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Bryce Brentz

Discussion in 'The Adopt a Prospect Forum' started by ypioca, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. ypioca

    ypioca Member SoSH Member

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    [SIZE=12pt]Bryce Brentz - OF[/SIZE]
    Born:
    December 30, 1988
    Knoxville, TN
    Height : 6-0
    Weight : 195
    Bats: Right
    Throws: Right
    Drafted : 1st round, 2010
    College: Middle Tennessee St
    High School: South Doyle HS (TN)

    Signed on June 12th, for $892,000 (SoxProspects).

    [SIZE=14pt]Starting in Lowell[/SIZE].
     
  2. ypioca

    ypioca Member SoSH Member

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    Bryce hit his first professional HR last night.

    His extreme agressiveness at the plate is (expectedly) producing a ton of strikeouts, 10 in 33 ABs already.

    His line so far at Lowell: .152/.300/.273
     
  3. Brianish

    Brianish Member SoSH Member

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  4. Omar's Wacky Neighbor

    Omar's Wacky Neighbor Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    QUOTE (Brianish @ Jun 30 2010, 09:03 AM)
    Article on Bryce: he attributes a lot of his struggles to getting used to the contacts the Sox have asked him to wear.

    http://www.projo.com/pawsox/content/Red_So...v5.107eab4.html
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    “I can see the edge of the contact on my eyes when I look around, like in the peripheral,” he said.


    I've worn contacts on and off for 30 years now, and I can't figure this part out. So, his eyeball (IOW, pupil) is moving, but the lens isn't?

    Am I the only one who never really noticed the edge of the contact in my periphery? Or are his contacts just so durned small that it is that noticable?
     
  5. SoxScout

    SoxScout Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I thought the same exact thing when I read it. I've never seen the edge of my contacts, even when looking as far to the left or right as possible.
     
  6. RFDA2000

    RFDA2000 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    QUOTE (Omar's Wacky Neighbor @ Jun 30 2010, 10:49 AM)
    I've worn contacts on and off for 30 years now, and I can't figure this part out. So, his eyeball (IOW, pupil) is moving, but the lens isn't?

    Am I the only one who never really noticed the edge of the contact in my periphery? Or are his contacts just so durned small that it is that noticable?


    I don't think it's that the contact isn't moving, otherwise it wouldn't be just a peripheral vision thing. I think it must just be the size of the contact is smaller, or it has got a different shape/material at the edge/or something else. It could also just be a convenient excuse.
     
  7. Shore Thing

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    QUOTE (Brianish @ Jun 30 2010, 09:03 AM)
    Article on Bryce: he attributes a lot of his struggles to getting used to the contacts the Sox have asked him to wear.

    http://www.projo.com/pawsox/content/Red_So...v5.107eab4.html

    Can anyone come up with any ideas about why the Sox would ask him to use different contacts? I find this baffling.
     
  8. Cuzittt

    Cuzittt Bouncing with Anger Dope

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    QUOTE (Shore Thing @ Jun 30 2010, 01:58 PM)
    Can anyone come up with any ideas about why the Sox would ask him to use different contacts? I find this baffling.


    Not different contacts... he didn't wear contacts. He has 20/20 vision (as I recall)... they wanted him to see BETTER (20/15, 20/10).
     
  9. Shore Thing

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    QUOTE (Cuzittt @ Jun 30 2010, 02:00 PM)
    Not different contacts... he didn't wear contacts. He has 20/20 vision (as I recall)... they wanted him to see BETTER (20/15, 20/10).

    Okay. That makes sense.

    So now I'm curious - are these contacts really smaller than 'normal' ones and therefore causing some interference with his peripheral vision? Or are they uncomfortable and therefore distracting to him?

    I assume that if it's truly a contact lens problem that the Sox will be all over this...problem should be corrected immediately. In any case, let's hope he starts making better contact.
     
  10. Niastri

    Niastri Member SoSH Member

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    QUOTE (Shore Thing @ Jun 30 2010, 03:45 PM)
    Okay. That makes sense.

    So now I'm curious - are these contacts really smaller than 'normal' ones and therefore causing some interference with his peripheral vision? Or are they uncomfortable and therefore distracting to him?

    I assume that if it's truly a contact lens problem that the Sox will be all over this...problem should be corrected immediately. In any case, let's hope he starts making better contact.


    If you haven't worn contact lenses for a long time, I imagine they would be difficult. My time as a 10 year old wearing them for the first time involved a lot of vision problems and a lot of destroyed contacts.

    Especially if they need him to get to better than good vision, the Sox are asking him to have an adjustment. Most people with glasses will have a big adjustment period without their glasses. A person new to them will have problems as well.

    Tiger Woods got his eyes lasered, and he had good to great vision beforehand.

    We hear about Wade Bodds and Ted Williams having great great vision. Seeing the baseball may not be good enough at "only" 20 20 vision. Those laces are small, and the ball spins fast.

    We have all heard the story of Boggs complaining about the ball with a dirt spot on it... The Sox have identified a weakness, and they are willing to help him fix it, without surgery. Makes sense to me.
     
  11. OttoC

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    Many studies on baseball players' vision have been done and the consensus is that they have much better eyesight than the general public in a number of areas, including better than 20/20 vision, depth perception, quickness of the eye to react. A lot of ballplayers today are in training programs that supposedly help improve their vision in these areas. An article in the Globe back in February discusses players' eyesight. Harvard professor Dr. Laby says that:

    On average, a baseball players’ vision is 20-12, which means a baseball player can see from 20 feet what a normal person can see at 12 feet. The best the human eye can see is 20-8, so 20-12 is halfway to the best human vision possible.

    An abstract of a paper--The visual function of professional baseball players--published in the American Journal of Opthalmology in October 1996 says:

    Statistically significant differences were found between major and minor league players on tests of untimed distance contour and random dot stereopsis, and on contrast sensitivity testing with the 3.0- and 6.0-cpd gratings using the Contrast Sensitivity Viewer. CONCLUSIONS: Professional baseball players have excellent visual skills. Mean visual acuity, distance stereoacuity, and contrast sensitivity are significantly better than those of the general population.

    A Google search for baseball players vision will turn up over one million entries, some discussing vision measurements and some discussing methods of improving vision for ballplayers.
     
  12. SoxScout

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    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110510&content_id=18871244&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb&tcid=tw_share&partnerId=rss_bos&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
     
  13. SoxScout

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    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110513&content_id=19003050&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb

    In all of pro baseball he has the most hits at 55, Andre Ethier has 53.
     
  14. Detts

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    Greenville paper with some quotes from Brentz today:



    He struggled in the New York-Penn League last year after injuring a foot, but that hasn’t carried over with the Drive this season…”That was really the lowest I ever go [sic]” Brentz said of his initial pro experience. “That was the first year I actually struggled. It was bad. I thought there was no way in hell it could get any lower. But I view it as a blessing, too, because it showed me a lot about pro ball – what I need to work on and what I needed to do."

    “It wasn’t mechanical, it was just effort level. It was more mental. Instead of being selective, I was swinging at everything that came across, came out of the pitcher’s hand."
     
  15. PhilPlantier

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    Can anyone shed some light on his eight errors? Are these easily correctable mistakes, or is he really that much of a butcher in the outfield?
     
  16. SoxScout

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    https://twitter.com/#!/ericsjarinko/status/66646559516934144
     
  17. bringbackburks

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    does anyone have an idea when the first round of promotions traditionally occur for a prospect like Brentz. He's clearly not being challenged at the plate (.388/.448/.701) so it would be nice to see what he could do at Salem.
     
  18. OttoC

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    He seems to be challenged in the outfield, though (going by errors).
     
  19. SoxScout

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    First rounders like him usually dominate Lowell, start the next season in Advanced-A for 60 games, then get promoted to AA. See: Ellsbury

    Who knows what they are doing with Brentz? Since he sucked last year maybe treating this like Lowell, then going to Salem and maybe a cup of coffee in Double-A to end the year.

    Their media relations guy on Twitter: "couple of overthrows (powerful arm), and just misjudging balls (dropped fly balls, missing grounders)"

    Also:

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/2011/05/daily-dish-bryce-brentz-extends-hit-streak-with-dramatic-home-run/
     
  20. Snodgrass'Muff

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    I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion about Brentz lately. He finished his stint in Greenville with a .359/.414/.647 slash line over 185 PAs and his current line in Salem is .300/.343/.689 through 99 PA's. After a disappointing debut in 2010 he's finally hitting like the prospect we were hoping for.

    The big area of concern is his K/BB rate. He struck out 35 times and walked 14 in A ball, and so far has struck out 22 times with 7 walks in A+. But the power we were told about is there, with 20 home runs in just 284 PAs at two levels this season.

    http://firstinning.com/players/Bryce-Brentz-a/
     
  21. Clears Cleaver

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    [quote name='Snodgrass'Muff' timestamp='1310592759' post='3632862']
    I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion about Brentz lately. He finished his stint in Greenville with a .359/.414/.647 slash line over 185 PAs and his current line in Salem is .300/.343/.689 through 99 PA's. After a disappointing debut in 2010 he's finally hitting like the prospect we were hoping for.

    The big area of concern is his K/BB rate. He struck out 35 times and walked 14 in A ball, and so far has struck out 22 times with 7 walks in A+. But the power we were told about is there, with 20 home runs in just 284 PAs at two levels this season.

    http://firstinning.com/players/Bryce-Brentz-a/
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    KLaw had him as an honroable mention in his mideason top-50 prospect list. Implies he is top-60 in all baseball now
     
  22. jsinger121

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    Two recent articles on Bryce Brentz.

    http://news.soxprospects.com/2011/07/q-with-bryce-brentz.html

    http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/12458/soxprospects-hr-hitter-brentz-figuring-it-out
     
  23. Dick Pole Upside

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    Seems like a perfectly safe, relaxing way to spend an off-day...
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    (From yeterday's Extra Bases)

    290 lbs.

    Is this real, or is he just putting Jenks/Joba out of their misery?
     
  24. SoxScout

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    http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2013/07/27/report-red-sox-outfield-prospect-bryce-brentz-done-for-the-year/
     
  25. BosRedSox5

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  26. Darnell's Son

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    https://twitter.com/brianmacp/status/613478605050519552
     
  27. soxhop411

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    Tough break
     
  28. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    At 26 years old, this might effectively end the Bryce Brentz era.
     
  29. tonyarmasjr

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    Well, it's two years later now, and he's certainly not a prospect anymore at 28. But I stumbled across him having a decent season at Pawtucket. Currently at .255/.329/.491 with 14 HR in 237 PA. K%/BB% at 20.3%/9.7%, compared to 25.2%/7.8% in his previous 1096 PA in AAA. He's been hampered by injuries, but I didn't realize last year was actually the most games he's played (91) since 2012. If the drop in K rate is sustainable, he could be a pretty useful corner OF/bench bat.
     
  30. keninten

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    Try him at 3rd. Don`t know if he`s ever played but he had a good arm pitching at MTSU
     
  31. bosox79

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    Bryce Brentz is now up to a .282/.354/.563 slash line for the year in 274 PA. 27bb/56k. Since the toe tap: 157 PA, .372/.452/.781 on a .381 BAbip, 14 HRs, 19bb/26k. Prior to toe tap: 112 PA, .162/.205/.286 on a .181 BAbip, 4 HRs, 6bb/30k.

    The 19bb/26k to 6bb/30k suggests the toe tap actually has had a huge impact on his timing/approach and it's not just SSS noise. Granted he isn't going to OPS over 1.200 forever, but the change appears real.
     

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