EPL Round 26 Gamethread
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This is stupid. I mean, it's stupid in NFL too, but to say Tottenham is somehow favored by EPL over Liverpool would be a bad hot take for a 12 year old.
Holy shit, that side ref had money on this game. No other explanation. And fuck Kane for that pathetic dive.
Wasn't the AR the one saying Kane was offside? I mean, Liverpool appealed for ref to go talk to him.
Just a nit, but last touch before Kane penalty foul was off Pool player. No offside then, regardless of position. Right?
We went through a page or replies in the last 5 minutes of a game. Don’t think that’s ever happened in a non World Cup gamethread
I thought both the Kane and Lamela penalties were fouls. Karius comes out to challenge Kane, throws himself in and and gets nowhere near the ball while obstructing Kane's path. Kane makes the most of the contact but it's an obvious foul. Karius has no right to obstruct Kane's path like that if he's not playing the ball, which he was't.
Kane was clearly offside though and the penalty should not have been given unless Lovren touched the ball. If Lovren did touch the ball, that plays Kane onside and then you have the issue of whether Kane being an offside position was "interfering with play," which he probably was but nobody knows what that actually means. Regardless, Kane missed that penalty anyway.
I haven't seen a replay yet but I thought Salah was slightly offside before his goal.
Kane was clearly offside though and the penalty should not have been given unless Lovren touched the ball. If Lovren did touch the ball, that plays Kane onside and then you have the issue of whether Kane being an offside position was "interfering with play," which he probably was but nobody knows what that actually means. Regardless, Kane missed that penalty anyway.
I haven't seen a replay yet but I thought Salah was slightly offside before his goal.
https://streamja.com/p6j
11 seconds. Lamela is jumping into the ball, VVD is pulling out when he sees him coming in. Lamela collapses like he’s shot, continuing his well-earned diving reputation. Higher levels of contact happened four or five times on Salah’s run-in to goal alone.
11 seconds. Lamela is jumping into the ball, VVD is pulling out when he sees him coming in. Lamela collapses like he’s shot, continuing his well-earned diving reputation. Higher levels of contact happened four or five times on Salah’s run-in to goal alone.
Both penalties were incorrect...and that’s coming from someone who hates Liverpool.
VVD never touches Lamela, who goes down like he’s been shot.
VVD never touches Lamela, who goes down like he’s been shot.
VVD didn't kick him at all. His knee bumped his ass and he went down like he was shot in the leg.
https://gyazo.com/f0f62f672a6cd21867a3a91e95310d2d
Get a clue Klig. VVD actually pulls his kick and Lamela goes down like he was fucking shot. Dive all the way. Cheap, diving team the whole game. You should be embarrassed defending that.
No, because Kane was offside when the ball was initially played by the Spurs player, too.
VVD’s toe absolutely brushed Lamela’s leg as he pulled out. It’s never a penalty, however.
Kane was offside when the initial ball was played through. That’s the end of the story. No Liverpool player made a controlled play on the ball. You need more than a simple touch to negate the offside. The “penalty” never happened- the flag should have been up and the play blown dead.
Kane was offside when the initial ball was played through. That’s the end of the story. No Liverpool player made a controlled play on the ball. You need more than a simple touch to negate the offside. The “penalty” never happened- the flag should have been up and the play blown dead.
I should add... Lovren was fighting with a player that was in an offside position- that’s also reason for the whistle to be blown. You don’t have to play the ball to be offside.
Not sure who it was, but you're right; I went back and looked at the replay and Salah was played on.
Leaving aside all the officiating brouhaha -- what a match that was. Two goal of the season candidates in one match. I actually think on the balance of play a draw was a pretty fair result.
Hacked him right from behind at the knee. The only reason it looks like he pulled his kick was because his leg was ricocheting back after it made contact with Lamela.
Because the still make it look 800 times worse. It was a crap call end of. Both Kane and Lamela should he suspended. And sorry coremiller but that wasn't a draw on the balance of play. It was a fucking thunder goal from Wanyama and not much else. As much as I enjoy the idea of Liverpool city limits running out of candles to light tonight in mourning for the refs they showed tremendous resilience to take the lead after the double awful Kane peno. There was no Justice in that result.
Spurs had 65% possession, shots were 13-9 Spurs, shots on target were 6-3 Spurs, xG (not counting the penalties) was 1.4-1.2 in favor of Liverpool. Liverpool's two goals were Eric Dier playing in Salah by accident and Salah dribbling through half the Spurs team by himself. Liverpool created very little apart from that. Liverpool were better in the first half but couldn't translate it into real chances, and Spurs pretty much bossed the second half until Salah's goal. Liverpool sat too deep in the second half and couldn't counter effectively. Wanyama's strike was a one-off but Spurs were consistently getting into dangerous positions.
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The case against the penalty, imo, is that Lamela threw himself in front of a swinging VVD in order to initiate the call, like a basketball player jumping into an outstretched defender to draw a foul. Yes VVD got him good, but it is tough to really swing a game based on that kind of a play.
Is there a similar photo for Salah's ridiculously incredible 1 on 6 goal?
I might be wrong, but I certainly thought he might be off when the ball first came his way.
Either way, that was one of the best soccer matches I have ever seen, incredible goals, two teams going for the throat, each dominating a half and the incredible swings in the last fifteen minutes.
I might be wrong, but I certainly thought he might be off when the ball first came his way.
Either way, that was one of the best soccer matches I have ever seen, incredible goals, two teams going for the throat, each dominating a half and the incredible swings in the last fifteen minutes.
I called him off while live. It wasn’t even close. Wanyama held him on by a couple of yards.
It's because we're not Spurs fans. He doesn't hit him with anything close to full force.. he almost completely pulls off and barely taps him..just look at that video..
edit: ok.. seeing that second clip you showed..I appear to be wrong. apologies.
edit2: actually the angle is everything.. it does look like he gets kicked hard, but a lot of that is in the embellishment. From one angle it doesn't look like he hit him and the other it does.
Bakayoko sent off on a woefully soft second yellow on 30' by Jon Moss's nemesis at the annual EPL Razzies, Mike Dean
Watford go ahead on a penalty 10 minutes later after Courtois brings down Deulofeu in the box. 1-0 at the half
Watford go ahead on a penalty 10 minutes later after Courtois brings down Deulofeu in the box. 1-0 at the half
Outstanding effort from Hazard levels in the last 10 minutes, but Janmaat answers back with a great goal off a 1-2 with Pereyra minutes later. 2-1 at this point for Watford
Deulofeu has been unbelievable. Deflected goal to make it 3-1 after drawing the penalty for the 1-0, but outside those goals he's been everywhere.
Deulofeu has been unbelievable. Deflected goal to make it 3-1 after drawing the penalty for the 1-0, but outside those goals he's been everywhere.
Leicester City did the same. Really hard to fathom how the players aren’t in some way marked when evaluated for transfers in later.
A lot to debate, but a worthwhile review here (ESPNFC).
Conclusion, Kane not offside. Shaka and Alejandro have a pretty reasonable give and take from both perspectives.
I posted in the LFC thread, but I disagree. He influences the play from an offside position and gains an advantage. I’m not going to repost the rule as it’s written again, but it seems pretty black and white.
And, again, if the level of contact that brought him down is a penalty, then the game should just be an endless parade of them any time the ball is in the box. Kane decided he was going down the second Karius hit the ground, not when he felt a whisper of contact. He dove- the fact there was a touch doesn’t vindicate him.
And, again, if the level of contact that brought him down is a penalty, then the game should just be an endless parade of them any time the ball is in the box. Kane decided he was going down the second Karius hit the ground, not when he felt a whisper of contact. He dove- the fact there was a touch doesn’t vindicate him.
I don't think it was a dive. Karius leaves his feet to dive into the challenge, cuts off Kane's path, and gets nowhere near the ball. If you're not playing the ball you're not allowed to just throw yourself at players and force them to get out of your way. I think there's a big difference between exaggerating a real foul to ensure the ref calls it and pretending there's a foul when there is none, which is what Dele was doing (and for which he was properly booked). What Kane did is the equivalent of NBA players drawing contact after getting the defender out of position and then throwing up their hands when they feel the contact. James Harden does this 8 times a game.