I haven't done a collusion case or looked at the law, but, man, you want to go before a jury if Jones texts Biscotti saying "guess that boy'll be kneeling in his living room another week, good job!"
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I got a hive; took it all inhouse. I'm vertically integrated, motherfucker.
I think it's likely they refer to Kaep in an inappropriate way. This is why I'm not putting up the 50. But I would be surprised there is a record of digital collusion. That said, people have certainly done pretty dumb things with cell phones before.
Oh, I meant it as a parlay - some evidence which can lead to an inference of collusion + a slur in the discussion.
I would be curious if an owner could survive a racist message getting released.
Specific Kraft connection explained here by Kap’s lawyer:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/03/kaepernicks-legal-team-expands-search-terms-for-digital-evidence/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/03/kaepernicks-legal-team-expands-search-terms-for-digital-evidence/
If they are really searching for the word “Trump” in emails and texts on personal phones, we may soon learn a lot more about Kraft’s relationship with His Orangeness. Yikes.
Mike Evans is the only player suspended (1 game) after ejections and fighting in week 9.
Goodell must be busier hunting for ways to suspend Patriots during the bye week.
Goodell must be busier hunting for ways to suspend Patriots during the bye week.
How do you not suspend the guy for putting a player in a headlock when he had his back turned?
It's so ass backwards. The guys who get kicked out of the game don't get suspended, while the guy who didn't get kicked out does.
Kiko Alanzo not being suspended for nearly murdering Flacco after Danny Travathian got two games for the Adams hit is the most egregious example of NFL suspension random stupidity so far this year. Adams was at least still fighting for yards while Flacco had given himself up.
Of course, considering how Jarred Cook used and abused Alonzo last night, I guess I am glad he played.
Of course, considering how Jarred Cook used and abused Alonzo last night, I guess I am glad he played.
Prior actions are supposed to be considered in any potential suspension case, yet Sup's choke slam of Mallet didn't generate a suspension either.
I absolutely think that Evans should be suspended.
Green probably should be, too, but when the ref says the other guy was the instigator, the league likely takes that into account (and may know more about what was going on than we do).
As an aside, I'm unclear on whether I think Winston should be suspended for his part in the Evans thing. Coming off the sideline to fuck with a player on the other team, after you have already been benched, is pretty shady, in my opinion.
Green probably should be, too, but when the ref says the other guy was the instigator, the league likely takes that into account (and may know more about what was going on than we do).
As an aside, I'm unclear on whether I think Winston should be suspended for his part in the Evans thing. Coming off the sideline to fuck with a player on the other team, after you have already been benched, is pretty shady, in my opinion.
Flacco began his slide about 0.01 seconds before Alonso laid into him. The gamethread at the time was mixed: half the people were basically reacting to how violent a hit it was (And/or crowing about how much they hate the Ravens), but the other half, including me, were arguing "I'm not sure what Alonso is supposed to do there - Flacco was about to make the first down, only a hit would have prevented it, should he have just let him waltz to the first down?". You don't have to agree with that point of view to recognize that that play was between the whistles and was more of an ambiguous, spirit-of-the-competition kind of scenario. It's certainly distinct from, say, Suh's extracurriculars, or the fighting after the play that we saw so much of yesterday.
I agree with you on Winston. I have always felt that any player who leaves the bench area/sideline to participate in a brouhaha should be at least fined. NFL really needs to discourage that, that is how people get hurt. Of course, since this is the NFL, nothing will be done.
That's absurd, and could really care less that half the yahoos in a game thread were crowing about a violent hit -- on what planet is that significant? I guess the same planet that sees this vicious, easily avoidable hit as "spirit of the competition." But, congrats, apparently the NFL agrees with you.
Yeah. He already had a full head of steam, and had left his feet to try to stop Flacco's forward momentum before he got to the 1st down line on the 10. He led with his shoulder, not his helmet. I'm really not sure what you want Alonso to do there - just pull up and say "why yes please Mr. Flacco, go ahead and take the first down. Heck, have the touchdown if you prefer, there are no consequences!" Like, if that's dirty, maybe explain to me what the "good" defensive play looks like. From where I sat, Flacco wanted to have his cake (get the 1st down) and eat it too (have the protections of an early slide).
I've seen much dirtier hits than that, where there was no gameplay advantage to be gained or lost, just a defender out for blood. But the clearest category of them all are the plays that are after the whistle, which is what both the Ramsey and Evans plays were yesterday (and hence this sidetrack). That's where there can be no excuse for misconduct, and no room for argument by the player or the union. Suspensions for dirty hits during play are usually far less ambiguous than this.
I've seen much dirtier hits than that, where there was no gameplay advantage to be gained or lost, just a defender out for blood. But the clearest category of them all are the plays that are after the whistle, which is what both the Ramsey and Evans plays were yesterday (and hence this sidetrack). That's where there can be no excuse for misconduct, and no room for argument by the player or the union. Suspensions for dirty hits during play are usually far less ambiguous than this.
Saw someone post on FB without a link the Jets' Kerley was popped for tbol, the same substance found in UFC champion Jon Jones' blood.
All good points. After Green and Evans why is anyone even talking about Kiko? It's not like Joe is an elite QB or anything...
Texans sign Josh Johnson..... yep that one. Last took a snap 5 years ago, on which he was sacked and fumbled. Last completed a pass 6 years ago. Last started a game in which his team won... 2008 when he played for San Diego in I-AA.
Particularly amusing since when asked about Kaepernick earlier a reason O'Brien cited why he wasn't a fit was that he "hasn't played in a while"
Edit- Correction he also got a few snaps 4 years ago, but did not complete a pass.
Particularly amusing since when asked about Kaepernick earlier a reason O'Brien cited why he wasn't a fit was that he "hasn't played in a while"
Edit- Correction he also got a few snaps 4 years ago, but did not complete a pass.
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I wonder if they'll have trouble attracting free agents this off season. It would be one way for the players to push back ...
Little to no chance. Houston seems to have their QB of the future and brighter days ahead. When it comes to Colin or their own careers, it’s not going to be close at all. This is assuming Houston puts good offers out of course.
Per Francesa on WFAN in last 15 minutes, Jones has hired David Boies to sue over the Goodell extension. Defendants — NFL and individual owners including Kraft, the Rooneys, the Maras and so forth.
See https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/sports/jerry-jones-nfl-roger-goodell-david-boies.amp.html
See https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/sports/jerry-jones-nfl-roger-goodell-david-boies.amp.html
So much for Boies' reputation being damaged, though I guess Jones is one of the last people to care about ties to Harvey Weinstein.
Packers have CUT Martellus Bennett. Maybe a reunion in New England???
The Packers cut Bennett with the failure to disclose a medical condition designation. We'll see what's next for the veteran TE.
The Packers cut Bennett with the failure to disclose a medical condition designation. We'll see what's next for the veteran TE.
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The Packers cut Bennett with the failure to disclose a medical condition designation. We'll see what's next for the veteran TE.
May not be healthy
The Packers cut Bennett with the failure to disclose a medical condition designation. We'll see what's next for the veteran TE.
May not be healthy
His reputation for integrity has certainly been damaged, his NYT obit is going to be a doozie, but has his reputation for winning been hurt? Some folks will say holy shit he hired the fucking mossad for his clients; he's not just a lands end wearing law nerd.
That's exactly my point. Some people would care about the association; others just want to win. Jerry wants to win.
His arm could be amputated and he'd still be a better option than the Patriots current TE2.
Sign 'im!
The Pats will be lucky to control this. Bennett’s base salary is 900k, which means his hit for someone to sign this year is just 450k. He will probably get claimed. WEEI and others are saying the team that claims Bennett will owe him $4 million in dead money next season, but I think that’s wrong. All his guaranteed money was a signing bonus and the Packers should be taking it.
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