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canderson said:
God please no.
Patterson has been pretty coy about the process so far, but did say one interesting thing, remarking a few days ago that while there was a lot of interest in the Texas HC position, much of it was the "I'll say I'm interested so my current employers will give me a raise and an extension" type of inquiries. So while Mora's name might pop up in the search process, he seems no more likely a candidate than anyone. I think Patterson is vetting every single potential coach so he can demonstrate that he has been as thorough as possible once he announces the hire (which I believe has already been agreed to behind the scenes).
 

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Kremlin Watcher said:
Patterson has been pretty coy about the process so far, but did say one interesting thing, remarking a few days ago that while there was a lot of interest in the Texas HC position, much of it was the "I'll say I'm interested so my current employers will give me a raise and an extension" type of inquiries. So while Mora's name might pop up in the search process, he seems no more likely a candidate than anyone. I think Patterson is vetting every single potential coach so he can demonstrate that he has been as thorough as possible once he announces the hire (which I believe has already been agreed to behind the scenes).
Interesting. Who do you think they're offering?
 
Edit: Patterson's done a pretty great job of keeping the search extremely quiet.
 

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Patterson has been pretty coy about the process so far, but did say one interesting thing, remarking a few days ago that while there was a lot of interest in the Texas HC position, much of it was the "I'll say I'm interested so my current employers will give me a raise and an extension" type of inquiries. So while Mora's name might pop up in the search process, he seems no more likely a candidate than anyone. I think Patterson is vetting every single potential coach so he can demonstrate that he has been as thorough as possible once he announces the hire (which I believe has already been agreed to behind the scenes).
 
 
I agree. I think it is Jimbo Fisher at FSU.
 

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I have no real idea of who they are going to hire. The Texas boards are on fire, with speculation centering on Strong, Briles and Fisher as the leaders in the clubhouse. But the signal-to-noise ratio is very, very low and most of it is wishful thinking and plain old message board trolling. In a totally non-scientific poll on my Texas football board, I voted for the field ahead of all the obvious names. But my guess is that it is already a done deal, I just don't have any idea of who it is. I think Patterson is simply executing a process that will allow him to demonstrate that he was thorough.
 

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Briles released a statement this morning he's not interviewing anywhere and will not leave Baylor. You can't trust many coaches but Briles - you can trust him. Sucks as I wanted him coaching at DKR Memorial. :(
 

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Briles released a statement this morning he's not interviewing anywhere and will not leave ESPN. You can't trust many coaches but Briles - you can trust him. Sucks as I wanted him coaching at DKR Memorial. :(
Art Briles works at ESPN?
 

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ESPN just broke in and said LA times reporting that Mora is committed to UCLA
 

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That would give them a good jump on setting a staff and recruiting. We'll probably see the dominoes fall quickly after Texas and Penn State are full.
 
The new dead period ends the 15th or 16th; previously it ended earlier. So it's a big advantage to the early movers if they can get their staffs in place and ready to recruit, and re-recruit commitments, on day one, while other schools are still doing their coaching searches.
 

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If Patterson hires James Franklin I may never watch another game. What a clown show this hiring process is.
 
What is the hatred of Franklin?   Smart guy who has done a good job at Vanderbilt, which was almost unthinkable
 
Strong has a better record at Louisville, but Louisville has won a lot the past 15 years,  and his teams the last 2 years have had some dud games.  Maybe the UCF loss this year can be forgiven,  the back to back losses to Syracuse and UConn last year was just an inexcusable collapse
 

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Overarching boosters, politics, and the Texas-Football-is-the-center-of-the-universe mentality make the job less attractive than UT fans think it is. Look at the Mack clusterfuck. I doubt guys are lining up to get thrown into that.

Considering Strong is probably waiting out Will Muschamp, Franklin is likely the best they're going to get unless they gamble and throw stupid money at a hot-name coordinator. 
 

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What is the hatred of Franklin?   Smart guy who has done a good job at Vanderbilt, which was almost unthinkable
 
Strong has a better record at Louisville, but Louisville has won a lot the past 15 years,  and his teams the last 2 years have had some dud games.  Maybe the UCF loss this year can be forgiven,  the back to back losses to Syracuse and UConn last year was just an inexcusable collapse
No hate for him, but Franklin's resume just doesn't justify hiring him as HC at Texas. 23-15 in three years at Vandy doesn't cut it. Plus there's the whole weird hot wife standard stuff.
 
Texas has fucked up the HC hiring pretty good several times (Akers, McWilliams, Mackovic), so I have no confidence that the conflicting forces at work will result in hiring the right person. I am concerned about the dysfunction that seems to be apparent in the process of finding a new HC: big money donors fucking up the process by inserting their personal choices into the process; some strange committee that seems never to have met; Patterson not telling anyone anything; the mess over Mack's departure indicating that Patterson may not have as much stick as he needs to clean house - the list goes on. 
 
I'd be fine with Strong, or Fisher. But I have no confidence at all that the current process will result in Texas hiring the best coach. My fear is that there are so many moving parts, so many dumbshits with money and influence interfering in the process, that we end up scaring off the best prospects and settle on someone like McWilliams who delivers a lot of love to big money donors and another 5-loss season.
 
Texas keeps sending me requests for money for the alumni fund. I send notes back saying "fix the athletics program and I'll send you something." It may be a while before I donate to Texas again.
 

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Enjoy Louisville's corpse in the coming years, ACC.
 
Louisville will be fine. 
 
Since the start of the 2000 season Louisville has won 9 game 8 times,   They have won 11 games 5 times.   They have won 11 games with 4 different coaches.  Charlie String didn't build it,  and I don't see the program falling apart without him.
 
Louisville has invested 150+ million in facilities for the football program in recent years,  I have no doubt their next coach will be someone they hire with a track record in the 2.5 to 3.5 million range
 
They will be just fine,  unless they hire Steve Kragthorpe again
 

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Pat Forde said Louisville football staff meeting at 9 am. Nothing definitive yet.
These coaches are just too funny. Between the alibi set up for BOB and now Strong reportedly upset at empty seats at confirmed sell outs in Louisville.

This profession is the best. Just say you're a mercenary and looking for continued advancement. Why the need to rip everything you leave behind to give yourself an out.

Reminds me of when TOB left BC. Sure he was pushed out but felt the need to talk about the ceiling of 8 wins at BC and how the restrictions would be lifted in NCST. Oops ... How'd that work out.

Move along quietly folks. No one believes you anyway.
 

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Charlie Strong and Texas are deep in negotiations to make him the next head coach in Austin. Texas has offered Strong a five-year, $25-million contract to be the next head coach of the Longhorns, according to a source.
One potential issue could be Strong's buyout at Louisville, which is more than $4.3 million. Tax assistance from the buyout would be more than $1 million.
"I would just say that discussions are ongoing," said a source with knowledge of the negotiations.
The general compensation of the contract -- years and salary -- does not appear to be an issue. But that could change depending on what happens with a potential buyout.
Texas athletic director Steve Patterson encountered something similar when he was at Arizona State. When Patterson served as the COO of Arizona State's athletic department, ASU attempted to hire SMU coach June Jones. The deal fell apart during negotiations over tax issues related to Jones' $2.1 million buyout. Patterson then essentially took over the coaching search and hired Pittsburgh coach Todd Graham.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20140104/texas-longhorns-charlie-strong-negotiations-louisville/#ixzz2pRkVtyfn
 

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Patterson has to thinking that Strong can complement the Texas recruiting base with Florida, that there will be a stream of Teddy Bridgewaters heading to Austin. Those could be some monster recruiting classes.

Patterson also has to be thinking that Strong can win enough games to compensate for decidedly not-Mack-Brown persona. Strong's first few appearances on the Longhorn Network should be awkward fun.
 

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Our long national nightmare finally ends. Welcome to the 40 Acres Coach Strong. Pretty excited about this hire. Spring football is about to get interesting again in Austin.
 

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Our long national nightmare finally ends. Welcome to the 40 Acres Coach Strong. Pretty excited about this hire. Spring football is about to get interesting again in Austin.
I just hope he can bring is a great OC and recruit Texas well vs Sumlin.
 

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So how big of deal is it in Texas that Red McCombs hates the Strong hire? He was on radio and San Antonio and just bashed the hiring of Strong. According to article he has donated over 100 million to the school.
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/red-mccombs-bashes-texas-hire/t/story?id=21449215&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

 
 
Longtime booster Red McCombs is not a fan of Texas' decision to hire coach Charlie Strong away from Louisville, calling it a "kick in the face" during a radio interview Monday.
 "I think the whole thing is a bit sideways," McCombs said of the selection process during an interview with ESPN 1250 San Antonio. "I don't have any doubt that Charlie is a fine coach. I think he would make a great position coach, maybe a coordinator.
"But I don't believe [he belongs at] what should be one of the three most powerful university programs in the world right now at UT-Austin. I don't think it adds up."
McCombs, the former owner of the San Antonio Spurs, Denver Nuggets and Minnesota Vikings and co-founder of Clear Channel Communications, said on "The Blitz with Dat Nguyen and Jason Minnix" that he was stunned to learn Strong was the choice to replace Mack Brown.
 

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Dan Murfman said:
So how big of deal is it in Texas that Red McCombs hates the Strong hire?

 
 
He says dumb shit all the time. The "Red McCombs is a senile P.O.S." thread has a little traction on 247 but not much.
 

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So how big of deal is it in Texas that Red McCombs hates the Strong hire?
None. There are maybe five serious Texas fans that are unhappy with Strong, but that's because they're old, rich and white, weren't asked for their permission to hire him, and won't get to hang out with the Texas head coach any more.
 
But the rest of us are pretty damn pleased at both the Strong hire and the changing culture in the Texas Athletics Department. Time to get rid of the boosters and introduce accountability. All hail Steve Patterson!
 

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None. There are maybe five serious Texas fans that are unhappy with Strong, but that's because they're old, rich and white, weren't asked for their permission to hire him, and won't get to hang out with the Texas head coach any more.
 
But the rest of us are pretty damn pleased at both the Strong hire and the changing culture in the Texas Athletics Department. Time to get rid of the boosters and introduce accountability. All hail Steve Patterson!
He better fire Barnes.