Gammons speculates that Sox might acquire Asdrubal Cabrera

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For those unable to read it, it's s Gammons tweet


"Mets will give Red Spx Astrubal Cabera. SH, 3B-2B, 9 HR, hits LHP"

His typo not mine
 

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Yeah, Peter Gammons isn't breaking trade news, he's speculating. The guy isn't a reporter anymore and it seems like anything he tweets that seems like reporting is him quoting others. He's not going to be the first on any news.
 

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No confirmation of this anywhere. After seeing the Yanks trade for Frazer... I have a sneaking suspicion we're going to see some sort of DDom blockbuster and we might be saying goodbye to Benintendi
 

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No confirmation of this anywhere. After seeing the Yanks trade for Frazer... I have a sneaking suspicion we're going to see some sort of DDom blockbuster and we might be saying goodbye to Benintendi
I'll only be on board with it if he throws in ERod and Devers.
 

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Cabrera for a lower-tier prospect would be acceptable, right?
 

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I'm withholding judgment on this deal until we get some leaks from Gammo on whether he hits LHP or RHP
 

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No confirmation of this anywhere. After seeing the Yanks trade for Frazer... I have a sneaking suspicion we're going to see some sort of DDom blockbuster and we might be saying goodbye to Benintendi
Wait, what?
 

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I can't see the Redsox trading Benintendi or making a blockbuster, but if they did, Benintendi would be the easiest guy to replace. They already have Young with Brentz and Lin in Pawtucket. Michael Chavis will probably be moved off 3b sooner or later and has the athleticism and arm strength to play the OF. Benintendi would also probably bring more back than JBJ.

Doesn't make your claim any less valid, but if the Sox did pull off a blockbuster... Ben10 would be the guy moved and coming back would be a bat better than anyone else we have in the lineup.

Again, I can't see this happening and it would probably just leave a hole in LF because there's a good chance Brentz and Lin would fail. Plus if you were actually willing to try Lin in LF, they'd have tried him longer at 3b. Sorta like Lin (Lin made adjustments preseason), Brentz made an adjustment to his swing by adding a toe tap on 5/23. In the 47 games since he is slashing .337/.417/.709 on a .350 BAbip , 23bb/36k, with 31 xbh (16HRs) and 28 singles in 199 PA. He's also 28 years old and in his 5th (6 if you include 2012) in AAA so meh. Prior to the change, he was hitting .167/.222/.287 on a .187 BAbip with 8bb/30k in 117 PA.
 

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Forgot to add they also have Rusney Castillo in the OF who has been hitting well but also has that poison pill of a contract. Over his last 168 PA, he's hitting .333/.375/.532 on a .341 BAbip with 10 doubles and 7 HRs. He's currently on the 7 day DL with knee tendinitis though.
 

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The wrong side of the bridge....
Doesn't make your claim any less valid, but if the Sox did pull off a blockbuster... Ben10 would be the guy moved and coming back would be a bat better than anyone else we have in the lineup.
I agree, but probably the most likely scenario for that went off the board yesterday when Martinez went to the D'backs, since as you point out, the Sox don't have any credible MLB-ready OF depth beyond Brentz, and even though Brentz is having a nice little year, I seriously doubt DD would consider trading Benintendi and then handing the job to Brentz for the stretch run. The return for Benintendi would have to be spectacular for that to make sense.
 

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Cabrera has been awful this year. I'd rather stick with Lin/Marrero than give up anything of even marginal value for him.
 

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Cabrera has been awful this year. I'd rather stick with Lin/Marrero than give up anything of even marginal value for him.
Describe awful. He's hitting .247/333/.401 on the year with a BAbip of .263. 28bb/40k in 279 PA. Over his last 87 PA, he's hitting .267/.368/.507 on a miserable .246 BAbip. But he has 5 HRs, 3 doubles, 11bb/9k during that stretch. Strikes me as a guy who has just been really unlucky this year. His LD% is at a career high 25%. His k% is close to his career low while his BB rate is close to a career high. If he comes with a small price tag, sign me up.
 

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Describe awful. He's hitting .247/333/.401 on the year with a BAbip of .263. 28bb/40k in 279 PA. Over his last 87 PA, he's hitting .267/.368/.507 on a miserable .246 BAbip. But he has 5 HRs, 3 doubles, 11bb/9k during that stretch. Strikes me as a guy who has just been really unlucky this year. His LD% is at a career high 25%. His k% is close to his career low while his BB rate is close to a career high. If he comes with a small price tag, sign me up.
Whats his alleged role? He's played 1 game at 3B in his career.
 

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Whats his alleged role? He's played 1 game at 3B in his career.
He'd play 3b despite that. The Sox don't seem to have much reservation in trying guys at new positions with very little experience. And by small price tag, I mean someone like Lorenzo Cedrola.
 

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That place is such a dumpster fire that I'm sure he'd willingly be a back up catcher in Boston to get away from Terry Collins
 

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He had said he'd move to 3B if the Mets picked up his option for next year. That seems weird, I'd expect he'd *not* want his option to be picked up. It's for 8.5 mil with a 2 million buyout. He was a 2.7 WAR guy last year and has never had a year with a WAR less than 1, he doesn't think he could get 6.5 mil on the open market?
 

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I can't see the Redsox trading Benintendi or making a blockbuster, but if they did, Benintendi would be the easiest guy to replace. They already have Young with Brentz and Lin in Pawtucket. Michael Chavis will probably be moved off 3b sooner or later and has the athleticism and arm strength to play the OF. Benintendi would also probably bring more back than JBJ.

Doesn't make your claim any less valid, but if the Sox did pull off a blockbuster... Ben10 would be the guy moved and coming back would be a bat better than anyone else we have in the lineup..
IDK, from the blockbuster standpoint you also have to factor in that Ben10 is still the one guy on your table that has the most cost controlled time left, which is going to be pretty valuable in itself the next couple of year when we are budgeting together our annual rosters.

If anything and if DD woke up today with a bug in his butt to massively shake up what he viewed as being a flawed overall build core, my guess would be that you start from the back. Which is probably taking a hard look at Xander. Who all wishful hometown discount extension stuff aside...is a little over 2 years away from likely seeing the Jason Heyward treatment in free agency as a 27yo premium position player. Something I honestly can't see myself buying in to when that time comes. From there I also probably ultimately end up seeing Bradley as being more expendable then Ben10 in the right deal and aftermath setup.

I still see the most obvious potential "fix" being a Moustakas signing in free agency (pending what he does the rest of this year), but in fantasyland where we are talking about Machado the first possibility that came to my mind was honestly a straight up Xander for Machado swap. They get the extra year of control on a great overall player, where as we are left buying in that Machado's early struggles this year are nothing and that he'll spend the next 1.5 anchoring the lineup a lot better then Xander would. DD turns around to still make the lesser trade on one of the budget infielder types he's already looking at now to fill the hole at SS (unless he's really sold that Lin is for real I guess), and stays the patient course with Devers. The very latter of which gets a shot next spring to get his feet wet in the majors at 1B, and then shifts back a year latter when we let Machado walk as FA.

Or something more along those lines.
 

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IDK, from the blockbuster standpoint you also have to factor in that Ben10 is still the one guy on your table that has the most cost controlled time left, which is going to be pretty valuable in itself the next couple of year when we are budgeting together our annual rosters.

If anything and if DD woke up today with a bug in his butt to massively shake up what he viewed as being a flawed overall build core, my guess would be that you start from the back. Which is probably taking a hard look at Xander. Who all wishful hometown discount extension stuff aside...is a little over 2 years away from likely seeing the Jason Heyward treatment in free agency as a 27yo premium position player. Something I honestly can't see myself buying in to when that time comes. From there I also probably ultimately end up seeing Bradley as being more expendable then Ben10 in the right deal and aftermath setup.

I still see the most obvious potential "fix" being a Moustakas signing in free agency (pending what he does the rest of this year), but in fantasyland where we are talking about Machado the first possibility that came to my mind was honestly a straight up Xander for Machado swap. They get the extra year of control on a great overall player, where as we are left buying in that Machado's early struggles this year are nothing and that he'll spend the next 1.5 anchoring the lineup a lot better then Xander would. DD turns around to still make the lesser trade on one of the budget infielder types he's already looking at now to fill the hole at SS (unless he's really sold that Lin is for real I guess), and stays the patient course with Devers. The very latter of which gets a shot next spring to get his feet wet in the majors at 1B, and then shifts back a year latter when we let Machado walk as FA.

Or something more along those lines.
The next poster that predicts a trade involving any of the "Bs" should get a warning and then a time out even for bitching back. Define "Bs" as Betts, Benintendi, Bradley and Bogaerts.
 

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If Trout is rounding 2nd and heading to 3rd on a short ball to LF maybe they'll be close.
Nice try but to address the OP's question, Boagaerts and Benintendi might get *us* close to Trout if they invited him to join a SoSH thread or group chat where we could ask him questions and tell him how awesome he is.

As a side note, the only person who can turn those two into Mike Trout is Danny Ainge and he is busy secretly trading "assets" for a star player whose name rhymes with Smanthony Shmavis.
 

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I don't see the point of trading Betts and Benintendi for Trout even if it were possible. Back of the envelope, Trout's good for 9 or 10 WAR, and Betts and Benintendi are good for about 3 and 6. So it's roughly a wash. But Betts and Benintendi are younger players with more team control, so they'll produce more surplus value. Trout's being paid about 15 million per year, Betts and Benintendi are being paid a half million each.
 

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I'm sorry.... the phrase you're looking for is "divinely inspired poster", thank you.
But seriously..... I'm supposed to submit a long thought out, research paper in a thread that has "speculation" in it's title... on a chat board full of nothing but obsessed speculators? Perhaps you're an awesome mind blowing poster that soars high above the 99.9% of all posts on this site that are nothing but speculative.... but I've definitely never seen it... and could care less if you were, and I'm surely never going to make some stink about it when you (like your brilliant "Not Very Good Poster" here, for instance) make those posts.

But yes... I'm fearing that Dombrowski will be trying to address the lack of power by a spectacular deal and the most valuable player the Sox have to offer is Benintendi. He also plays the least difficult position so I can see a very real possibility where he could try to bring in someone with poor defense that would be a overall upgrade to the team to replace Benintendi and keeping the status quo at 3rd until Devers comes up.
 

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re - the potential for a DD "blockbuster" to acquire a bat that would truly be a difference-maker, the two most obvious candidates I see that might actually be available would be Stanton and Miggy. But of course the reason why they might be available is because of their crippling contractual obligations. the plus side is that because of their contracts, the acquisition cost might not be as high as it would be otherwise for that level of talent, so we might not even have to give up one of the B's. But the long-term luxury tax implications would seem to be so severe and punishing so as to preclude taking on another mega-salary.

So I really don't think there's much chance of a "blockbuster," unless they are willing to take the big hits of both money and draft picks on the LT.
 

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I'm sorry.... the phrase you're looking for is "divinely inspired poster", thank you.
But seriously..... I'm supposed to submit a long thought out, research paper in a thread that has "speculation" in it's title... on a chat board full of nothing but obsessed speculators?
You calling this a chat board is illuminating. It explains your posting history.

Aside from that, this thread is for speculation about acquiring Asdrubal Cabrera. Unless you think Benintendi is going to be part of that transaction, it was pointless to bring him up. We already have a Dombrowksi Trade Deadline thread, started by none other than you, no less. Go post your diarrhea over there.