Bruins: post mortem

[DJnVa]

Lucic's in particular. "I mailed in my season because that big meanie GM traded Johnny Boychuk away."

Cry me a river, Milan. And don't let the fucking doorknob hit you on the way out.

 
He said it affected him at the "beginning" of the season. He didn't say all year.
 
 
Milan Lucic: "I can say for sure the loss of Johnny Boychuk definitely affected me at start of the year. That was a tough one to get over"

 

 

[Toe Nash]

How the hell is not playing an unproven rookie defenseman over Miller indicative of anything analytics related?

I suppose it could be awful scouting that overvalues guys who hit people, even when they have one arm, as well.
 
 

They traded nothing to get Talbot, who was >>>> Campbell.  
 
It's typical for forwards to get less ice time than defenseman.  Crosby was 6th, Malkin 8th for Pittsburgh.  Bergeron was 3rd among forwards, but the difference between his ice time and Eriksson's (21 seconds) and Krejci's (2 seconds) is not significant or indicative of anything.  Krejci is their #1 center and part of the first power play unit; Eriksson saw lots of time on the power play as well.  
 
The difference in ice time between Seidenberg and Hamilton is also insignificant.  
 
Seguin was traded for a lot of reasons; it had nothing to do with a lack of understanding of shooting percentages. 
 
EDIT:  I'll add that I agree with you on one item:  they played Campbell too often.  But that fact alone does not mean the team ignores statistical methods. 

Yes, they got Talbot for basically free, but he has been basically the worst possession player in the league outside of Campbell the past few years (and they didn't even scratch Campbell until the very end). He was slightly better here for whatever reason.
 
At even strength, Bergeron was 7th in TOI / G for forwards. Bergeron was first by a little bit if you include special teams, so I retract that point I guess, though it would be nice if the PK / PP specialists could take that time.
 
Seidenberg was first for DMen in ice time at ES. With how he played, he should be lower. And he didn't get a day off.
 
We don't know the decision-making process. It just doesn't seem like on the edges they target, re-sign, and play guys who analytics like.

 

[kenneycb]

I suppose it could be awful scouting that overvalues guys who hit people, even when they have one arm, as well.

So you can't answer my question.  I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, just not sure where it fits in your analytics argument.  Miller is a bottom pairing d-man.  Trotman was an AHL guy with a minimal pedigree.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

Oooof. What an overreaction.

 

[Eddie Jurak]

So you can't answer my question.  I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, just not sure where it fits in your analytics argument.  Miller is a bottom pairing d-man.  Trotman was an AHL guy with a minimal pedigree.

 
Trotman was pretty solid towards the end of the season.  Based on that, 1) he wasn't the problem and 2) he should have been up sooner.  As for pedigree, Boychuk didn't have much of one either.  He was a much higher draft pick, but I'm not sure that any draft pedigree is left 7 years later for a defenseman with a grand total of 5 NHL games, 4 of them played at forward.

 

[kenneycb]

 
Trotman was pretty solid towards the end of the season.  Based on that, 1) he wasn't the problem and 2) he should have been up sooner.  As for pedigree, Boychuk didn't have much of one either.  He was a much higher draft pick, but I'm not sure that any draft pedigree is left 7 years later for a defenseman with a grand total of 5 NHL games, 4 of them played at forward.

Again, what analytics showed that Miller definitively shouldn't have been playing over Trotman.  Was just a weird gripe to throw in there.

 

[Eddie Jurak]

Again, what analytics showed that Miller definitively shouldn't have been playing over Trotman.  Was just a weird gripe to throw in there.

yeah. I guess it bugs me that Neely commented about lack of progress of the young defensemen when they had one who did a decent job when he got the chance. I hope they aren't going further down the road of not knowing what they have.

 

[Toe Nash]

Again, what analytics showed that Miller definitively shouldn't have been playing over Trotman.  Was just a weird gripe to throw in there.

Trotman's CFRel in 17 games before December was +2.9%. Miller was -5.5% last year and finished -3.2% this year. Trotman kept that up when he was recalled.
 
I understand that they like Miller's physicality, but the team was struggling for offense and it made sense to try someone else, especially once Miller got hurt. 

 

[kenneycb]

Trotman's CFRel in 17 games before December was +2.9%. Miller was -5.5% last year and finished -3.2% this year. Trotman kept that up when he was recalled.
 
I understand that they like Miller's physicality, but the team was struggling for offense and it made sense to try someone else, especially once Miller got hurt. 

And Trotman was playing a top 4 role with Chara and Krug and had almost 60% o-zone starts.

 

[Corsi]

Defenseman Zdeno Chara will not play Slovakia at the World Championship the Czech Republic due to an ankle fracture, coach Vladimir Vujtek told Sport SME.
 
Chara missed practice late in the regular season after blocking a David Booth shot during a game against the Toronto Maple Leafs, despite playing out the string.
 
The expected recovery time for the injury is two-to-four weeks.
 

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/749928

 

[kenneycb]

Per the B's, Chara has a non-displaced fracture of his left fibula and is out 4 weeks. Surgery not required and same timeframe as above. Sounds like the same injury as described above, just leg not ankle.

 

[McDrew]

The "ankle bone" that sticks out on the outside of your ankle is actually the end of the fibula.  My guess is that the break was in that area and technically fibula (specifically) and ankle(generally) are both correct. 

 

[BoSoxFink]

The "ankle bone" that sticks out on the outside of your ankle is actually the end of the fibula.  My guess is that the break was in that area and technically fibula (specifically) and ankle(generally) are both correct. 

thank you Dr. Canoe

 

[PedroSpecialK]

 

[FelixMantilla]

Svedberg signs with the K
 
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/10/report-bruins-svedberg-signs-one-year-deal-in-khl/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs