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Drew vs Tom vs Time

Discussion in 'Blinded by the Lombardis: Patriots Forum' started by Dernells Casket n Flagon, Aug 18, 2018.

  1. Super Nomario

    Super Nomario Member SoSH Member

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    I agree with all that. My statement was in the context of the Superdome having some sort of special QB-enhancing properties beyond that of a normal domed stadium. You made the comparison to Todd Helton upthread; I think that's unfair because there's only one Coors Field while in the NFL more than a quarter of the teams play in domes or retractable roof stadiums. Brees has a significant advantage but hardly a unique one.
     
  2. Marciano490

    Marciano490 Urological Expert SoSH Member

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    If you’re really going to get down to it, isn’t the whole division (NFC South) favorable to QBs? All the teams are warm weather and/or dome teams. It’s not just that Brady plays home games at Foxboro, he also plays away every year in NY and Buffalo.
     
  3. Dernells Casket n Flagon

    Dernells Casket n Flagon Member SoSH Member

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    5 games into the season and neither player is slowing down:

    Brees 148 of 190 (77.9%) for 1658 Yards, 11 TDs, 0 INTs and a 122.3 Rating
    Brady 121 of 179 (67.6%) for 1259 Yards, 12 TDs, 6 INTs and a 96.1 Rating

    Brees just passed Peyton for the all time lead in passing yards. Brady looks like he'll need to come back next season to pass Peyton and Favre. Brady temporarily took a 1 TD lead on Brees with his 500th TD pass this past weekend and is now 8 shy of Favre and 39 shy of Peyton.

    Including playoff numbers, Brady is now at 571 TDs to Peyton's 579 to Brees' 528. Brady has 77,644 yards to Manning's 79,279 and Brees' 76,312.
     
  4. bsj

    bsj Renegade Crazed Genius SoSH Member

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    3 of those damn INTs are deflections (and at least 1 cost a TD)...13 and 3 looks so much better
     
  5. EricFeczko

    EricFeczko Member SoSH Member

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    The conventional wisdom is plain wrong. This idea that QB's magically breakdown later in their career is driven more by randomness within a single season than a downward trajectory. Especially for QB's with 10+ years experience.


    http://www.advancedfootballanalytic...rch/payroll-personnel/93-how-quarterbacks-age

    The other form of decline is injuries/surgeries, such as in the case of Peyton Manning.
     
  6. GoDa

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    I remember Dan Marino being a QB who it felt like lost it pretty quick.

    One season he seemed to still had a prime-ish quality arm, then the next he was a crafty vet throwing Manning-esque lollipops. I remember it being pretty brutal listening to the announcers, in denial, raving about how he still had it on any of the most mediocre throws.
     
  7. Papelbon's Poutine

    Papelbon's Poutine Homeland Security SoSH Member

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    Didn’t he have a few significant injuries right before that?
     

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