2017 General NFL Transactions and News

[Norm loves Vera]

Seeing various reports on Twitter that Goodell is close to signing a contract extension thru 2024, and past next CBA negotiation. Posting a retweet by Kravitz of Shefter's earlier tweet with the news.. Of course Kravitz pokes the bear..

Bob Kravitz‏Verified account @bkravitz 6m6 minutes ago


Bob Kravitz Retweeted Adam Schefter

New England rejoices.


Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is close to getting a new 5-year extension through 2024, per @dkaplanSBJ.
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[Valek123]

Damn right we rejoice, he can suspend Brady every year for 4 games(keep him fresh) for all I care as that seems to directly lead to Lombardis.

 

[mwonow]

Seeing various reports on Twitter that Goodell is close to signing a contract extension thru 2024, and past next CBA negotiation. Posting a retweet by Kravitz of Shefter's earlier tweet with the news.. Of course Kravitz pokes the bear..

Bob Kravitz‏Verified account @bkravitz 6m6 minutes ago


Bob Kravitz Retweeted Adam Schefter

New England rejoices.


Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is close to getting a new 5-year extension through 2024, per @dkaplanSBJ.
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I know "Jetsy" is a thing here. Would Kravitz's belief that referencing NE is kinda clever and/or that anyone in NE cares what he thinks be "Coltsy?" As in, "there's Kravitz being Coltsy again?" Or is Coltsy more a term to refer to a (potentially narcotics-induced) fog?

 

[PedroKsBambino]

Daniel Kaplan has reported that the NFL delegated authority for Goodell's next contract to the six owners on the Compensation Committee. Does anyone know who is currently on that committee?

I know Kraft has been in past, and Kaplan stated that Jerry Jones is not on it.

 

[DanoooME]

Daniel Kaplan has reported that the NFL delegated authority for Goodell's next contract to the six owners on the Compensation Committee. Does anyone know who is currently on that committee?

I know Kraft has been in past, and Kaplan stated that Jerry Jones is not on it.

My Google Fu says that as of last year, the committee members are:

Arthur Blank (Falcons) - chair
Clark Hunt (Chiefs)
Kraft
Bob McNair (Texans)
John Mara (Giants)
Art Rooney II (Steelers)

 

[soxfan121]

My Google Fu says that as of last year, the committee members are:

Arthur Blank (Falcons) - chair
Clark Hunt (Chiefs)
Kraft
Bob McNair (Texans)
John Mara (Giants)
Art Rooney II (Steelers)

This should, but will not, dispel the notion that Kraft isn't 100% a League Man. And that's ok. Bob had to say one thing publicly in order to keep the consumers of the product happy, while simultaneously he was giving out a lucrative contract extension to the Ginger Hammer. Kraft is no dummy. Bob knows Roger is the right weasel for the commissioner job because Goodell is excellent at his job: PR flunkie for the cartel that profits off concussions.

Heck, if I were an NFL owner and could rake in billions of dollars in generational wealth every goddamned season, I'd tell my "fans" whatever they needed to hear while giving Roger a handjob and a couple million dollar bonus. Then I'd console myself by remembering that my grandkid's grandkids grandkids are gonna be rich as fuck because I support Roger (and not rocking the billion dollar boat).

 

[bradmahn]

This should, but will not, dispel the notion that Kraft isn't 100% a League Man. And that's ok. Bob had to say one thing publicly in order to keep the consumers of the product happy, while simultaneously he was giving out a lucrative contract extension to the Ginger Hammer. Kraft is no dummy. Bob knows Roger is the right weasel for the commissioner job because Goodell is excellent at his job: PR flunkie for the cartel that profits off concussions.

Heck, if I were an NFL owner and could rake in billions of dollars in generational wealth every goddamned season, I'd tell my "fans" whatever they needed to hear while giving Roger a handjob and a couple million dollar bonus. Then I'd console myself by remembering that my grandkid's grandkids grandkids are gonna be rich as fuck because I support Roger (and not rocking the billion dollar boat).

That take is so hot. Do you 1) know that list is current, 2) know any compensation must be unanimously approved by the committee, or 3) know Kraft voted in favor of extending the Hammer?

 

[dcmissle]

It's the smart move for Bob; obviously, the Pats have to meet Ceasar's wife standard, because I think they are still out to get them.

Bawb has more immediate problems, if not here then certainly in V and N:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/21/robert-kraft-gives-donald-trump-a-super-bowl-ring/#comments

Preemptively, I wouldn't care if he gave Trump 5 rings.

 

[Freddy Linn]

Beckham walks off after getting hit kinda low, is in the bowels of the stadium rolling around a bit.

 

[soxfan121]

That take is so hot. Do you 1) know that list is current, 2) know any compensation must be unanimously approved by the committee, or 3) know Kraft voted in favor of extending the Hammer?

Yeah, that makes total sense. He isn't on the committee, and if he was on the committee he was the dissenting voice, and he definitely voted no but the other dastardly owners overruled him again.

 

[tims4wins]

The outcry over the Beckham hit is so dumb. No one outside of Pats fans were upset when TJ Ward did that to Gronk in 2012

 

[RedOctober3829]

The outcry over the Beckham hit is so dumb. No one outside of Pats fans were upset when TJ Ward did that to Gronk in 2012

I think he played it up for the cameras once he reached the locker room. He walked off the field by himself, went all the way down the tunnel, then just collapses? Then after the game he runs back to the locker room. Something is strange about him I'll tell you that.

 

[PaulinMyrBch]

The outcry over the Beckham hit is so dumb. No one outside of Pats fans were upset when TJ Ward did that to Gronk in 2012

I've been consistent on this. The TJ Ward defense was how else am I supposed to bring him down. With Gronk running at you, I can see that even though I don't like the shot to the knee. Last night was a perfect example of a potential tackle where you didn't need to go high or low to bring him down. He's stretched out and his entire body was exposed for a wrap up hit. Tons of room to bring him down without potentially ending his season. I don't know if you can make rules to cover this, but a preseason game helmet/shoulder aimed at his knee isn't cool.

 

[Hendu for Kutch]

I think he played it up for the cameras once he reached the locker room. He walked off the field by himself, went all the way down the tunnel, then just collapses? Then after the game he runs back to the locker room. Something is strange about him I'll tell you that.

Ya, that whole things was weird. He also went down and stayed in a position that doesn't really take much pressure off the ankle. It felt like a total for the cameras moment.

 

[tims4wins]

I've been consistent on this. The TJ Ward defense was how else am I supposed to bring him down. With Gronk running at you, I can see that even though I don't like the shot to the knee. Last night was a perfect example of a potential tackle where you didn't need to go high or low to bring him down. He's stretched out and his entire body was exposed for a wrap up hit. Tons of room to bring him down without potentially ending his season. I don't know if you can make rules to cover this, but a preseason game helmet/shoulder aimed at his knee isn't cool.

Doesn't seem like he was targeting the knee. He hit him in the thigh. And the defender also appeared to have been tripping / falling.

 

[bakahump]

I still dont buy it.

There must be at least 20 guys who are potentially as good or better then Goodell that people in the know could name right now.

The guy is a moron. The NFL (and each team) would be (as) profitable with my dog or worse yet myself as the commish.
Name one thing Goddell does well? Take Blame? Is that truly a skill?
Now tell me the things he does badly. (Wavers, has a temper, doesnt handle the press particularly well, doesnt seem to be a very good negotiator as evidence by his belief he has all the power, etc etc)
Now consider the resources the NFL has to find someone who has with more in the Credit column and less in the Debit column.

 

[Bowhemian]

Doesn't seem like he was targeting the knee. He hit him in the thigh. And the defender also appeared to have been tripping / falling.

I am no OBJ fan, but I don't see how you can draw that conclusion. His shoulder hit him square on the knee.

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

I still dont buy it.

There must be at least 20 guys who are potentially as good or better then Goodell that people in the know could name right now.

The guy is a moron. The NFL (and each team) would be (as) profitable with my dog or worse yet myself as the commish.
Name one thing Goddell does well? Take Blame? Is that truly a skill?
Now tell me the things he does badly. (Wavers, has a temper, doesnt handle the press particularly well, doesnt seem to be a very good negotiator as evidence by his belief he has all the power, etc etc)
Now consider the resources the NFL has to find someone who has with more in the Credit column and less in the Debit column.

Stern to Silver is a decent enough analogy. The former was good at generating profit too, but replacing him with Silver has pretty much done away with the perception problem that once plagued the NBA offices (and still plagues the NFL, obviously).

 

[tims4wins]

I am no OBJ fan, but I don't see how you can draw that conclusion. His shoulder hit him square on the knee.

Yeah I was mostly looking at where his helmet made contact

 

[soxfan121]

I still dont buy it.

There must be at least 20 guys who are potentially as good or better then Goodell that people in the know could name right now.

The guy is a moron. The NFL (and each team) would be (as) profitable with my dog or worse yet myself as the commish.
Name one thing Goddell does well? Take Blame? Is that truly a skill?
Now tell me the things he does badly. (Wavers, has a temper, doesnt handle the press particularly well, doesnt seem to be a very good negotiator as evidence by his belief he has all the power, etc etc)
Now consider the resources the NFL has to find someone who has with more in the Credit column and less in the Debit column.

He has kept everyone from talking about concussions. He helped clear the field for the concussion lawsuit settlement. And he won (in court) the right for owners (i.e. his bosses) to do whatever the hell they want to a player if a player fucks up in any way off the field.

That's like twenty billion dollars over replacement commissioner.

 

[BigSoxFan]

He has kept everyone from talking about concussions. He helped clear the field for the concussion lawsuit settlement. And he won (in court) the right for owners (i.e. his bosses) to do whatever the hell they want to a player if a player fucks up in any way off the field.

That's like twenty billion dollars over replacement commissioner.

He needed owners like Kraft to bail him out in 2011 to avoid a work stoppage and we appear on a collision course for one in 2021, in large part because of his actions (on behalf of the owners).

 

[Old Fart Tree]

I think he played it up for the cameras once he reached the locker room. He walked off the field by himself, went all the way down the tunnel, then just collapses? Then after the game he runs back to the locker room. Something is strange about him I'll tell you that.

I hate to say it, but I had the same reaction. I thought he was playing it up for the cameras. He's a fantastically talented WR who would make any team better, and a total diva who is I think driven to maximize the attention he gets. No hot take 'durr that's not how you play foobaw' from me, just a recognition that the guy likes to cast himself as the star in an epic drama.

 

[TomTerrific]

He needed owners like Kraft to bail him out in 2011 to avoid a work stoppage and we appear on a collision course for one in 2021, in large part because of his actions (on behalf of the owners).

I think the missing unspoken element that cements the deal is that he has demonstrated that he is utterly uninterested in "the best interests of football", but is there to act as a shield for the owners.

That's why they don't want to get someone who could possibly be smarter in how he does things (say, a Paul Tagliabue), but who might also actually take his role seriously and do things the owners might not like.

 

[PaulinMyrBch]

Doesn't seem like he was targeting the knee. He hit him in the thigh. And the defender also appeared to have been tripping / falling.

The acceleration from the left foot kicks up a divot. He was going low hard.

 

[PC Drunken Friar]

The acceleration from the left foot kicks up a divot. He was going low hard.

Or... He slipped

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[TomTerrific]

nm double post

 

[Lose Remerswaal]

nm double post

Oh?

 

[dcmissle]

He needed owners like Kraft to bail him out in 2011 to avoid a work stoppage and we appear on a collision course for one in 2021, in large part because of his actions (on behalf of the owners).

There is no way in hell Goodell was over his skis in the last labor negotiation. He did exactly what the owners wanted and absorbed the bad publicity. For every "dove" like Kraft who wanted a deal, there was another owner -- e.g., Richardson (a former player) -- who wanted to nuke the union.

Relatedly, interesting theory offered by Winston on why fans largely side with the owners rather than the players --

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20419408/eric-winston-nflpa-president-says-care-nfl-dies-20-years-work-stoppage

 

[soxfan121]

I hope Winston isn't posturing, but he probably is. That is just about the only threat the owners fear and players now have to be willing to not cross the line if the union is going to get anything useful out of these next negotiations.

 

[BigSoxFan]

There is no way in hell Goodell was over his skis in the last labor negotiation. He did exactly what the owners wanted and absorbed the bad publicity. For every "dove" like Kraft who wanted a deal, there was another owner -- e.g., Richardson (a former player) -- who wanted to nuke the union.

Relatedly, interesting theory offered by Winston on why fans largely side with the owners rather than the players --

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20419408/eric-winston-nflpa-president-says-care-nfl-dies-20-years-work-stoppage

We will see in 2021 just how skilled he is. The atmosphere then is going to be far more toxic than it was in 2011.

Interesting article there though. End of the day, players will cave because the alternative for the overwhelming majority is far worse than taking whatever deal the owners will give them.

 

[Otis Foster]

Interesting article there though. End of the day, players will cave because the alternative for the overwhelming majority is far worse than taking whatever deal the owners will give them.

That's the problem. First, despite ostensible attempts to teach these people some financial literacy, a great number have no nest egg and can't go more than a few months without feeling the tug from friends, family, hangers-on, etc. Furthermore, even the dimmest of them realizes that he has a very short shelf life, and if too much time goes by, it's irretrievable.

They're just not built for the long game in labor negotiations.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

Yes, that's always the challenge in the NFL labor-wise.

The lever the NFLPA could use more effectively is building a larger strike fund to make it easier to get rank-and-file guys to stay in line during a strike. But they have somewhat the same problem getting guys to contribute to build that fund as they do asking them to strike---so they'd need to have it accumulate over many years, and likely also get some high-dollar guys to kick in. I'm not even sure what the rules are around that at this point, frankly....but it's the best way to increase their credibility around maintaining a strike for material part of the season.

 

[axx]

The one thing to watch I think is the TV contracts (which conveniently expire in 2022 for most of the networks although ESPN's expires in 2021). Figure regardless of ratings the TV deals will be far less. I'm sure they are mad about the player conduct policy, but they aren't striking over that. But a much smaller cap?

 

[RedOctober3829]

Per Twitter, KC has lost Spencer Ware for the season with a torn PCL. Kareem Hunt is now the starter.

 

[Ale Xander]

Per Twitter, KC has lost Spencer Ware for the season with a torn PCL. Kareem Hunt is now the starter.

DJ Foster for a backup DL?

 

[BigSoxFan]

Cameron Meredith with a pretty gruesome torn ACL. Yay, preseason football.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Vontaze Burfict is facing a 5 game suspension for a hit on a KC player in the preseason.

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

DJ Foster for a backup DL?

This is nice idea. Given our depth at that position, I would love to find a way for BB and clock management-challenged Craig Stadler stand-in to make one more trade.

 

[Rudy's Curve]

Vontaze Burfict is facing a 5 game suspension for a hit on a KC player in the preseason.

345 Park needs to be fucking nuked.

 

[PC Drunken Friar]

345 Park needs to be fucking nuked.

Why? Have you seen the hit? He leads with his head, hits Sherman in the head, Sherman is a defenseless receiver... Who isn't even going to be the intended receiver.

Unless you are suggesting that the suspension isn't enough... Then I apologize for misreading your post.


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[Dotrat]

The Jets claimed Ealy.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jets-reportedly-claim-kony-ealy-one-day-after-patriots-dump-him/

 

[singaporesoxfan]

Why? Have you seen the hit? He leads with his head, hits Sherman in the head, Sherman is a defenseless receiver... Who isn't even going to be the intended receiver.

Nobody's Burfict.

 

[Rudy's Curve]

Why? Have you seen the hit? He leads with his head, hits Sherman in the head, Sherman is a defenseless receiver... Who isn't even going to be the intended receiver.

Unless you are suggesting that the suspension isn't enough... Then I apologize for misreading your post.

He completely leads with his shoulder and it's debatable at best whether he hits him in the neck area - he certainly doesn't hit him in the head. This hit has gone on since the beginning of time but hey, it's Burfict and everyone's looking for scorching hot takes.

(he meant play here)
@JosinaAnderson 3h3 hours ago
Texts this am on V. Burfict facing 5G susp: "Anytime u have to slow down play to see if (it's illegal) maybe not how game should be judged."

The league is picking at a low-hanging player and franchise just because they can. It's ridiculous and embarrassing. And the fact that Jon fucking Runyan, one of the dirtiest players of his era is the one meting out justice now is the cherry on top.

 

[tims4wins]

The pass had already been released. Seems like Burfict knew Sherman was not the intended receiver but that isn't 100% clear. At best it is a penalty for Pass Interference and probably for hitting a defenseless receiver.

 

[Rudy's Curve]

The pass had already been released. Seems like Burfict knew Sherman was not the intended receiver but that isn't 100% clear. At best it is a penalty for Pass Interference and probably for hitting a defenseless receiver.

Mosher and Mosqueda did a pretty good job of outlining it and a number of other neutral observers have come to Burfict's defense. This is a farce.

 

[Stitch01]

Typical arbitrary but severe NFL justice.

NFL front office for sure needs to be nuked from orbit.

That said, Burfict is a dirty player who should have been suspended at least once already so can't say Im super unhappy to see him catch the random league office overreaction.

 

[Rudy's Curve]

That said, Burfict is a dirty player who should have been suspended at least once already so can't say Im super unhappy to see him catch the random league office overreaction.

He already drew the largest suspension for on-field conduct since Haynesworth stomped on Andre Gurode's face 11 years ago. Now it's the second-largest. What else do you want?

 

[InstaFace]

Burfict would be one of the last players in the NFL I'd defend, but I wouldn't call the hit there dirty at all. It initially looked to me like he delivered his shoulder to a (defenseless) Sherman's face, but after watching a few times I think he does go low so that it's shoulder-to-shoulder.


You could call it DPI, give them the 3 yards and a first down, and I'd have no argument. You could maybe even make an argument that that's a 15 yard PF, if you overreacted based on the fact that Sherman was knocked on his ass. But he wasn't head-hunting and he wasn't even running at the guy, just interposing himself. In no universe is that suspension-worthy.

 

[tims4wins]

Burfict would be one of the last players in the NFL I'd defend, but I wouldn't call the hit there dirty at all. It initially looked to me like he delivered his shoulder to a (defenseless) Sherman's face, but after watching a few times I think he does go low so that it's shoulder-to-shoulder.


You could call it DPI, give them the 3 yards and a first down, and I'd have no argument. You could maybe even make an argument that that's a 15 yard PF, if you overreacted based on the fact that Sherman was knocked on his ass. But he wasn't head-hunting and he wasn't even running at the guy, just interposing himself. In no universe is that suspension-worthy.

Right this is basically where I am. It was a penalty, but not suspension worthy.

 

[Pandemonium67]

If 345 Park gets nuked, I hope it happens while Burfict is there appealing.