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Champions League Final - Heavy Metal & Los Merengues

Discussion in 'Breakfast with Gazza (with Sachmoneious Bullcrap)' started by 67YAZ, May 3, 2018.

  1. 67YAZ

    67YAZ Member SoSH Member

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    May 26! I’m already a ball of nerves. Cannot wait.

    The big question here is, how will Madrid line up? I’ve been looking at Zidane’s 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 set ups, and both seem to have real gaps that Liverpool can exploit especially if Carvajal is still out.

    That said, as awesome as TAA has been, dealing with Ronaldo and Marcelo is another level, especially if Salah stays high to try to exploit the space Marcelo leaves. If Wijnaldum is asked to slide over and help cover the flank, Benzema or Isco might be able to make a lot of trouble in the middle.

    But really, who knows? It’s going to bombastic and my gut tells me Liverpool will be up 2 with a half hour to go...and I can’t imagine being in a more nerve wracking spot.
     
  2. Dernells Casket n Flagon

    Dernells Casket n Flagon Member SoSH Member

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    The only thing that seems likely is that it will be high scoring. Seems like the goal O/U needs to be set at 7.5.
     
  3. allstonite

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    Is Liverpool expected to have some of their midfield depth back by then? I know Lallana travelled to Rome and has been in some training sessions but he didn't make the bench yesterday. I would hope he would be back. Ox is out long term but will Can be ready? I'd be fine with the same lineup but having some depth with more experience on the bench would be nice.
     
  4. BCsMightyJoeYoung

    BCsMightyJoeYoung Member SoSH Member

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    I think Klopp indicated Lallana should probably be available against Chelsea and definitely against Brighton. He was more iffy concerning Can.
     
  5. koufax32

    koufax32 He'll cry if he wants to... SoSH Member

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    Never thought I’d be this disappointed to be missing Ox.
     
  6. Zososoxfan

    Zososoxfan Member SoSH Member

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    Varane ruled out of the final. That is absolutely immense. Other than Modric, I think this is the biggest lost that could've happened. Ronaldo would've also been a huge loss obviously, but with Asensio, Isco, Benz, Bale, etc. the attack can survive. At the pivot both Casemiro and Kovacic are serviceable (although Casemiro is still better IMO). Varane is incredibly talented, skilled, and fast. Him and Ramos have formed an excellent partnership. Lots of defensive drilling against fast players the next few weeks.
     
  7. PedroSpecialK

    PedroSpecialK Comes at you like a tornado of hair and the NHL sa Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    That's a break for Liverpool. Guessing it's Nacho Fernandez in his place?
     
  8. fletcherpost

    fletcherpost sosh's feckin' poet laureate Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Lovren scares me. He has performance anxiety. he's improved having VVD around him but he still gets overly mobile in certain situations. I can see Liverpool scoring in the final, but I'm not sure they know how to take the sting out of a game. It's not easy. But it's doable.

    A few years ago Walter Smith got a fairly average Rangers team to the final of the Uefa Cup. He was a master at smothering the life out of a game. It's not a case of changing the natural way a team plays but there are things you can do...and it can be very effective. When Leicester won the league they were really good at it too.

    When the other team are pressing for an advantage cos they need to score, always have options in your own third or half, and never be afraid to put the ball out for a throw in. It's amazing how often the team with the throw in loses possession after the throw in has been made.

    Too often i see players clear the ball by punting it outfield...i think it is always better to punt it diagonally forwards towards towards the throw in line and out. Basic game management can go a long way. I think Liverpool can score twice against any team, Madrid are no exception.
     
  9. 67YAZ

    67YAZ Member SoSH Member

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    That does change things a good bit for Zidane. Time and again I see Ramos sweeping up behind Marcelo while Varane covers the middle. A team can only rely on their CBs like that when the pair have great trust, communication, and world class athleticism. Nacho is no slouch, but against Liverpool is Salah bombing down the left, Firmino crashing the box, and Mané cutting into the back post. That’s a tall order, particularly is Lucas Vasquez is still subbing in at RB.

    If I’m Zidane, I’d lean toward the 4-3-3 to get both Modric and Kroos in the game. Those two have the skill to consistently counter Liverpool’s press, whether it’s quick short passes or balls over the top. But this would mean no Isco, giving Liverpool a man advantage in the midfield & contesting things even further.

    Or maybe this isn’t a chess match at all, more of a good old fashioned rock fight.
     
  10. Zososoxfan

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    Even in a 4-4-2, those two will be included in the XI. In fact, other than Ramos, Marcelo, and Ronaldo, they are the two easiest to slot in.
     

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