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If you were to rank-order all of humanity on "extent to which you should listen to their opinions on Bill Belichick", I'm pretty sure Casserly would rank second-to-last, ahead only of Ron Borges.

It was just a bizarre-seeming choice to me, is all.
Again, he didn't WRITE the column, which I was referencing. I didn't even watch the video. But in focusing on that, you lump the column in with it. If you don't get the problem with doing so, there's little anyone can say to help you
 

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Again, he didn't WRITE the column, which I was referencing. I didn't even watch the video. But in focusing on that, you lump the column in with it. If you don't get the problem with doing so, there's little anyone can say to help you
Bedard's article was fine, if a bit bland and cliche-laden. But I wasn't talking about the article. That's why I began my post with the words, "Did you see the video they attached to that article?".

Where exactly did I "lump the column in with" the video? What criticism did I make of the column? Why are we even talking about this? Unless you're Charley Casserly's blood relative, I said nothing controversial. If you don't get that people usually define the subject of their remarks by using descriptive nouns, there's little anyone can say to help you.
 

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Bedard's article was fine, if a bit bland and cliche-laden. But I wasn't talking about the article. That's why I began my post with the words, "Did you see the video they attached to that article?".

Where exactly did I "lump the column in with" the video? What criticism did I make of the column? If you don't get that people usually define the subject of their remarks by using descriptive nouns, there's little anyone can say to help you.
You lumped the video in with the column by replying to my original post by focusing only on the video. First you ignore what another poster brings attention to, then follow it up by calling it bland and cliche-ridden.

Yet another example of an old SoSH truism ... you can change your user name, but it doesn't mean it will improve your posting ability.
 

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You brought up X. I brought up Y, which I discovered by going to / reading X. I found Y to be odd and slightly amusing, and thought the board would as well. Remarking on it does not require remarking upon X. It also doesn't mean I "ignored" X (if anything, that's impossible - I mean, I said I found the video by reading the article), just that I had no thoughts on it worth posting.

This is a bizarre choice of windmill to tilt at, and has taken far too much of the board's time. I'm done here.
 

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Thanks for posting. This was my favorite item in there:

So yes, that competitiveness is a huge part of who Tom Brady is.

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This is a guy who, when the schedule came during the off-season, would identify the defensive coordinator for each of our opponents and start looking back at film from everywhere that coordinator had coached in the previous five years — just to study tendencies and get a step ahead before the season started. That’s how dedicated he is to his craft.
That ain't cheating...that's just wanting it more and working harder than the next guy.
 

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If you were to rank-order all of humanity on "extent to which you should listen to their opinions on Bill Belichick", I'm pretty sure Casserly would rank second-to-last, ahead only of Ron Borges.

It was just a bizarre-seeming choice to me, is all.
This is absolutely true. Remember this?

“Who’s been wrong more than Charley Casserly since he left the Redskins? His percentage is like a meteorologist,” Belichick said.

“He has no relationship to this team. I’d say less than zero. Based on what? He’s never at a practice, never at a game,” Belichick said before getting into a discussion of sports media practices in general.
Source: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/04/belichick-whos-been-been-wrong-more-than-charlie-casserly/
 

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Yep, quite a roasting, up there with his 1995 remarks about Marv Levy running a Wing-T offense.

Some other fun facts I got from playing with the Tom Brady career gamelog:
  • When starting Tom Brady, the team has only been shut out twice: the Lawyer Milloy game week 1 of 2003, and @ Miami, week 13 of 2006 (21-0).
  • Tom Brady is 6-5 in one-point games, 3-2 in 2-point games, and 22-5 in 3-point games (!).
  • He has completed 80% or more of his passes 9 times in his career, including his 3rd career win at the Colts, when he went 16-for-20 with 3 TDs for a 148.3 passer rating.
  • Surprisingly, he only has two games with a perfect passer rating of 158.3: 2007 wk 7 at Miami (49-28), and 2010 wk 12 at Detroit (45-24). His 59-0 pasting of Jeff Fisher's Titans in 2009 only merited a 152.8, due to a mere 11.2 Y/A that game.
  • In his 6 career games where he took at least 5 sacks (including 7 against Buffalo in 2001), he is 5-1. That game against Buffalo also matched his highest career rushing total: 36 yards, on 4 attempts.
  • Teams Tom Brady has never lost to when starting: Chicago Bears, Atlanta Falcons, Dallas Cowboys, Detroit Lions (he didn't start in the 2000 game), Jacksonville Jaguars, Minnesota Vikings, Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
  • He is 26-3 against the Buffalo Bills. One of those losses was week 17 in 2014, in which he only played the first half.
 

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I found this Katie Nolan interview with Julian Edelman highly entertaining:


I'm sure there are lots of people who think Jules is kind of a douche, but I think his whole schtick is hilarious. There's been a criticism that Belichick doesn't allow his players to have personalities, but I think it's clear from Gronk, Jules, Marty, even Tom with his various forays into social media, that he's perfectly fine with them having fun and having personalities, as long as they never give any bulletin board material or talk out of school about internal plans of attack.
 

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I found this Katie Nolan interview with Julian Edelman highly entertaining:


I'm sure there are lots of people who think Jules is kind of a douche, but I think his whole schtick is hilarious. There's been a criticism that Belichick doesn't allow his players to have personalities, but I think it's clear from Gronk, Jules, Marty, even Tom with his various forays into social media, that he's perfectly fine with them having fun and having personalities, as long as they never give any bulletin board material or talk out of school about internal plans of attack.
this is awesome.

It seems that there's been a recent run of "softer" Patriot stories. Is it my imagination?
 
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When starting Tom Brady, the team has only been shut out twice: the Lawyer Milloy game week 1 of 2003, and @ Miami, week 13 of 2006 (21-0).
I was curious whether this was as impressive as it seems, so I went to the competition. Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees have never had their teams shut out in games they started. Roethlisberger's had the Steelers shut out twice in his starts; Favre's teams were shut out twice in his starts (both Packers).
 

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Yep, quite a roasting, up there with his 1995 remarks about Marv Levy running a Wing-T offense.

Some other fun facts I got from playing with the Tom Brady career gamelog:
  • Surprisingly, he only has two games with a perfect passer rating of 158.3: 2007 wk 7 at Miami (49-28), and 2010 wk 12 at Detroit (45-24). His 59-0 pasting of Jeff Fisher's Titans in 2009 only merited a 152.8, due to a mere 11.2 Y/A that game.
That's because it was snowing like a mo-fo that day.
 

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I was curious whether this was as impressive as it seems, so I went to the competition. Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees have never had their teams shut out in games they started. Roethlisberger's had the Steelers shut out twice in his starts; Favre's teams were shut out twice in his starts (both Packers).
Manning was shut out in the 2002 playoffs and he had a 3 point game.
 

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That 21-0 Miami win was the game in which the Dolphins allegedly purchased recordings of Brady's audibles.
Holy shit, I forgot about that. It's infuriating to read that article with the knowledge that Spygate would be coming just 9 months later. And fuck Don Shula.

The league's response? Pretty much a stifled yawn, since there is no rule prohibiting such film study.

"Reaction around the league office was, 'That's football,' " AFC spokesman Steve Alic said.

Despite the attention garnered by the story, most league observers dismissed the importance of whatever the Dolphins did and chose to attribute the shutout victory to superior execution.
 

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Sixth straight appearance in AFC Championship game. Let's make it 3-3 next week.
 

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Even on a night they played poorly they upset a terrible human being and the icon of the most scumbag franchise in the league. Brings a smile to my face.
 

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Six straight AFC Championship Game appearances.

Six!
I'm trying really really hard to remember the late 90s and making the trip up to foxboro from new york every sunday morning and sitting in that JV aluminum deathtrap hoping and praying Pete and Drew could win enough to get us a home playoff game. It feels like something I read about rather than lived. Now I dont bother making the trip unless it's the AFC championship or we're hanging a banner or its 12's first game back from a trumped up suspension. I'm pretty certain this is all proof of the simulated universe theory. Its the only thing that makes sense.
 

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11 AFC championship games for Brady for basically two different eras.

01, 03, 04, 06, 07 with the Bruschi, Law, Seymour era teams

11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 with the core of Wilfork, Butler, Hightower, Ninkovich era teams.

Wilfork, Brady and Ghostkowski are the only links to the two eras.
 

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I'm wondering how many personnel are still around from 2001. Belichick, Brady, the Kraft family. Dante. Ernie Adams? I'm sure there are more behind the scenes that most people (including me) don't know about.
 

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THEY HAVENT MISSED A CHAMIONSHIP GAME SINCE THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION!
 

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I'm wondering how many personnel are still around from 2001. Belichick, Brady, the Kraft family. Dante. Ernie Adams? I'm sure there are more behind the scenes that most people (including me) don't know about.
BB, Brian Daboll, Ivan Fears, Dante, Adams, Brady, Krafts
 

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11 AFC championship games for Brady for basically two different eras.

01, 03, 04, 06, 07 with the Bruschi, Law, Seymour era teams

11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 with the core of Wilfork, Butler, Hightower, Ninkovich era teams.

Wilfork, Brady and Ghostkowski are the only links to the two eras.
What a dark, bleak period that 2008-2010 drought was.

35-15. Brutal.
 

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Was just watching Inside the NFL, and they showed a clip of some white-bearded Dolphins assistant coach on the sidelines taking to the defense about Brady. He looks at the polaroids and says, in almost disbelief, "He's calling the right protection every fucking time."
Brutal for your players to hear your coach in disbelief.
 

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In this spirit of this thread, I'm taking time today to really appreciate how awesome it is to settle in to watch the other games knowing that my team is already in the AFCCG. And I'll get a little warm and fuzzy every time they put up the graphic showing the playoff bracket, with NE already inked in for next week. Here's to a nasty, cold, wet, draining game in KC tonight.
 

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Tom Brady now has as many playoff wins as the Washington Redskin and Denver Broncos franchises do. A win in the AFC Championship game would tie him with the New York Giants franchise. A win in the Super Bowl would tie him with the Oakland Raiders.

The Patriots have packed 50 years of winning tradition into 16 years. Every time I see something like this it just feels more absurd.
 

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Some nice BB porn, by Mr. Finn, in the Globe Magazine.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2017/01/16/the-debate-over-bill-belichick-greatest-nfl-coach-ever/iaoaQqEUWwd3yJRzKe96tJ/story.html

For me, the pull quote:

And that is also what Dungy says Chuck Noll did with his dynastic Steelers, sometimes to a fault. “[Noll’s mind-set was] ‘We’re going to do what we do, and we’re going to hone that so much that we’re going to be able to adjust to anything that anybody does.’ ’’

“The Patriots are exactly the opposite, and I don’t understand how they do it,” Dungy continues. They’ll play a 3-4 defense one week and 4-3 the next; one week they’ll be a blitzing team and the next it’s a completely different game plan. “That’s what’s amazing to me, to be able to execute and be on your fundamentals and still change approaches week in and week out. I have no idea how they do it, but that to me is the genius.”
To me, that was the contrast with the Seahawks. The Hawks were iron, the Pats were water.
 

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That's two of the three segments. It's a weekly show on FS1 called NFL Films Presents and Katie hosts it. Goes on the road most weeks and has fan interactions. Rebroadcast this coming Sat or Sun AM, IIRC. Ep is called Patriot Games or similar.
 

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Brady has played 15 full seasons (excluding '08) and has made 11 conference championship games.

This run is just so otherworldly I still can't believe it sometimes.
 

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Brady has played 15 full seasons (excluding '08) and has made 11 conference championship games.

This run is just so otherworldly I still can't believe it sometimes.
Yup. 2002 and 2009. Those are the only 2 years where Brady was healthy, the starter, and failed to make the Divisional Round. Most franchises would kill for a Divisional Round appearance and that's basically been his starting off point.
 

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It is.

I never even really thought about this before...is Matthew Slater a HoFer?
Steve Tasker is not, and while Slater is building the resume to surpass him (he now has six all-pro selections to Tasker's five) many today think of Tasker as the 'test case' on a special team making the Hall.

So, worthwhile question but still unlikely.