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Cutting The Cord on Cable/Satellite TV Service?

Discussion in 'BYTE ME: Technology discussion' started by LoweTek, May 29, 2009.

  1. ElcaballitoMVP

    ElcaballitoMVP Member SoSH Member

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    Do you have TMobile by any chance? They've given away MLB TV every year so you could use that for Sox and Directv Now for the majority of the rest.

    Edit: I have Directv Now and like it. I haven't tried the others, so there may be a better option, but the DVR function works well, it has a traditional looking guide setup and gets me about 90% of what I need (no MLB, NBA, etc). For the VOD channels, I use an antenna and pickup CBS, FOX, NBC, ABC and a few others and the quality is as good, if not better than what you get streaming. It is a bit of a pain in the ass if reception is an issue and having to flip between video sources, but it gets the job done.
     
  2. Bigpupp

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    Have you looked into Philo? We combined YouTube TV with Philo and it has everything we need. We're paying $1 more per month than we were for Direct TV Now (and about $50 less than before we cut the cord) and the service is much much better.
     
  3. glennhoffmania

    glennhoffmania but still failing Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I haven't looked at Philo. I'll check it out. Thanks.
     
  4. Joe Sixpack

    Joe Sixpack Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    That looks promising, seems to fill in the gaps from YouTube TV pretty nicely. $56/month for both.
     
  5. glennhoffmania

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    What specifications do I need to make sure my internet connection has to be able to stream without issues? I don't think speed will be an issue as I usually get around 200mbps but are there bandwidth issues? We have a lot of devices on my wifi and a Spectrum rep once warned me about having too many things going at once if I start streaming (of course they probably don't want me watching anything but their cable). So if I had two tvs going and had some mobile devices connected as well for non-streaming stuff how do I figure out if my network can handle that?
     
  6. tims4wins

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    I don’t think it will be an issue at all. You need to have like 10+ going maybe more for it to be an issue.
     
  7. glennhoffmania

    glennhoffmania but still failing Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    That was my guess but I was trying to confirm and I can't find anything about minimum requirements or what Spectrum supports. Not surprisingly their web side is fucking awful.
     
  8. Dernells Casket n Flagon

    Dernells Casket n Flagon Member SoSH Member

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  9. ElcaballitoMVP

    ElcaballitoMVP Member SoSH Member

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    I don't message for details. Details message me.
     
  10. Caspir

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  11. LoweTek

    LoweTek Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    The law is pretty clear on the legality of either providing or receiving IPTV content for which the originator of the stream (e.g. NESN) has not been compensated. For the receiver it's really no different from Pirate Bay, torrents or other means of streaming copyrighted content at little or no cost. The IPTV provider is clearly acting illegally. He's delivering licensed or copyrighted content for which he has paid no compensation to the owner.

    I'm assuming everyone knows this and is willing to take their chances. Que sera sera. I'm not doing it.
     
  12. Bertha

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    I’m in the midst of a 2-week YouTube TV trial. I watch most sox, Celtics, and pats games, quite often on DVR. I am fairly happy with their DVR functionality so far. Primarily use any of 3 devices. TV with built in apps, TV with roku, and older iPad. All somewhat different controls, but all worked well.

    Biggest draw for me, besides cost savings, is typical month involves about 4-5 nights in hotels in New England. I live in NH. Watched Tuesday’s Celtics-Cavs game late Tuesday/early Wednesday from hotel in Boston. (Parade was awesome Tuesday morning!)

    Two things not yet clear to me.
    Does recording run late if game goes beyond scheduled time?
    Will I be able to view a Sox game on NESN, or Celtics on NBCSB, while in a hotel outside of New England (No MLB or NBA package)?

    Thanks for any input you have.
     
  13. Scott Cooper's Grand Slam

    Scott Cooper's Grand Slam Member SoSH Member

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    Yes. I had the Eovaldi game on my DVR for awhile.

    No. You get access to regional sports networks based on your location. Those of us in the NESN broadcast radius get NESN at home. On the bright side, you can watch YES next time you’re in NYC.
     
  14. finnVT

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    Depends on the device. If you're using something without location services, or if you disable/block them, then it defaults to your home zip code. So if you're using Chrome, and block it when it asks for your location, it'll assume in NH (or perhaps wherever you were last, I'm not sure) and give you those channels.

    At least that's been my experience, though it's possible I'm misunderstanding why it works for me.
     
  15. johnmd20

    johnmd20 literally like ebola Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    I have Youtube TV and I live in NYC. I went to Cleveland for Thanksgiving and brought one of my Roku's and it didn't default to Cleveland's zip code. Thus, I was able to watch the Jets/Pats on CBS because that was airing in NY. It wasn't airing in Cleveland.

    I found that to be pretty convenient.
     
  16. bigq

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    This is a sneaky good trick. Thanks for the tip!
     
  17. Joe Sixpack

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    That's not correct, (edit: post 1013), with YouTube tv you keep the regional sports networks (NESN etc) while traveling. It's the local broadcast networks you will lose access to.

    I have no problem watching NESN from anywhere with the service.
     
  18. johnmd20

    johnmd20 literally like ebola Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Except, no, I went from NYC to Cleveland and I kept all the local networks and regional networks, as if I was in NYC. So it just sounds like every device must be different, depending on how serious they use location services.
     
  19. Batman Likes The Sox

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    A future question, perhaps: What is stopping something from YouTube TV from letting people pick whatever location they want for viewing, regardless of the location they're in? For example, maybe one day I want to watch the Boston channels, then I want to watch the local news in San Francisco, then local programming in the Dakotas to hear them talk like in Fargo.

    I understand that's complicated in terms of interface, maybe you click on a map and that channel lineup pops up, but if local people can watch local stuff, what are the hurdles before local people can watch anywhere stuff?
     
  20. Joe Sixpack

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    You have to go through a VPN to do that (which you can do... It's described up thread). I think they also limit you to a small handful of "home" network changes for the year.

    Edit: think I may have misread your question.

    Nothing is stopping them from doing so from a technical perspective, but they have to sign agreements with each local broadcast affiliate to be able to carry them and I suspect something is tied in there with those contracts.
     
  21. Joe Sixpack

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    What device was this on? That's not been my experience with either phone or laptop, so that's interesting.

    When I travel it produces a pop up when I open up the app that says something like, hey, we noticed you're outside your home area, you can keep your regional sports networks but you won't be able to access the local broadcast networks.
     
  22. Vinho Tinto

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    It must be a device thing. Whenever my family visits our parents in Massachusetts, the locals switch from Maine to Worcester or Springfield.

    EDIT: As the pop states when you visit an out of market area, the DVR continues to record your home market programming. So I still have my local news recodings despite not being in the area.

    Big fan of YouTube TV. As long as they can hold the price, I’ll be a subscriber.
     
  23. johnmd20

    johnmd20 literally like ebola Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    The Roku Ultra. It's not an old device, but it wasn't a tablet or laptop. That's probably why it worked.

    Frankly, I regret not checking my laptop while I was in Cleveland to see if it worked the same. I'll admit, when it happened, I was shocked. I assumed the location would automatically update. That definitely did not happen, it was a nice surprise.
     
  24. orgoman

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    A lot depends on the device. I have found that - as mentioned upthread - it depends on whether location tracking is enabled on your device. For computers, phones, ipads - YouTubeTV will not work unless you have the location tracking turned on. It's part of the program. But Roku does not have location as part of the device. So once you "set" the location (through the initial set-up, or using a different device in a specific area) it stays linked to that location. Yet another reason why I love my Roku.

    Or at least this is what I surmise from the last year or so of using it.

    Hope that helps
     
  25. finnVT

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    I live in Pittsburgh, but set my youtube tv account up while visiting family in VT last summer. I get all VT channels (CBS/ABC/NBC/Fox, NESN, NBC sports Boston, etc) on our Rokus here (two older ones and one newer one). When I access on my phone I get local Pittsburgh networks. Web browser can go either way-- if I deny location services, I get VT channels, if I allow them, I get Pittsburgh stuff. It's been that way for ~9 months now (though I have accessed it from VT a few times in between while visiting there, so that may keep the VT zip code "active", I'm not sure).
     
  26. acf69

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    Moving back to the US after 10-years, and this time to the Greenwich CT area. This thread is very helpful, as I find the TV-packages (cable & directv) way overpriced. I like the YouTube/Philo combination very enticing, not sure what I would be missing. Sports packages I can buy separate if needed. My biggest concern will be internet speed, any experiences from people living in the same area?
     

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