Cutting The Cord on Cable/Satellite TV Service?

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Yeah, no NESN in that scenario.  Much of this thread is dedicated to finding ways to get the Sox broadcasts (but even then you're just getting games, not pre-, post- or stuff like Charlie Moore.  The pity).  If you're outside the Sox broadcast territory, it's easy; just get MLB.tv which works on an AppleTV, a Roku or over the computer (like the other services you mention).  Inside the Boston territory - most of New England - you'd need to get creative because Sox games will be blacked out on MLB.tv - they check your geographic location by IP address.  One idea is to use a proxy service to make your IP appear to be from outside the region; another is to find a TV subscriber with the Extra Innings package in another place and arrange to locate a Slingbox on their cable TV setup.  There may be additional ideas I'm not fully versed on - a few in this thread will know more. 
 
And of course there's the radio.
 

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I just pirate crap if I want to rewind/pause. I dunno. Zero desire to watch on a tablet or phone when I've got a 42" HDTV in my living room
 
I've got Netflix, Pirate Baym, and just use the internal tuner for OTA and I'm happy as a pig in shit. It sucks not having the Sox, but there's the bar and online streams for that. I tried MLB.TV, but not only couldn't I watch Sox games, it wouldn't let me watch ANY game and gave me local blackouts on all games. So, yeah, until that is fixed, no MLB.TV
 

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For those of you cutting the cord, where are you getting your internet service? Are you going through your cable provider? Verizon no longer offers naked DSL (in DC, anyway), Clear doesn't serve my neighborhood, and Comcast is good but expensive enough as a stand alone, non-bundled internet that it begs the question of whether it isn't worth just keeping cable.
 

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I'm just getting standalone internet from Comcast right now, but if you're in Boston it might be worth checking out NetBlazr. Local ISP serving the Back Bay and South End.  I don't use them but I've heard a bunch of good things.  They do need rooftop line-of-sight to work, but the rates and service both seem good.  Unfortunately I don't own my building or have good roof access, but if I did I'd definitely give them a shot. 
 

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RSN Diaspora said:
For those of you cutting the cord, where are you getting your internet service? Are you going through your cable provider? Verizon no longer offers naked DSL (in DC, anyway), Clear doesn't serve my neighborhood, and Comcast is good but expensive enough as a stand alone, non-bundled internet that it begs the question of whether it isn't worth just keeping cable.
 
TWC in NYC bundles cost at minimum $30/month more than plain old internet, and realistically closer to $50/month more... So cutting the cable TV was a win for me. If the bundle was cheaper, cutting the cord would not be worth it. Depends on what you have available to you.
 

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I'm just getting standalone internet from Comcast right now, but if you're in Boston it might be worth checking out NetBlazr. Local ISP serving the Back Bay and South End.  I don't use them but I've heard a bunch of good things.  They do need rooftop line-of-sight to work, but the rates and service both seem good.  Unfortunately I don't own my building or have good roof access, but if I did I'd definitely give them a shot. 
I've got FiOS, so I'm spoiled. I caught the rep on a good day or something and I have a 25 MbPS (About 3 MB/s) for $40/month. Outlandishly reliable, never a slow down, no downtime, worked through the hurricanes and blizzards. It went out once and I got a phone call within 5 minutes saying service was out in the area and will be back shortly, I think during a thunderstorm. 
 
So, that enables me to watch The Daily Show, Colbert, and Conan in HD via HDMI on my TV effortlessly. It makes downloading shit simple and quick. It makes getting media on my schedule a lot better than a DVR or sitting there flipping channels for 20 minutes while I hope to the TV Gods I can find something to entertain me for 22 minutes + commercials. 
 
I hate cable. I don't want to pay for advertisements. I don't want to subsidize the fucking Kardashians and Snooki. I've saved about $6000 over the past four years (~$125/month for service, HD, box, HBO, etc). And I'd gleefully pay HBO for Game of Thrones, but instead I pirate it in 1080p twenty minutes after it is done airing and watch it at my convenience during the week. Oh, and I have all the files organized in a nice folder so I never even have to get off the couch to switch DVDs or shit. It is wonderful. I'm spoiled, I'd pay money for this luxury. But, alas, it is what it is.
 

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So we're moving to our new house next weekend, and I only signed up for internet. I'm also buying a new TV.
 
What I'd ultimately like to do most is connect through a VPN and get NFL Game Pass, which is only available outside the US and Mexico. Roku doesn't offer a web browser, would I need to get a TV with a web browser to make this happen, outside of connecting a computer to the TV?
 

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RSN Diaspora said:
So we're moving to our new house next weekend, and I only signed up for internet. I'm also buying a new TV.
 
What I'd ultimately like to do most is connect through a VPN and get NFL Game Pass, which is only available outside the US and Mexico. Roku doesn't offer a web browser, would I need to get a TV with a web browser to make this happen, outside of connecting a computer to the TV?
 
Do you have a Mac or a PC?  If you have a Mac, you can just hook up an Apple TV and use Airplay to mirror your computer screen to the TV.  (You can do this with an iOS device as well, but not if the stream is in Flash.)
 

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Do you have a Mac or a PC?  If you have a Mac, you can just hook up an Apple TV and use Airplay to mirror your computer screen to the TV.  (You can do this with an iOS device as well, but not if the stream is in Flash.)
 
Hmmm...I do have a MacBook Pro. Is Apple TV as good as Roku?
 

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Bump for a quick question. We are cutting the cord this week, as we are getting a Roku and a blu ray player that streams for Christmas. We have a tablet that our son uses, two laps tops and two iphones. Sometimes we have both laptops and the tablet streaming or using the internet in one way or another, and the phones. What speeds do I need to negotiate for in order to keep everything running smoothly and potentially simultaneously? We plan to do stand alone internet, and it appears that 50mpbs from Comcast would be $60 a month; Verizon FIOS, which we have now, is, of course, telling us stand alone would cost as much as a bundle for an existing customer.  I'd like to know what it is I need, exactly, before I make the phone call to them and try to negotiate.
 
Id' really, really like to avoid going back to Comcast if possible, as they suck in every way humanly possible and I hate them with white hot intensity. But if it's going to save me $20-$30 a month, I'll hold my nose and do it.
 
Thanks.
 

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After two years of no cable, I'm going back.  It wasn't an easy decision, since NESN isn't available here anyway, but I really wasn't saving any money this way, so why not go with the more convenient option and have access to additional content that I might be able to get into as well?
 
To break it down, we were paying the following per month...
 
Cable Internet: $65.00 (Fuck you Time Warner, indeed)
Netflix: $8.00
Hulu Plus: $8.00
Amazon Prime: ~$7.00 (will go up to 8.50 in the fall)
A la carte programming: ~$24.00
 
So that ends up being about $112.00 per month, or more when there are more shows in season that Hulu doesn't carry.  Replacing Hulu, Netflix, and our a la carte viewing with a cable box, we will be hit with a bill for $106.00 per month, or $118.00 if we keep the DVR functionality after the three month trial period.  That's for Cablevision's preferred package, which includes the extra ESPN's, MLB, BBC and a number of other channels we know we'll watch.
 
We're going to try relying only on OnDemand for shows we don't watch live to see if we are happy without the DVR.  Worst case scenario, we're paying $6.00 a month more for it than we were for cutting the cord.  We'll keep Amazon Prime for old shows we want to watch and the shipping awesomeness.  It pays for itself.
 
I thought it was worth bumping the thread in case other people are looking into getting rid of cable.  Depending on how you go about replacing it, it might not be worth it.
 

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No, I'm getting the triple play package with has internet, phone and cable.  The package without phone costs the same, so we're having them throw it in.
 

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No, I'm getting the triple play package with has internet, phone and cable.  The package without phone costs the same, so we're having them throw it in.
 
Time Warner has been real cute about this for over a year now: they have NO promotional or special deals that do not include their phone service. They are consistent in their business model: We will ALWAYS bundle, the customer will purchase what we want, ignore their preferences.
 

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Time Warner has been real cute about this for over a year now: they have NO promotional or special deals that do not include their phone service. They are consistent in their business model: We will ALWAYS bundle, the customer will purchase what we want, ignore their preferences.
 
It's not just TW, they all do this (I am learning). My 2yr FiOS contract is up in a couple of weeks and they are rewarding me with a Loyalty Discount of $15 off/mo which ultimately represents a net increase of $10/mo. to my existing plan, so I'm shopping and looking into Comcast. I was considering dropping phone and going with Ooma but as stated above the triple play deals with either company are same price as TV/Internet only deals. Basically all of the packages are structured to provide minimal savings vs just going all in on a triple play pkg.
 

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In most situations, calling up to cancel your service will get them to offer you deals that were magically not available if you simply called and asked if they could find a way to lower your bill.  This is true outside of cable companies as well, but is particularly true when dealing with your cable company.  Let them know you are shopping around and are considering Comcast.  In fact, call Comcast and get a quote so that Verizon has a number to try and match or beat.
 
Even if you still leave, you'll have turned over all the stones before making the switch.
 

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They only give you those deals if they know there is a direct competitor.  Where I'm at in DC there is no FiOS, and Verizon offers dogshit DSL plus some Dish Network package. Not even RCN recognized my address.  When I threatened to cancel Comcast they basically said good riddance and put on the phone somebody who would handle the cancellation. 
 

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Snodgrass'Muff said:
In most situations, calling up to cancel your service will get them to offer you deals that were magically not available if you simply called and asked if they could find a way to lower your bill.  This is true outside of cable companies as well, but is particularly true when dealing with your cable company.  Let them know you are shopping around and are considering Comcast.  In fact, call Comcast and get a quote so that Verizon has a number to try and match or beat.
 
Even if you still leave, you'll have turned over all the stones before making the switch.
 
 
I tried negotiating with the rep via FiOS website chat feature but got nowhere. I'm sure I will have better luck by phone or at a B&M (we live close to a FiOS store) and going in prepared with competitor's price and ready to walk. All I want is the same rate as a new customer, they can keep the sign-on cash. It's frustrating when they are trying to tell me that I would still be saving $30 from some arbitrary "listed rate", that nobody actually pays. 
 

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I'll just pile this question on here... I'm wondering if anybody here has experience with RCN in Boston/MetroWest and can provide feedback. I can save money, get a better channel lineup, faster internet (listed speed anyway), 2 additional free HD cable boxes, free install and NO CONTRACT.
 
My concern is that I used them about 5 years ago and I would lose internet and/or cable connection maybe once a month and CS sucked. My hope is that my new location and time have been away will represent a improvement. However, if Yelp reviewers can be trusted it's not encouraging.
 

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Trying to save some dough each month.
Just cut the Time Warner cable & phone cord, however we have kept them on for internet. We've got Amazon prime, Netflix the Roku stick and a few of the HD channels that just come though for TV and Ooma for our phone service. I now need to find a fair priced modem so I don't have to pay the monthy fee to Time Warner. Not having NESN suck big time. TW is charging us $63.89 for monthly basic internet....not a fan.
 

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Yeah, that's about where I was for price when I moved and had the chance to jump over to Optimum.  Be careful with your cost calculations when looking at the difference.  It catches up quickly, especially if you do something like MLB.TV which is about 10 bucks a month when broken down (for premium, anyway).  I wasn't even including that in my list above, so I'm actually going to come out ahead with a triple play package.
 
Of course, if you were a long time customer and had your cable bill up out of that introductory rate, you are probably saving quite a bit.
 

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Trying to save some dough each month.
Just cut the Time Warner cable & phone cord, however we have kept them on for internet. We've got Amazon prime, Netflix the Roku stick and a few of the HD channels that just come though for TV and Ooma for our phone service. I now need to find a fair priced modem so I don't have to pay the monthy fee to Time Warner. Not having NESN suck big time. TW is charging us $63.89 for monthly basic internet....not a fan.
 
There is a short list of approved modems to use with TW, the short answer is the Arris/Moto Surfboard 6141, which is $80 at Amazon, but you can find refurbs and OEM brown box versions around $65 if you hunt at Amazon. Other brands are no better or worse and the lesser models , like the 6121 I own are limited in bandwidth if you ever consider TW options above the 50/5 tier.
 

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They only give you those deals if they know there is a direct competitor.  Where I'm at in DC there is no FiOS, and Verizon offers dogshit DSL plus some Dish Network package. Not even RCN recognized my address.  When I threatened to cancel Comcast they basically said good riddance and put on the phone somebody who would handle the cancellation. 
I've had good luck with Comcast by calling them and saying I want to drop down to a more basic package. They usually come back with promotional deals where I can keep close to what I have for a lower price. They have also thrown in discounted cable boxes/DVR's on occasion.  Basically, don't be a dick when you call in or make empty threats and they will work with you.
 

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Evaluating netBlazr in Boston to replace Comcast internet. Any subscriber feedback?
 
I wanted to switch to these guys, but it would have cost about $300 to put a dish on the roof of our building (which we don't control).  Between the cost and the logistics it was just a bit too complicated to pursue.  Too bad because I hear great things about the service. 
 

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Well, Aereo is on life support. SCOTUS just ruled 6-3 that the service is infringing on broadcasters' copyright when it picks up over-the-air TV signals and streams them over the Internet to its subscribers.
 

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We made the move to cut the cord on TV through Cox here in RI a few months back.  TV is now Netflix through AppleTV, and things like ESPN3 to get through the World Cup.
 
Recently got automated email from Cox support saying that I'm using well over my bandwidth per month (not that they charge for it).  Apparently between all of us in the house we've managed to use ~600 gigs of data over each of the last 2 months.  I suspect most of this is streaming video/Netflix, based on what looks like a couple gigs per show.  I'm less concerned about Cox shutting me off (though they claim they do in some cases), but more wondering whether this is typical of using AppleTV, and whether there's anything I should tweak (video quality?) in case Cox gets more aggressive.
 
Has anyone seen the need to do anything like this?  What do I need to look at, other than dialing back the family TV habit, which I'll be working on as well?
 

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I've been a cord-cutter since 2006, but I just recently got sucked back in by big-cable. Verizon and Comcast have offers that were right up my alley:
 
Comcast:
 
  • 50 channels (including FX, AMC, and Comedy Central, but no ESPN or sports)
  • 100/25 MB/s "Blast Plus" internet
  • 1 year of HBO or Showtime free, with access to the respective apps
  • $69/mo + taxes, fees, equipment rental (can be avoided if you purchase your own)
 
Verizon:
 
  • 25 local channels
  • 50/25 MB/s FIOS Internet
  • 1 year of HBO or Showtime free, with access to the respective apps
  • $50/mo + taxes, fees, equipment rental
 
Even though the Comcast deal is better on its face, it has the higher overall cost once the promotional period is up. That, and the wiring in my building is crap for cable, but suitable for FIOS (weird). I went with Verizon. The way I see it, the promotional rate is comparable to what I was paying for internet alone, plus I get the local channels without having to fuss with indoor antennas. I could see these deals, if kept at reasonable prices, luring cord cutters back in.
 

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It's not weird for FIOS to have better wiring.  It's actually usually the case.  FIOS is all new infrastructure while many cable buildings are using wires that have been out there for the better part of a decade or more.
 

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You're right, Snod. Hadn't considered that. FWIW, I'm not thrilled with my first impression of Verizon. I wasn't present for the installation, but the credentials they left the wife with (and e-mailed to me) to access my account page didn't work. It took 3 hours (and 3 levels of tech support) to resolve. Once I could get into my account to set up my SSID and internet security (which should've been part of the installation...), I tried to log in to the HBO Go app. HBO wasn't showing on my account (although I could watch the channels on my set top box). When I called Verizon, no one had heard of the deal even when I linked their techs to the promotional page. This took another hour to resolve. Ultimately they offered me the "Fully Loaded" package at the $50 price for the inconvenience, but this seems to be the same old cable company BS. 
 
Back on topping: cord cutting is probably still a good idea.
 

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If you need Amazon Prime, then Roku makes sense over WD.
 
The UI is much more responsive on the Roku 3 than the 2--navigating around the 2 can be extremely sluggish.  It's night and day.  The major downside to the 3 is no component output, which may or may not matter to you.
 

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I'm not full on cutting the cord but am going to drop the cable box in the bedroom as I use it probably twice a month and even when I do, it doesn't function properly (Xfinity X1 - have never had an issue with the main box in the living room, have had them replace the bedroom box three times and still have issues). 
 
If you still want to keep basic cable as well, we use the Xfinity (not X1) basic digital converter box in our BR, which is only like $2/mo. Worth having for west coast Sox games if nothing else.
 

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Okay, so I'm ready to make the move. I live in Boston and currently have RCN for cable and internet. They will not give me a lower price. FIOS cable television is not available in the area, but they do offer internet. So I'm thinking just using Verizon for my internet. I'm also fairly certain that I can get the major networks with a digital antennae.

So for streaming, I just buy a device like Roku, connect it to my television and then to my wireless router? Is that it? Should I be shopping for other devices instead of Roku? I have two 3 year old boys. Should I just buy a gaming network instead? What should I buy? What device should I buy and how much should I look to spend?
 

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There's two general flows to get good content after you cut the cord: 
 
1. content provider via set-connected device → TV screen
2. computer screen → set-connected device → TV screen
 
Start with 1.  Content providers can be things like Hulu and Netflix that let you browse a library of titles for a subscription, or iTunes or Amazon which let you buy or rent individual titles.  Set-connected devices are things like AppleTV, Roku, Fire TV (Amazon) and Chromecast.  Gaming rigs like Xbox / PS4 fit here as well. Not every provider is available on every device; if you already do a lot of purchasing in the Apple ecosystem, for instance, or you own a lot of Apple hardware, get the Apple TV and not a Roku.  If you use Android / Google Play to get media a lot, a Chromecast or Roku is probably better.  If you use Amazon Prime a lot, you might consider the Fire TV.   If you see gaming being a component to your entertainment, pick an Xbox or Playstation.  I'd say Roku is the safest "agnostic" choice if you don't already line up in a content ecosystem.  Hulu, Netflix and free stuff like Youtube and are available on everything.  Also, if you have a buddy/relative that maintains a cable account, it's not unheard of to share passwords and log in to WatchESPN (crucial for live sports, hardest to come by for cord cutters) and maybe even HBO Go.  Those services are, as of now, still tied to having cable accounts even though you can get them via streaming. 
 
Then, 2. Wirelessly streaming a computer screen to your TV is a key component to the cord-cutting experience in my opinion.  It helps you "fill in the cracks" and watch things you can't find via the device you buy.  So you can stream stuff from websites (all the major networks put shows on the web that don't always show up on the streaming services), live sports streaming over the web, or maybe that movie or TV show you may have have as a file.  If you have Apple hardware, Apple TV makes this easy.  If you use a PC, get a Chromecast and you can stream anything to it from the Chrome browser.  I honestly don't know what the other boxes let you do, or what third-party software you might need; I use Apple for everything and it really does just work.  
 
That's where I'd start. 
 

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dirtynine said:
There's two general flows to get good content after you cut the cord: 
 
1. content provider via set-connected device →[/size] TV screen
2. computer screen →[/size] set-connected device → [/size]TV screen
 
Start with 1.  Content providers can be things like Hulu and Netflix that let you browse a library of titles for a subscription, or iTunes or Amazon which let you buy or rent individual titles.  Set-connected devices are things like AppleTV, Roku, Fire TV (Amazon) and Chromecast.  Gaming rigs like Xbox / PS4 fit here as well. Not every provider is available on every device; if you already do a lot of purchasing in the Apple ecosystem, for instance, or you own a lot of Apple hardware, get the Apple TV and not a Roku.  If you use Android / Google Play to get media a lot, a Chromecast or Roku is probably better.  If you use Amazon Prime a lot, you might consider the Fire TV.   If you see gaming being a component to your entertainment, pick an Xbox or Playstation.  I'd say Roku is the safest "agnostic" choice if you don't already line up in a content ecosystem.  Hulu, Netflix and free stuff like Youtube and are available on everything.  Also, if you have a buddy/relative that maintains a cable account, it's not unheard of to share passwords and log in to WatchESPN (crucial for live sports, hardest to come by for cord cutters) and maybe even HBO Go.  Those services are, as of now, still tied to having cable accounts even though you can get them via streaming. 
 
Then, 2. Wirelessly streaming a computer screen to your TV is a key component to the cord-cutting experience in my opinion.  It helps you "fill in the cracks" and watch things you can't find via the device you buy.  So you can stream stuff from websites (all the major networks put shows on the web that don't always show up on the streaming services) or maybe that movie or TV show you may have have as a file.  If you have Apple hardware, Apple TV makes this easy.  If you use a PC, get a Chromecast and you can stream anything to it from the Chrome browser.  I honestly don't know what the other boxes let you do, or what third-party software you might need; I use Apple for everything and it really does just work.  
 
That's where I'd start.
Thanks. I have a microsoft laptop and an android tablet. I don't have Netflix or Amazon Prime but I imagine I would subscribe to Netflix. I've got a wireless router and a television and I use the Boston Library system fairly extensively and I know they have streaming options. So, in addition to a device like Roku for option 1, I need an additional item to connect my laptop to my television. This is where Chromecast comes in? Is that the idea. Get a Roku and Chromecast?

Do I even need a Roku? If I have a netflix account and an android and either a chromecast or a roku streaming stick, am I all set?
 

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Get a Roku and Chromecast?
 
 
Sounds like that would cove a lot of bases for you. The good thing about Chromecast is that it's super cheap ($35) so you can just tack it on to your setup without much hesitation.  Your map would look like 
 
Netflix/etc. via Roku → TV screen
Windows PC / Android tablet (surfing to BPL content, etc.) → Chromecast → TV screen
 
The only complication is that you'll need two HDMI inputs for your TV.  
 
Oh, and I should have mentioned that over-the-air channels are a big component to this as well of course, but that probably goes without saying. 
 

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Amazon just released a Fire stick to compete with Chromecast.
 
What exactly does it do? I use my Wii to run Netflix and I do have Amazon Prime, but I just watch it on my laptop. Is there a subscription that comes with these stick things or do you just plug and play?
 

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Amazon just released a Fire stick to compete with Chromecast.
 
What exactly does it do? I use my Wii to run Netflix and I do have Amazon Prime, but I just watch it on my laptop. Is there a subscription that comes with these stick things or do you just plug and play?
 
They are all plug and play and dependant on your individual subscriptions to every app. So if you buy a FireStick, a FireTV, a Roku, or a Chromecast, it's a one time charge for the device, although you will have to pay for stuff like Netflix, HuluPlus, AmazonPrime, etc.
 

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I cut the cable cord a while back but it didn't stop me from watching some Red Sox games this past season (despite being in the no fly zone). I'd like to watch some Celtics games but NBA League Pass broadband seems like a really bad deal - 
  1. Local team is blacked out (was able to get around this for the sox)
  2. National tv broadcast (ABC, ESPN, TNT, NBATV) games are blacked out (iotw, all the good games)
  3. All playoffs blacked out
  4. $199 for the season
  5. League Pass has a rep for streaming issues and poor customer service
Do I have any other options? Should I just give it a shot and hope the vpn method takes care numbers 1, 2 and 3? Any info/insight would be much appreciated
 

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dirtynine said:
Something like TunnelBear to put your IP in England, and then the international League Pass for $119? This scenario assumes watching on a computer or throwing your computer screen to a larger display; if you watch directly via the NBA AppleTV app or the like the networking aspect might be a bit more involved. 
thanks d9, I'm considering this, I would use a desktop with Chrome/Zenmate and push the feed to my tv. If I pull the trigger I'll be sure to report the results. In the meantime, if anyone else would like to chime in with their suggestions I am all ears
 

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I've also heard good things about ballstreams.com for basketball... I believe its the same guys who run hockeystreams, which most of the Stache can vouch for is legit, clear HD video streams at a cheaper price than NHL Gamecenter
 

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well, I signed up for 3 months of ballstreams, watching last night's C's game right now. Will report back after a few live games
 
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That's pretty nice if it had networks. 80% of what I watch is on 3 networks (CBS, ESPN of some sort, SHW)
 
That article says HBO will be available soon online, will SHW be anytime soon?