Bob Myers stepping down as Warriors GM

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I believe this is called "pulling a Dombrowski" - acquiring players with little regard for future salary implications and then leaving it to someone else out to figure out the mess once the bill comes due.
 

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I believe this is called "pulling a Dombrowski" - acquiring players with little regard for future salary implications and then leaving it to someone else out to figure out the mess once the bill comes due.
Not sure what you're talking about.

Myers built the dynasty mostly through the draft and then was tasked with maintaining it while also trying to rebuild.

What high-priced players did he "acquire" who haven't been contributors? What bad contracts has the team entered?

The Poole contract is their ONLY bad contract (I guess you could also call Klay's remaining year a bad contract, but that contract made perfect sense at the time), and that contract may not actually be that bad, all things considered, and will likely be moved in the off-season.

You could arguably say that forcing a new GM to decide what to do with Draymond and Klay leaves that guy in a tough spot, but Myers has earned the right to walk and has been signaling that he might do so for a year.
 
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Not sure what you're talking about.

Myers built the dynasty mostly through the draft and then was tasked with maintaining it while also trying to rebuild.

What high-priced players did he "acquire" who haven't been contributors? What bad contracts has the team entered?

The Poole contract is their ONLY bad contract (I guess you could also call Klay's remaining year a bad contract, but that contract made perfect sense at the time), and that contract may not actually be that bad, all things considered, and will likely be moved in the off-season.
I'm not saying he didn't do a great job assembling that team, just as DD did a great job assembling the 2018 Red Sox. Obviously, flags fly forever and you do whatever it takes to win championships.

But the Warriors are slated to be like $50m over the cap next year with a tax bill of over $200m, under a new CBA where that level of spending basically eliminates any possibility of doing anything in free agency other than re-signing your own guys, and limits what you can do via trade as well. And Klay has seemingly aged rapidly and even Curry isn't getting any younger although obviously he's still great.

My point is that I think Myers knows that this team has peaked and will require at least a partial, if not full, teardown/rebuild to become a true contender again and he (understandably) doesn't want to be around for that process.
 

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I'm not saying he didn't do a great job assembling that team, just as DD did a great job assembling the 2018 Red Sox. Obviously, flags fly forever and you do whatever it takes to win championships.

But the Warriors are slated to be like $50m over the cap next year with a tax bill of over $200m, under a new CBA where that level of spending basically eliminates any possibility of doing anything in free agency other than re-signing your own guys, and limits what you can do via trade as well. And Klay has seemingly aged rapidly and even Curry isn't getting any younger although obviously he's still great.

My point is that I think Myers knows that this team has peaked and will require at least a partial, if not full, teardown/rebuild to become a true contender again and he (understandably) doesn't want to be around for that process.
DD built a single championship team by stripping the minors for parts and entering some bad contracts. Myers won 4 titles over 12 years as a GM, and all of the contracts he entered are defensible. They have nothing in common.
 

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I’d watch for Myers and San Antonio. Building the Wemby Empire.
I think the Spurs like Wright but that would be an interesting fit given Wemby, Keldon, Vassell, cap space and a bunch of picks coming next few years.
 

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DD built a single championship team by stripping the minors for parts and entering some bad contracts. Myers won 4 titles over 12 years as a GM, and all of the contracts he entered are defensible. They have nothing in common.
Clearly Myers had a more successful run/career

BUT I think @OurF'ingCity was being sarcastic/joking because the new CBA is going to complicate things for the Warriors (& isn't Bob's fault at all)

I found "pulling a Dombrowski" kind of funny.
 

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Myers next move could be beyond hoops. That resume works for an agency, some sort of consulting gig or he can jump into the finance world. Seems like he has a bunch of options open to him depending on how hard he wants to work.
 

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Clearly Myers had a more successful run/career

BUT I think @OurF'ingCity was being sarcastic/joking because the new CBA is going to complicate things for the Warriors (& isn't Bob's fault at all)

at least I found it kind of funny.
Yes, was intended to be humorous and wasn't intended to be a one-to-one comparison. Anyway, we can move on, sorry for the mini-derailing of the thread.
 

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I believe this is called "pulling a Dombrowski" - acquiring players with little regard for future salary implications and then leaving it to someone else out to figure out the mess once the bill comes due.
That was my first thought, he read the new CBA and realized that he didn't want the teardown of the Warriors on his resumé.
 

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That was my first thought, he read the new CBA and realized that he didn't want the teardown of the Warriors on his resumé.
Also mine, if only in his recognition that the Warriors are post peak and the CBA makes the road ahead look pretty perilous.
 

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And ‘signed Kevin Durant’ with found money? Who wouldn’t have tried to sign him with that new cap space that was the product of the one-time skyrocketing cap event?
 

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And ‘signed Kevin Durant’ with found money? Who wouldn’t have tried to sign him with that new cap space that was the product of the one-time skyrocketing cap event?
Yeah, the more impressive feat was saving his salary slot by trading him for Russell, then upgrading to Wiggins. The latter was seen as a career disappointment and arguably a bust, and he turned into the 2nd most important player on another championship team. That's some impressive maneuvering.
 

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I’m not getting it. It sounds like he walked into the office on day one holding a winning Powerball and a jackpot scratch ticket and proceeded to…draft Draymond Green, having his winning team and players draw in great extra piece, and doing normal GM stuff. He also drafted the immortal Festus Izeli five picks before Draymond.
 

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Bob Myer's biggest contributions before their title run were clearing cap space to sign Andre Iguodala in their last summer of roster flexibility and not making a panicked Klay Thompson for Kevin Love trade.

This is a massive organizational moment for the Golden State Warriors, one potential end point of a path they began walking two years ago.
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Now it is nearly out of trade assets and cap flexibility. Every key player is at some point within his prime. This team is built to win right now.
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Thompson is a really good player. Losing him will hurt. But it’s not worth losing out on Love, a legitimate star whose skills mesh well with Curry. They could stay together for years, bridging the gap between this Golden State team and the contender the Warriors could build around them once contracts to Bogut, Iguodala, and others expire. Love can survive in a sound defensive system; Minnesota played a style similar to Golden State’s, and it ranked as a league-average defense despite playing most of its minutes without a rim protector.

It’s not an easy decision, in basketball terms or even emotionally. Sometimes you have to make tough choices to build a title contender.

https://grantland.com/features/kevin-love-klay-thompson-golden-state-warriors/

Zach Lowe wrote that on June 24, 2014. There was crazy pressure in NBA media to make that move to go to an immediate contender. Instead Myers bet on continuity and Thompson's continued improvement.
 

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The Wiseman pick looks to be an all-time gaffe but there were heavy rumors that LaMelo didn't want to go there and basically tanked his pre-draft stuff with the Warriors on purpose
 

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The Wiseman pick looks to be an all-time gaffe but there were heavy rumors that LaMelo didn't want to go there and basically tanked his pre-draft stuff with the Warriors on purpose
Fair enough, and I thought Wiseman was going to be at worst a Timelord type guy.
 

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It was also the Covid year so access was much different than years past. That's not a pass but it's not as egregious as, say, taking a Josh Jackson.
 

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Would Kerr/Myers consider taking over in San Antonio if/when Pop gets done?
Bob Myers is an LA guy without any connection to Pop or San Antonio...maybe if he wanted to be a package deal with Kerr and Kerr convinced him but Myers by himself doesn't have any history there
 

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Bob Myers is an LA guy without any connection to Pop or San Antonio...maybe if he wanted to be a package deal with Kerr and Kerr convinced him but Myers by himself doesn't have any history there
He’s smart enough to leap at his next frontier of building the Wemby era.
 

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He’s smart enough to leap at his next frontier of building the Wemby era.
I think Pop/Brian Wright/RC Buford are all smart enough to stick around for the first handful of years of that too..