They wouldn't. The fact that we're hearing about it now is because both sides are leaking to the media to gain leverage. No way Colorado does that deal without Carlo or McAvoy. No way the Bruins are trading those guys, they want Colorado to take 2 dimes & a nickel for a quarter, which they have no reason to do right now. In other words, this was dead before we heard about it, like the Shattenkirk rumors last year.
I meant, Colorado would laugh at us if we offered that, just as (I hope) Sweeney would laugh at Colorado if they asked for both Carlo and McAvoy. My fault for not clarifying.
This makes sense. Sweeney is not trading Carlo or McAvoy, I'm sure he's pitched lesser prospects combined with roster assets and hit a dead end.
Well, the rumor I have heard does not have Carlo or McAvoy in it. I still thought it was a heavy price to pay for Landeskog as I am in the cshea boat on him. I have concerns on his game at the price you have to pay to acquire it. Can we have a cap team with Marchand, Bergy, Krejci, Backes, Landeskog, Pasta all up around 6 million or more? They are going to be close to 38 million for that group next year
Good point. Unless they can get Pasta on a bridge deal for something like 2ry/6mil, similar to Galchenyk. Then deal with the big money contract when he’s arb-eligible.
CapFriendly says "Starting in 2018-19, player submits a list of 19 teams he would be willing to accept a trade to"
I'm being generous as I assume the unspecified "prospects" portion of the combination would be where most of the value is at for COL in Maximus' post.
The first round pick is my only hesitation, but Landeskog will probably end up being the best player available during the season. I think that trade ends up being a steal for the Bruins.
Agreed on all points.
Not sure I buy this piece. When I read of a deal being scuttled I normally think teams were close to a deal and one team suddenly asked for more type stuff
I wouldn't classify Landeskog as a short term band aid. He's a 24 year old top 6 forward on a good contract for 4 more years. I don't like the idea of trading Carlo either, mostly because I worry about paying Pastrnak next year and love Carlo on an ELC, but you could argue that that type of move is because they're more confident in their future on defense then at forward, and don't care about screwing the defense for this year anyway (since they're not going to win anything) and see a team with Landeskog in the top 6 and McAvoy in Carlo's spot anyway. That being said, I still think these rumors are click bait horse shit because if Carlo was back on the table,a deal would be done.
Agreed. They must feel better about their futures on defense that at the forward position. It makes sense that they are thinking they can move McAvoy into Carlo's spot and put Landeskog with Krejci and Backes and move Vatrano down to the 3rd line.
Ultimately I would want to have both Carlo and McAvoy as the two anchors moving forward and spend money in FA on a Landeskog type. They have adequate space under the cap to make a major signing for the future.
I prefer to keep both Carlo and McAvoy too and pursue a FA forward acquisition. It is a much better alternative. I think Sweeney would agree but not sure about Cam.
Their top 4 in 5 years as currently constructed will likely be McAvoy at their #1 RD, Carlo as their #2 RD, Zboril or Lauzon or Grezlyk on the left side, with maybe C. Miller or someone like that mixed in. I'd much rather they keep that young defensive core and continue to build from the back end out with a mobile and skilled defense.
Agreed. I like Shattenkirk but a top 6 winger is a bigger need and Duchene would be a good solution.
This is what I mentioned to TFP this morning in GChat. They seem just shortsighted and dumb enough to do it too.
That's hilarious, I said pretty much the same thing to him.
I fully agree. Fringe pieces like Liles should be sold off. I don't see a goal scoring winger coming our way without a massive overpay (i.e. Carlo, 1st round pick, etc.)
If we look at recent deadline behavior from this front office, do you really think they'll sell and acquire picks, or waste picks or young talent on older fringe roster players to try and make a playoff spot?
Nope, not saying that. Our most pressing need is a scoring winger and we are not going to do a massive overpay (i.e. Carlo, 1st round pick, etc.) to facilitate that type of trade.
