I think I read a goal would be something like 15,000 subscribers. I know the Pittsburgh model it's based on now has 20,000 subscribers.
     
  37. Joe Sixpack

    Joe Sixpack Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    That doesn't seem like a lot to sustain something like this. If you figure 15k subscribers and an average subscription price of $50/yr (averaging 50% at the monthly rate and 50% at the annual rate), that's $712k per year.

    Given the number of writers plus support staff plus travel expenses, that doesn't seem like it would work out very well.
     
  38. NoXInNixon

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    He's probably getting a significant amount from sponsors too.
     
  39. Harry Hooper

    Harry Hooper Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    He better as the full-rate 1-year subscription is $34.99.
     
  40. Joe Sixpack

    Joe Sixpack Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I'd forgotten about ad revenue - but I wonder how much that would be in a scenario where the ads are getting ~15k unique viewers.

    The Pittsburgh one has 40,000 subscribers. I'd have to think they are shooting for at least that.
     
  41. Rusty13

    Rusty13 Member SoSH Member

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    Wow I was way off then. 40,000 subscribers seems pretty impressive.
     
  42. 8slim

    8slim Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Not that I have any info, but I would imagine "significant" is not the right word to describe what they'll make from advertising. Internet ad revenue is a disaster at the moment unless you have enormous scale. Also not sure if they have a sales team. Absent that I would think ad sales will be done largely programmatically, which is far from lucrative.

    I hope some advertisers step up to support this, but given the marketplace I'm not optimistic.
     
  43. AlNipper49

    AlNipper49 Huge Member Dope

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    To be honest I don't know how the Pittsburgh place does it with 40k. As slim says, advertising on the internet today isn't something you base a business model on and the numbers floated this far also have missed paying an editor / editors. Without consistent editing it will die very quickly.

    Though I'm skeptical I'm rooting for them. They're all nice guys and McAdam has helped us out a number of times in the past.
     
  44. Lose Remerswaal

    Lose Remerswaal Leaves after the 8th inning Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    We don't know how much he's paying the writers. It could be a sliding scale based on subscriptions. And this won't necessarily be their only paychecks. They can still do radio and TV (and probably will, to get the word out as well) and do other writing gigs.
     
  45. Dick Pole Upside

    Dick Pole Upside Member SoSH Member

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    I thought I read somewhere that the Pittsburgh model has 11 staff writers. BSJ is about half that at the moment (including the Bruins beat guy). G. Bedard said this morning that the 2017 goal is 20k subscriptions.
     
  46. TheRooster

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    At 30k subs, they would be generating enough to pay a team of 5-7 without much ad revenue. They should be able to keep it pretty lean. I'm super impressed thus far and view this as a real alternative and threat to the Globe. The sports page has been my primary, but not exclusive, reason for keeping my Globe subscription up until now.
     
  47. JCizzle

    JCizzle Member SoSH Member

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    Oomph, that seems like an aggressive target for this year.
     
  48. Dotrat

    Dotrat Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    3,000 plus subscribers as of Saturday. Looking good for them so far.
     
  49. 8slim

    8slim Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Signed up for a year. Quality journalism of all types needs the subscription model to succeed or it's going to largely die thanks to Facebook and Google. I'm rooting for these guys.
     
  50. the1andonly3003

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    How much video content does the Pittsburgh site have?
     

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