Dismiss Notice
Guest, I have a big favor to ask you. We've been working very hard to establish ourselves on social media. If you like/follow our pages it would be a HUGE help to us. SoSH on Facebook and Inside the Pylon Thanks! Nip

Fan Killed after being struck in head by foul ball at dodger stadium this season

Discussion in 'MLB Discussion' started by soxhop411, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. soxhop411

    soxhop411 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    33,803
    http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/...oul-ball-dodgers-game-died-blunt-force-injury


    How the fuck did this only come out now?


    Also, this is why netting is important (in a way) a ball that had enough force to go over the netting already in place was powerful enough to kill someone
     
  2. Wake49

    Wake49 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    393
    At first I was 100% against having netting up along the base lines, but given how many people who sit in the good seats can’t seem to put down their phones and pay attention, it’s probably a good idea.
     
  3. TheYaz67

    TheYaz67 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    4,712
    Yeah, seems like more netting is needed down the lines, and a bit higher. I know I can dodge/deflect a screaming line drive hit right at me if I had to in such seats, but I am middle aged and used to play ball. I often look around when at Nats games and see young kids/older folks/clueless people on phones and worry that they would not be able to get out of the way of a foul ball like that, and would have to rely on others to deflect that ball (or catch it) when sitting down the 1st base line at that ballpark.... according to the story this lady was not on her phone, I just don't think she knew how/when to get out of the way and/or read the flight of the ball, and you're not moving very fast at that age even when you want to...

    Edit: Kind of screwed up that the Dodgers did not acknowledge the incident publicly until just now, given lots of people witnessed it, even if they are not "at fault"....
     
  4. barbed wire Bob

    barbed wire Bob crippled by fear Silver Supporter SoSH Member

    Messages:
    8,901
    Was I the only one who thought “pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon” when I read this?

    Oh, and thoughts and prayers for Mrs. Goldbloom’s family.
     
  5. charlieoscar

    charlieoscar Member

    Messages:
    1,285
    We were at a Baltimore game one afternoon in 1995, well before game time with some food and filling out the score card, reading the team magazine. I happened to glance up and saw a baseball heading straight towards us, about 2-3 feet away. I managed to deflect the ball so it didn't hit my wife full in the face but if clipped the edge of her glasses, knocked them off and broke them. I complained to their "customer service" and we were directed to the first aid station but all they did was tape her glasses back together and offer her a soda.

    This was after the strike and they had interns out on the field throwing balls in the stands. There was no one remotely close to us at the time, so it was thrown to us...without any warning. I actually talked to an attorney about this but was told, "Read the back of the ticket." If it was during the game or even batting practice, I could go along with that, but as far as I was concerned the club was responsible.
     
  6. BoSox Rule

    BoSox Rule Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    1,677
    You think you or your kid are catching a ball off of J.D. Martinez’s bat at 116 mph even if you’re paying attention? Maybe with your teeth.
     
  7. BernieRicoBoomer

    BernieRicoBoomer Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    551
    I got hit at a minor league game a couple years ago. I was paying 100% attention and saw the ball coming the entire way...I simply could not get out of the way in time. I am all for it, no matter what anyone seems to be doing these days.
     
  8. sittingstill

    sittingstill Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    1,484
    I've been hit while shooting at both third base (Portland) and first base (back field at JetBlue) and completely agree with the above. In Portland I literally couldn't move--backed into a corner--but my brain essentially just processed "not going to hit my face, not going to hit the camera" before the ball hit me in the stomach. It was a sharp grounder that hit the ground once near the batter's box and then rose up, traveling in a pretty straight line. The spring ball was a line drive with some curve toward me and I was unable to complete calculating the physics involved (if I moved left, was I moving out of the path, or was it curving enough that I would move into it?) in time--all I managed to do was shift my weight off my right leg before it caught me in the shin. (It'll be two years as of St. Patrick's Day, so I'm guessing the scar is permanent.) I see first and third base coaches get hit. Not paying attention doesn't help matters, and I'll have to grant that those of you with the years in baseball and the awesome reflexes regardless of age would in fact manage to get out of the way, or maybe just break a finger or wrist deflecting a ball. But that's in no way the whole story.
     
  9. Red Averages

    Red Averages owes you $50 SoSH Member

    Messages:
    4,692
    Ah yes, the classic victim blaming - especially on a story that features a 79 year old. Ever have a ball come at you over 100 mph when you have less than 2 seconds to react while sitting and having less than 3 feet to move in any one direction?

    I was sitting in the Pavilion club at Fenway and there was a foul ball hit right at me, my wife and two parents. The ball was sliced. My father and wife ducked, my mother didn't. Somehow my brain processed this in the 2 seconds, so I threw my hand in front of the ball at the last second (and my mother's face). Thankfully it redirected... and immediately made a LOUD bang noise behind us. Terrified I turned around and saw an 8 year old boy and his mother. The ball hit the empty chair next to this boy's face and was hit with such force that it bounced ~20 feet away. Eventually someone retrieved it and gave it to the boy as a souvenir. No one (aside from my hand), but that is just one example of a ball that could have killed multiple people.
     
  10. Myt1

    Myt1 the FRESH maker Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    26,529
    I was sitting on the third base line at Camden about 12 years ago. Father with his 6 year old daughter sitting in front of us, leaned back to talk to us a bit. Absolutely screaming like drive foul. He saw my and my brother’s eyes widen and just reacted, basically karate chopping the ball at the last second to deflect it past his daughter. It literally would have killed her in front of us.
     
    #10 Myt1, Feb 5, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2019
  11. charlieoscar

    charlieoscar Member

    Messages:
    1,285
    Many years ago I was at a game at Exhibition Stadium in Toronto late in the season on a rainy day, sitting down the right field line past the foul pole when Willie Upshaw crushed a foul line drive right at me in the first or second inning. Just about everyone was under umbrellas and didn't try for the ball. I tried to step back to cushion the catch but could not because the seating in that area was simply long planks of aluminum and the ball caught me flush on the end of my thumb. Someone in back of me got the ball and I stayed there into extra innings as they decided they were going to complete the game. The next morning I found a doctor and ended up with a thumb splint that I wore while recovering from a fracture. Several years later I encountered Upshaw in the dugout of the Norwich Navigators; he found the story amusing.

    I don't like nets because I like to photograph game action, and a net wouldn't have helped in this case, but I was alert more than 300 feet from home plate and still got injured. Baseball games can be dangerous for fans. I saw an elderly woman get hit by a foul line drive at an Alexandria Dukes game and she was taken away by ambulance. The front row of the stands at that point was about 12 feet up in the air and the foul territory was pretty large. I saw a woman with an infant three or four rows in back of the top end of the dugout, turned, talking with another person, when a line drive caught the baby on the side of the head. A net would have prevented that, I think, but I'm not sure if the woman could have reacted quickly enough if she had been paying attention as things were.

    Even at my age, I still have quick reflexes and react to the crack of the bat but you do slow down, some quicker than others, and you have to put up with all the people who find it necessary to get up during play to go after food. concessions, restroom breaks, or simply just stand.
     
  12. cardiacs

    cardiacs Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    1,096
  13. joe dokes

    joe dokes Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    12,409
    IIRC, Herb Score was calling Domino's when he got hit. Bryce Florie was more of a Papa John's fan. And dont get me started on Wilbur Wood and David Wells. You couldn't get the phones out of their meaty paws.
     
  14. Wake49

    Wake49 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    393
    I wasn’t speaking about the 79yo, it was more of a general statement.
     
  15. ThePrideofShiner

    ThePrideofShiner spooky action from a distance SoSH Member

    Messages:
    6,213
    My uncle got hit by a line drive off the bat of John Hale during batting practice at a game at the Kingdome in 1978.

    He was standing in the aisle talking to his son, someone yelled watch out, he looked up to a ball hitting him in the jaw.

    Reggie Jackson and a trainer rushed to him, while Sparky Lyle comforted the family.

    He was taken to the hospital and ended up only losing a few teeth. The Mariners gave them tickets in the old President's box the next day. They also let him into the clubhouse to meet the Mariners. Being a Yankees fan, he convinced them to let him meet the Yankees instead.

    All that said, I find it terrifying to sit in the lower level on the lines.
     
  16. Red Averages

    Red Averages owes you $50 SoSH Member

    Messages:
    4,692
    It was horrifically ignorant as several people have now chimed in to further prove.
     
  17. Ford Frick's Asterisk

    Ford Frick's Asterisk Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    405
    I was sitting 3rd row in the section just before the third base dugout at a minor league game a few years ago. Baseballs are hard enough to react to and predict their trajectory. Bats are something else entirely. I'd like to say it was my acute awareness and lightning quick reflexes that kept me from getting hurt, but it was simple luck that I was five feet outside the bat's path. The best I could have done was to shield my head. Fortunately, those seats are now behind netting.

    It's not unusual to see major league infielders go into self-defense mode on wicked grounders. They're standing about 100 feet away and focused intently on what's happening right in front of them, with reflexes and equipment the rest of us don't possess. If fans are sitting that close to the plate, they need something more than just a better attention span to protect them.

    *
     
  18. mauidano

    mauidano Mai Tais for everyone! SoSH Member

    Messages:
    27,045
    What frightens me most is the pitchers getting hit by line drives. Seems like every year someone gets hit in the head. Pure luck no one has been killed on the mound.
     
  19. pedro1918

    pedro1918 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    3,682
    I'm pretty sure Mike Mussina was watching the Seinfeld finale when he took a line drive in the face from Sandy Alomar.
     
  20. Wake49

    Wake49 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    393
    whatever
     
  21. BigJimEd

    BigJimEd Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    2,528
    I vaguely remember this from when I was a kid. I do remember seeing a couple interviews around his HOF induction. Family believes Rice saved the kids life.
     
  22. OCD SS

    OCD SS Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    7,210
    And that kid grew up to announce games for the Red Sox on TV.
     
  23. richgedman'sghost

    richgedman'sghost Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    1,295
    Don't act like a complete ahole when you get called out for a moronic and ignorant post. Several years ago before the netting was put into place at hockey games, I was sitting about 5 rows behind the goalie. The puck was shot from the point at what seemed like 100 mph. The goalie was just able to slightly deflect it but it still hit me in the arm. I had a bruise for a few weeks after that. @Wake49
     
  24. Lose Remerswaal

    Lose Remerswaal Leaves after the 8th inning Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    33,386
    Johnathan Keane announced games for the Red Sox on TV?
     
  25. terrynever

    terrynever Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    13,963
    Saw Dick Allen crush a foul line drive down the left field line at Connie Mack Stadium in 1964. Smashed the wooden seat behind me, breaking a wood slat into splinters. I wanted no part of that ball as it came at me. Nobody got hurt, thankfully.
     
  26. staz

    staz Intangible Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    12,061
    I remain in the minority on this, but I agree that taking in a live game should be pure pleasure - a good day - not one that results in real injury.

    I just wish there were some way to protect fans who desire such protection, while providing areas for those of us who want to sit as close to the action as possible without any barrier between us and the game.
     
  27. NJ_Sox_Fan

    NJ_Sox_Fan Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    4,562
    I despise the nets. It’s terrible that people get hurt, but I’m not paying hundreds of dollars to sit behind that stupid screen. Hopefully they can come up with something where people can be safe, and those who want to sit in a prime location without obstructions can.
     

Share This Page