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Discussion in 'Blinded by the Lombardis: Patriots Forum' started by mwonow, Sep 14, 2015.

  1. mwonow

    mwonow Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    I was actually trying to remember where I saw a king-fu (or Zen?) master snatch a fly out of the air with chopsticks, just by listening to it flying. I think of Bill as being that in tune with speed and conditioning...
     
  2. SumnerH

    SumnerH Malt Liquor Picker Dope

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    Yeah, that was the aforementioned Mr. Miyagi in the Karate Kid.

     
  3. 8slim

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    What I recall about 2003 was how injured we were by week 4. I vividly remember thinking that if we could just go .500 until week 10 or 12, then we could get our guys back healthy again and make a late push. Of course, instead we didn't lose again for over a year. Being a Pats fan is fun.
     
  4. mwonow

    mwonow Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Thanks!
     
  5. lexrageorge

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    That 2003 team was one of my all time favorites. And, yes, the string of injuries they had at the start of the season was brutal. They lost their high-profile free agent signing, Rosevelt Colvin, to a season ending hip injury 2nd game of the season. Before you knew it, they had guys like Ty Warren, Eugene Wilson, Asante Samuel, and Dan Koppen playing major roles, all rookies from a draft that Borges once again badly panned.
     
  6. DennyDoyle'sBoil

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    If he doesn't make that kick, Tennessee gets great field position and has a good chance to tie or take the lead.

    In my memory I tend to conflate that kick with some of the Vinatieri's other kicks and tend to forget how much time there was left. Tennessee actually took the kickoff and marched right down the field to the Patriots 33 in 4 four plays -- right on the verge of field goal range. But Tennessee took two big penalties back to back -- grounding and holding -- and that effectively ended the game. I don't remember who got the pressure. Willie had two huge sacks to help stall Tennessee drives late in the game so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Willie.

    I didn't actually get to see that game live. Before that game was scheduled for Saturday night, I had promised my wife that we'd have dinner and see a movie to celebrate a significant work accomplishment she had achieved. She offered to let me out of it, but it was one of those moments where you realize that maybe someone is saying something but not really meaning it. I wonder if I would do the same today.

    Anyway, I have a clear memory of turning on the car radio to ESPN radio after the movie and having to wait until the update, which they did every 20 minutes, rolled around. I think the game had been 7-7 when the movie started. I think it took about 5 minutes to get the result. We sat in the parking lot, because I didn't want to be driving when I heard the result. I remember being surprised that there were only 31 points scored, given that both teams had scored so quick to start the game. Anyway, different times for sure. I remember when watching the game after on tape or tivo, after I knew the result, being surprised that it really ended up 17-14. That was a bizarre thing -- watching and wondering, when you know the result, how on earth is it going to end up that way.

    Edit: Now my mind is playing tricks on me. I think maybe I might be confusing things and that the game actually was late in the fourth quarter. Ah, who cares. The Patriots won it.
     
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  7. tims4wins

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    Drew Bennett really probably should have come down with that 4th down throw
     
  8. DrewDawg

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  9. simplyeric

    simplyeric aggressively nonsensical SoSH Member

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    I’m thinking either Kundun, or Empire Strikes Back training scene.

    Safe journey, and safe return...we’re on to Minnneapolis.

    There is no try, only do or do not...your job.

    (Edit: how is this not a T-shirt I can buy?)
     
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  10. simplyeric

    simplyeric aggressively nonsensical SoSH Member

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    Remember when this guy was our commander in chief?

     
  11. dcmissle

    dcmissle Deflatigator Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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  12. snowmanny

    snowmanny Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    DeShaun Watson saying the highlight of his year was going "toe to toe with Tom Brady"

    Around 0:55

    "And that last drive I think it was a two minute drive at the end of the game, I'm sitting there with Tom Savage and I'm like 'Yo, have you ever been in a situation where you've seen it on TV and you never thought it was going to happen to you, but you feel like it's about to happen to you?' "

     
  13. simplyeric

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    Well, going toe to toe with TB12 is quite a feat, but man, talk like that would get him benched if he played for Bill Belichick.
     
  14. Dr. Gonzo

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  16. Smiling Joe Hesketh

    Smiling Joe Hesketh All Hail King Boron Dope

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    That's odd, because I just checked Pro Football Reference and there was never a season in Cleveland with BB where the Browns were 2-7 at any point.
     
  17. Hagios

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    Great article, but I think it goes beyond Bill being a tough and detail oriented coach. I think a lot of football programs (at all levels) actively hurt themselves because there's such a strong mindset in promoting strength and explosiveness. I remember my old strength books, such as the one by Dr. Squat (first guy to squat over 1000 pounds), arguing against having football players run "to make a man out of them." They felt it was just making them slow and weak, and that view has become mainstream. I went to a very affluent high school and at the time their gym was filled with a hodgepodge of nautilus and free weights, but the squat machines were an afterthought and there wasn't even a power rack, let alone a place to do a power clean. I revisited the school recently and and the center of the weight room features a dozen beautiful Olympic lifting platforms with bumper plates. And on the wall is all the current lifting dogma warning players not to do sets of more than 3 reps.

    Yes, it's a high school so they're behind the times, but I think conversely Belichick is ahead of the times. If you're going to do 60+ seven second sprints then you can't train like a powerlifter.
     
  18. simplyeric

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    end of one season, beginning of next?
     
  19. Al Zarilla

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    You're assuming something there about Browns fan's ability to add.
     
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  21. Greenwells Sweat Bands

    Greenwells Sweat Bands Active Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    2000 Pats were 2-7 going into the game against Cleveland.
     
  22. Ed Hillel

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    He said this after the Superbowl last year.

    Two days ago, he was calling the Patriots cheaters, unlike other successful teams throughout history. Shannon Sharpe played on the 1996-1998 Broncos, the biggest cheaters in modern team sports history. Imagine a team nowadays getting an extra 42 million over the cap.
     
  23. Smiling Joe Hesketh

    Smiling Joe Hesketh All Hail King Boron Dope

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    Ah good catch.
     
  24. Reverend

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    Watching old Pats videos—I had forgotten that Brady was known as the Come Back Kid all the way back to college.

    In retrospect, perhaps everyone should have seen The Comeback coming, yes?
     
  25. simplyeric

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    When he did the thing about Brady doing ‘my greatness has to do with this [points at head] and this [points below bottom of screen]...’ I assumed he was pointing at his crotch.
    I feel like even if TB12 doesn’t have the most impressive dick at the combine, he surely must use it really really well.
     
  26. dcmissle

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  27. Al Zarilla

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    He can’t wear a conference championship ring. LOL, he kind of calls it a “participation ring”. If he sent me one, I’d wear it.
     
  28. Deathofthebambino

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    I was thinking this morning, when Tom Brady was a rookie, less than 50% of households had the internet, and even less than that had cell phones (camera's in cell phones wouldn't happen until like 3 years later). That's how long this Dynasty has reigned.
     
  29. pedro1918

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    When I worked in MiLB, Shag Crawford was the pitching coach. He wore his 1986 AL Champs ring a lot.

    It kind of pissed me off.
     
  30. Al Zarilla

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    Good, and I kind of have a cutoff with movies: old is pre-cell phones. If there is scene where someone has to get to a phone away from home, and they look for phone booth, so that’s old. We go back that far.
     
  31. Oppo

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    Also weird to think that there are guys on this team that were <10 years old at the time of Super Bowl 36
     
  32. Scott Cooper's Grand Slam

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    They’ll be back. They’ll lose talent on the field this offseason and suffer brain drain in the coaching staff. But this incredible run did not end last night.
     
  33. tims4wins

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    Whether or not Josh is back, he did a helluva job. No Gronk vs Jax and no Cooks last night. Hats off.
     
  34. Ralphwiggum

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    I mentioned this last night, but Tom Brady’s career stats in the Super Bowl (attempts, completions, yardage and TDs) have to be on a short list of modern records that will never be broken. In each category his career totals are more than the #2 and #3 guy on the list combined. He now has the #1 and #2 yardage games in SB history.

    Doesn’t make me feel any better about last night, but it’s another testament to how amazing this run has been.
     
  35. BaseballJones

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    Some people were worried about Tom Brady heading into the playoffs, after ending the season with a few subpar games in a row. I openly worried in this forum about him in the AFCCG. But look at his numbers during the playoffs:

    Opp (Defensive ranks): Stats
    vs Ten (#17 pts, #13 yds): 35-53, 337 yds, 3 td, 0 int
    vs Jax (#2 pts, #2 yds): 26-38, 290 yds, 2 td, 0 int
    vs Phi (#4 pts, #4 yds): 28-48, 505 yds, 3 td, 0 int
    TOT: 89-139 (64.0%), 1,132 yds (8.1 ypa), 8 td, 0 int

    I mean, the dude is 40 years old and he just absolutely SHREDDED three playoff defenses.
     
  36. Harry Hooper

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  37. Number45forever

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    Tom Brady is so great, it's getting beyond comprehension. Can't wait to watch him destroy the league with Edelman back for next season.

    That's all I have.
     
  38. Silverdude2167

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    Seriously, this is why I think I did not take the loss too hard.
    At this point, I am all about protecting the legacies, and this game just enhanced his. He was insane and probably would have won the game if not for one lucky swipe.
     
  39. Boston Brawler

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    Brady
    Edelman
    Gronk
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    Amendola

    Put a slightly improved defense on the field to allow those weapons to work.
     
  40. Number45forever

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    I'm REALLY excited to see an offense with Lewis, Edelman, Gronk, Cooks all healthy at the same time. They are going to score a fuckload of points if they get 12-14 games out of each of those four.
     
  41. streeter88

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    Defense was historically bad in the Super Bowl, and they still almost won.

    Hope for fully revamped defense to allow renewed domination in 2018.
     
  42. wiffleballhero

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    Yeah, it is hard not to be pretty optimistic about next year too. As I said at the end of the game, "well, I wonder who we get in the AFCCG next year." Maybe a little over confident, but I like the Pats chances.
     
  43. staz

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    As much as a gut punch/crash landing it is... for me, as a fan, it’s a little bit cleansing. All the conspiracy theories, all the b.s., the obsession with the relationships, the coach, the QB... I’m frankly glad it’s over. Of course, some of that’ll come back to a degree next season, but it won’t be so “31 teams versus the Patriots.” At least until #6 is hoisted in 363 days.
     
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    It is a bit cleansing. The animosity is just over the top. Hopefully we have reached the peak of the anti-Patriots rage.

    It would be great if my 11 year old could be a fan of a great team, not a team that cheats.
     
  45. DeadlySplitter

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    We took a hit as far as being head and shoulders above everyone else in the league. Especially from a coaching standpoint, that took a huge hit last night.

    But Tom's legacy really grew. Everyone thought he would go win the game despite everything because the 2nd half was perfect football on offense until the sack. Undisputed GOAT at this point. That is something to celebrate, no matter what the final total of rings is at this point.
     
  46. Reverend

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    I think they need more handsomeness on the defensive end of the field.
     
  47. BigSoxFan

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    Being in a Philly section, the fear of Brady in the 4th quarter was palpable. And if not for the strip sack, he probably gets it done with the way he had been going.
     
  48. Pandemonium67

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    It's a shame the D sucked so badly, the Pats ended up losing, and there's a Malcolm Butler controversy -- because it takes the spotlight away from what TB and the offense did. Over 600 yards against a highly rated defense, moving up and down the field almost at will, and without Cooks and Edelman. That performance was magnificent -- one of the best we've ever seen.

    No, they weren't perfect, but they were pretty damn close. If Josh McD does walk away, he can do so with head held high. That was a virtuoso performance by his offense.
     
  49. Ale Xander

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    Being able to tell people in Eagles gear "congrats on the first, it's the sweetest one" takes a little bit out of the sting out.
     
  50. SoxVindaloo

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    I'm with you, though I do wonder (echoing SN's thoughts n another thread) how much we can improve on D in the offseason. It is amazing when you can almost write a trip to the AFC CG in ink for this team next year.
     

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