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Discussion in '2018 Winter Olympics' started by jcd0805, Feb 8, 2018.

  1. jcd0805

    jcd0805 Member SoSH Member

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    I love figure skating and our top male skater is about to skate for the team, is no one else watching? Doesn’t fratboy normally provide a ton of insight?? Where are my fellow skating lovers?
     
  2. InsideTheParker

    InsideTheParker Member SoSH Member

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    I am watching. Looking forward to the Quad King at 9:01.
     
  3. jcd0805

    jcd0805 Member SoSH Member

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    Absolutely! So far nerves seem to be getting to a few.
     
  4. jcd0805

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  5. InsideTheParker

    InsideTheParker Member SoSH Member

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    Here's my analysis: I am really pissed that NBC skipped the Israeli to show me Chen's teachers. The expectations of Chen were so high. Did anyone see the Israeli coming?
     
  6. jcd0805

    jcd0805 Member SoSH Member

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    Apparently not or they’d probably have not given his spot to the mean ballet teacher.
     
  7. BernieRicoBoomer

    BernieRicoBoomer Member SoSH Member

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    Is there something wrong with the ice?
     
  8. Ed Hillel

    Ed Hillel Wants to be startin somethin SoSH Member

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    It’s slippery.
     
  9. jcd0805

    jcd0805 Member SoSH Member

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    This kid is only 18, I think he snaps back just fine.
     
  10. InsideTheParker

    InsideTheParker Member SoSH Member

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    I would like it if someone posted here just when Olympic skating will be on my TV. Apparently tonight is just part one?
     
  11. Snodgrass'Muff

    Snodgrass'Muff oppresses WARmongers SoSH Member

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    My wife asked the same thing. That was a ton of skaters falling and stumbling. Could be nerves, but I wouldn't be shocked to learn that something was up with the ice.
     
  12. drleather2001

    drleather2001 given himself a skunk spot SoSH Member

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    Edit sorry. Wrong thread
     
  13. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    Saturday prime time (8-11) is part 2 for team event.

    Will post rest once Duke UNC is over.
     
  14. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    You're lucky, one of the few sports live in prime time
    Saturday 2/10 Team Part 2, 8-11 PM
    Sunday 2/11, Team Final 7-11PM ET
    2/13, Pairs Short 8-11:30 PM
    2/14, Pairs Long 8-11:30
    2/15, Men's Short 8-11:30
    2/16, Men's Long 8-12
    2/18 Ice Dance Short 7-12
    2/19 Ice Dance Long 8-11:30
    2/20 Ladies Short 8-12:30
    2/22 Ladies Long 8-12
    2/24 Gala 8-11
     
  15. jcd0805

    jcd0805 Member SoSH Member

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    So part 2 of team skating is Saturday then the final team snare is Sunday?
     
  16. InsideTheParker

    InsideTheParker Member SoSH Member

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    Thanks for the schedule. What does the team country mean here? These folks don't really seem to be from Israel.
     
  17. amh03

    amh03 Tippi Hedren Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    We were wondering if something was wrong with the ice too, with all the falls. Maybe first night jitters...but seemed to be a lot.

    Still, some great skating!
     
  18. jcd0805

    jcd0805 Member SoSH Member

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    I think usually you have to have a connection like a parent born there or something in order to compete for that country, not sure if that’s the case for that team or not.
     
  19. jcd0805

    jcd0805 Member SoSH Member

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    This Chinese lady skater has the most perfect legs for this.
     
  20. jcd0805

    jcd0805 Member SoSH Member

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    Johnny “I just wear sparkly blazers” lololol
     
  21. SidelineCameras

    SidelineCameras Member SoSH Member

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    I forgot all about this team event, new in 2014. At first I thought it seemed a little cheap, like a warm-up. But after watching Chen and so many others spill all over the place last night, I am thankful that they get it. Hopefully Chen got the jitters out of his system.
     
  22. InsideTheParker

    InsideTheParker Member SoSH Member

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    https://www.marketwatch.com/video/o...mps/666BD1F2-0AB0-417B-846C-B45354AD4EE5.html

    The above is a video showing the various jumps and how one differs from the other. Unless I misunderstand, you can do a "quad" in a variety of jumps, so long as you do four turns, which is really hard.

    This article, which is so long that I haven't read it all, seems to do a very good job explaining current figure skating, with lots of examples: https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/2/8/16919618/winter-olympics-2018-skating-jumps
     
  23. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    If your mother or both maternal grandparents are Jewish, (and make Aliyah, I suppose) you can compete for team Israel.
     
  24. metaprosthesis

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  25. Deathofthebambino

    Deathofthebambino Drive Carefully SoSH Member

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    I think the girl on the Korean ice dance team just had a wardrobe malfunction during the "twizzle" sequence. Not sure if anything popped out, but it totally messed her up during the spin, as she came to a stop to fix it.
     
  26. johnmd20

    johnmd20 literally like ebola Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Her top's clasp snapped off on the back of her neck. Nothing popped out and she had a nude colored shell under it anyway, but it definitely screwed up the performance.
     
  27. SeoulSoxFan

    SeoulSoxFan Dope Dope

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    The women figure gold favorite, Evgenia Medvedeva is apparently a huge K-pop fan, EXO & BTS especially:



    She said she's been looking forward to coming to Korea and hopefully get to meet her idols.

    This morning (KR time), she set a new WR in the short program/team event with 81.06, 0.21 higher than her own previous WR of 80.85.
     
  28. Deathofthebambino

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    I don't know who K-pop, EXO or BTS are, but I do like her.
     
  29. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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  30. BigMike

    BigMike Dope Dope

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    I do know what K-pop is, but with you on the rest. I am now a big fan, And she has to win a gold just so we can see what she might plan for the end of Olympics Skating exhibition

     
  31. Deathofthebambino

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    WTF? The American guy, Rippon, just killed his free skate, and he ends up in second behind the Russian dude that literally fell down twice? Like I said, I just don't get figure skating scoring.
     
  32. Deathofthebambino

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    The Canadian dude just fell three times, and he's not done yet. My 9 year old is beside himself that the Russian is ahead of the American after falling twice. I told him it has something to do with difficulty and stuff. I have no idea. My son said "Well, why don't I just go out there and try the hardest tricks in the world over and over again and fall down and then I'll win?"

    I didn't have an answer for that.
     
  33. Couperin47

    Couperin47 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    If it requires 'judges' we need to stop pretending it's a 'sport'.
     
  34. Deathofthebambino

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    I don't get it. Patrick Chen lands on his ass on the triple axle, while Rippon nailed two, maybe 3, of them. Chen's score blows him out of the water. I really hate this sport every four years.
     
  35. Deathofthebambino

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    Japanese guy just fucked up his first jump. He'll probably win.
     
  36. Catcher Block

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    A quick Google says the current system was put in place to make things more objective.

    I don't think that means what they think it means.
     
  37. Deathofthebambino

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    I guess maybe the jumps don't really matter. Weir just said if you fall, it's a one point deduction. Well, if the scores are in the 170-180 range, shouldn't falling be like a 40 point deduction?
     
  38. jcd0805

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    Yea super disappointed in the scoring but Johnny and Tara don’t seem too outraged so I guess it was legit?
     
  39. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Judging is based on difficulty, the winner is almost predestined because the routine regardless of execution from what I gather.
     
  40. Deathofthebambino

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    I agree with you to an extent. The winner is definitely predestined, but I don't think anyone did a harder routine (at least not on the jumps, but again, maybe they don't matter) than Rippon did, and he was the only one that didn't end up on his ass. I don't know why people aren't flipping out about the scoring. The Russian dude was awful. I mean, like really fucking bad.
     
  41. Infield Infidel

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    They explained that if a skater tries a quad, does four rotations and falls, it scores more than completing a triple. Same for missing a triple scoring more than hitting a double, if all the rotations are there. I'm not sure if I agree with that, perhaps more of a deduction, but they want people to go for it. The Japanese guy for instance changed two triples to doubles, so it was clean but not very challenging.
     
  42. Couperin47

    Couperin47 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    So it's becoming more like the NBA, just bomb away from way downtown and don't fall on all of them....
     
  43. Deathofthebambino

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    Yeah, but none of that happened with respect to Rippon. I don't believe anyone actually tried a quad in the event tonight, and he hit a whole bunch of triples, while the other guys fell doing triples (and one of them fell on a double). Unless I missed something, Rippon attempted and completed the hardest jumps.
     
  44. jcd0805

    jcd0805 Member SoSH Member

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    Ok Johnny and Tara ARE outraged.
     
  45. Infield Infidel

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    I get why the Russian dude had a higher tech score, he fell on a quad but might have had the rotations. But he was super meh artistically until the end of his routine. Not sure how that component wasn't significantly worse than Rippon
     
  46. SoxFanInCali

    SoxFanInCali has the rich, deep voice of a god and the penis of Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Triple Axel for Nagasu!
     
  47. amh03

    amh03 Tippi Hedren Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Her reaction after she was all done was just wonderful! What a performance!!
     
  48. Couperin47

    Couperin47 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    I love Gershwin, but for the sake of all that could be holy, eschew the cliché
     
  49. Couperin47

    Couperin47 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    aside from the fact that she had a few jumps, the Italian routine was right out of the late '50s, including the music...
     
  50. SumnerH

    SumnerH Malt Liquor Picker Dope

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    This was basically the stance that had 4-5 people propose me for membership and 2-3 think I should be banned forever when I got SOSH membership. I'd still argue that even something like running the marathon is a great athletic event, but not a sport.
     

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