Yeah, not to beat this horse to death, but his flops prior to this year were really egregious: check it out on YouTube. He was notable in a league of floppers for being a big-time flopper.
I still love the man.
Celtics vs. the Lebronaires
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I still love the man.
That line sounds about right. But if his supporting cast plays like it has the other 3 games in Boston the Celtics win.
The Love injury is the best thing that could have happened for Cleveland. I think they win fairly easily.
I'm tempted to take the over on that line. But, in Boston, even that may not be enough.
Ooooh! A Jeff Green fan!
Love scored 53 points in 3 games in Boston this series. Other than LeBron, only Hill (61) and Korver (57) have scored more in the entire SERIES, let alone in Boston (those two combined for just 38 points in 3 games in Boston). Love's replacement, Green, has scored just 20 points in 3 games in Boston.
Cleveland might very well win, and replacing him with someone else improves their defense slightly. But make no mistake, this is a huge hit to their offense and a definite net loss.
Have you seen the numbers when Love is off the court in this series?
The big thing with Love is it takes him off Horford, who was killing him. James , Green and Nance did a much better job defensively on Horford.
The big thing with Love is it takes him off Horford, who was killing him. James , Green and Nance did a much better job defensively on Horford.
Honest question - at what point when you’re typing have you thought anyone actually wants to hear your doomsday scenarios you pulled out of your ass? Go to the game thread if you want to spout nonsense. This is a Celtics thread.
I have. I don't remember the exact figures, but the only reason Cleveland was positive when he was off was because of game 6 - when Love went out Cleveland was down 4, and the ended up winning by 10. On/off numbers are super susceptible to SSS, and that's it. He's the only Cav to consistently show up in Boston (other than LeBron), and he's been the Cav's second best player by any conceivable measurement this year, by a lot. It's one game and anything can happen but this is a huge hit to their offense.
That was like the outtakes from an action movie where you see the angles they didn't use and can tell that the actors aren't actually hitting each other.
Up 4 at the half but I don't feel good about this game. I'd much prefer the defensive holes that Love presents than the Cavs defense we've seen in the first half. I'm holding my breath on this one.
Rozier's final game as a Celtic sure won't go down as one of his finer moments.
If Smart plays well we may not see Rozier return. This will be a crucial Brad decision.
Cleveland’s starters have played 160 of 180 minutes thus far. I think that’s basically the Celtics’ one chance to pull this out. Wear them down.
The Celtics, though, played the third like they had nothing left in the tank and no confidence in their own game. That won’t do it.
The Celtics, though, played the third like they had nothing left in the tank and no confidence in their own game. That won’t do it.
Coach of the Year!!!!
The decision that cost us a chance at a trip to The Finals.
I mean he had two guys who could hit shots. Which one of his choke artists he decided to put in didn’t matter.
Yup. 2-21 combined from Rozier and Brown outside the arch, many of which were splendid looks.
The outcome of this game was basically obvious when the Celtics, as is their habit, took a quarter off.
This was an old, mostly toothless Cleveland team that a sustained, wire to wire effort in either game 6 or game 7 would have beaten.
But this Celtics team, in the end, didn’t have the mental toughness to do that.
I suppose that’s not a horrible thing. No one expected this team, minus Hayward and Irving, to still be alive with a shot at the finals late into the 4th quarter in game 7.
But it is still frustrating when, short handed as they were, they had the talent to fucking win this series and they didn’t.
This was way more “Boston loses” than “Cleveland wins”.
This was an old, mostly toothless Cleveland team that a sustained, wire to wire effort in either game 6 or game 7 would have beaten.
But this Celtics team, in the end, didn’t have the mental toughness to do that.
I suppose that’s not a horrible thing. No one expected this team, minus Hayward and Irving, to still be alive with a shot at the finals late into the 4th quarter in game 7.
But it is still frustrating when, short handed as they were, they had the talent to fucking win this series and they didn’t.
This was way more “Boston loses” than “Cleveland wins”.
An NBA coach is only as good as his players but what Rozier did down the stretch was more about forcing bad shots which is the same poor decision making he showed the entire game. Hated seeing him return to the game. Felt it was biggest decision of game bringing him back in.
He didn’t come in for Smart, though. And the Celtics didn’t have 5 guys they could trust. Horford, Tatum, and Smart are only 3. Hard to win on that situation, but they gave the game away in the third.
Oh well. Another clutch LeBron performance pulling victory out of thin air. I guess this is how Patriots' opponents must feel about Tom Brady.
Awkward interview of Ty Lue by Doris Burke: "Given the circumstances, some might say this was LeBron's greatest achievement ... what do you think?"
Translation: "That whole team of guys standing behind you celebrating totally sucks. It's a miracle that you pulled this off."
Translation: "That whole team of guys standing behind you celebrating totally sucks. It's a miracle that you pulled this off."
Vastly exceeded all reasonable expectations. A Finals visit would have been nice. For the experience. Because unless a bus crashes or a plane goes down, they are not taking 4 of 7 from the Warriors or the Rockets. “You never know ...” — stop .. we know ...
A finals appearance, even in being swept, would have represented a changing of the guard in the EC, and would have given us first crack at it. We blew it
Oh wtf. The Celtics could not score. The subbing in of Rozier for Brown made no difference to the outcome of this game.
Subbing out Brown after he missed his umpteenth wide open look and generally seemed too keyed up the entire game was not unwise.
I didn't think they would get out of the 1st round so it's pretty shocking to see that some people think they choked.
Really missed Kyrie. People were hesitating about what they should do and it cost them. They played their hearts out but as good as JT has been, they didn't have a guy like LBJ, Harden, KD, Curry, etc.
it was absolutely accurate. They weren’t up to it. Excusable in a team lacking its two best offensive players, but what was left was a team not ready to win.
Since 1984, every NBA championship team has had at least one player who was a teammate of Shaq. The Cavs are the last remaining team to have one of Shaq’s teammates on their roster. I guess it was meant to be? Go Warriors/Rockets!
1984 (Celtics) — George Kite (Magic, 1994)
1985 (Lakers) — Byron Scott (Lakers, 1997)
1986 (Celtics) — George Kite (Magic, 1994)
1987 (Lakers) — A.C. Green (Lakers, 2000)
1988 (Lakers) — A.C. Green (Lakers, 2000)
1989 (Pistons) —Dennis Rodman (Lakers, 1999)
1990 (Pistons) — John Salley (Lakers, 2000)
1991 (Bulls) — Horace Grant (Lakers, 2004)
1992 (Bulls) — Horace Grant (Lakers, 2004)
1993 (Bulls) — Horace Grant (Lakers, 2004)
1994 (Rockets) — Robert Horry (Lakers, 2003)
1995 (Rockets) — Robert Horry (Lakers, 2003)
1996 (Bulls) — Steve Kerr (Magic, 1993)
1997 (Bulls) — Ron Harper (Lakers, 2001)
1998 (Bulls) — Ron Harper (Lakers, 2001)
1999 (Spurs) — Steve Kerr (Magic, 1993)
2000 (Lakers)* — Kobe Bryant (Lakers, 2004)
2001 (Lakers)* — Tyronn Lue (Lakers, 2001)
2002 (Lakers)* — Rick Fox (Lakers, 2004)
2003 (Spurs) — Steve Kerr (Magic, 1993)
2004 (Pistons) — Lindsey Hunter (Lakers, 2002)
2005 (Spurs) — Robert Horry (Lakers, 2003)
2006 (Heat)* — Dwyane Wade (Heat, 2008)
2007 (Spurs) — Robert Horry (Lakers, 2003)
2008 (Celtics) — Paul Pierce (Celtics, 2011)
2009 (Lakers) — Derek Fisher (Lakers, 2004)
2010 (Lakers) — Luke Walton (Lakers, 2004)
2011 (Mavericks) —Sasha Pavlovic (Celtics, 2011)
2012 (Heat) — Udonis Haslem (Heat, 2008)
2013 (Heat) — Ray Allen (Celtics, 2011)
2014 (Spurs) — Boris Diaw (Suns, 2009)
2015 (Warriors) — Leandro Barbosa (Suns, 2009)
2016 (Cavaliers) — LeBron James (Cavaliers, 2010)
2017 (Warriors) — Matt Barnes (2009, Suns)
*Shaq was part of that Championship team
1984 (Celtics) — George Kite (Magic, 1994)
1985 (Lakers) — Byron Scott (Lakers, 1997)
1986 (Celtics) — George Kite (Magic, 1994)
1987 (Lakers) — A.C. Green (Lakers, 2000)
1988 (Lakers) — A.C. Green (Lakers, 2000)
1989 (Pistons) —Dennis Rodman (Lakers, 1999)
1990 (Pistons) — John Salley (Lakers, 2000)
1991 (Bulls) — Horace Grant (Lakers, 2004)
1992 (Bulls) — Horace Grant (Lakers, 2004)
1993 (Bulls) — Horace Grant (Lakers, 2004)
1994 (Rockets) — Robert Horry (Lakers, 2003)
1995 (Rockets) — Robert Horry (Lakers, 2003)
1996 (Bulls) — Steve Kerr (Magic, 1993)
1997 (Bulls) — Ron Harper (Lakers, 2001)
1998 (Bulls) — Ron Harper (Lakers, 2001)
1999 (Spurs) — Steve Kerr (Magic, 1993)
2000 (Lakers)* — Kobe Bryant (Lakers, 2004)
2001 (Lakers)* — Tyronn Lue (Lakers, 2001)
2002 (Lakers)* — Rick Fox (Lakers, 2004)
2003 (Spurs) — Steve Kerr (Magic, 1993)
2004 (Pistons) — Lindsey Hunter (Lakers, 2002)
2005 (Spurs) — Robert Horry (Lakers, 2003)
2006 (Heat)* — Dwyane Wade (Heat, 2008)
2007 (Spurs) — Robert Horry (Lakers, 2003)
2008 (Celtics) — Paul Pierce (Celtics, 2011)
2009 (Lakers) — Derek Fisher (Lakers, 2004)
2010 (Lakers) — Luke Walton (Lakers, 2004)
2011 (Mavericks) —Sasha Pavlovic (Celtics, 2011)
2012 (Heat) — Udonis Haslem (Heat, 2008)
2013 (Heat) — Ray Allen (Celtics, 2011)
2014 (Spurs) — Boris Diaw (Suns, 2009)
2015 (Warriors) — Leandro Barbosa (Suns, 2009)
2016 (Cavaliers) — LeBron James (Cavaliers, 2010)
2017 (Warriors) — Matt Barnes (2009, Suns)
*Shaq was part of that Championship team