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Discussion in 'Our Errors are Mistakes: The Media Forum' started by RedOctober3829, Dec 22, 2016.

  1. the1andonly3003

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    who is replacing Evan? seems like VORP for this McAdam-Drellich spot seems low
     
  2. mcpickl

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    That's a trash move to let go your baseball reporter right before spring training starts.

    Couldn't give the guy some time to line up another job?
     
  3. Patriot_Reign

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    well his contract just expired so i guess that explains the timing, although if under contract is it a no-no for an employer to give you a heads up that you might start looking around at other opportunities?
     
  4. PedroKsBambino

    PedroKsBambino Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Who is the new guy?
     
  5. soxhop411

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    Nobody

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...tqVazaR1xhiaqdl8lkhJ/story.html?event=event25
     
  6. Chad Finn

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    They put in for credentials with the Sox to send three aggregators to spring training. Not sure of their names. They're not specifically replacing him.
     
  7. jimbobim

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    Imagine that would be pretty awkward. Isn't the whole point of going with aggregators is not needing to pay for them to be there?

    On another note Drellich and Bradfo's podcast on this move was very good in my opinion.

    interesting re his coverage in particular v traditional coverage
    Drellich got very careful with his words. McAdam was far more honest and open.

    My 2 cents
    The Company made a mistake decreasing beat type coverage when they went away from McAdam. Further, I think it's a whole lot more about the fact that NBC Bos doesn't have the rights as opposed to interest in the Red Sox waning in comparison to the Celtics or Pats. Obviously patriots run the show.

    On another note, baseball's last 2 offseasons can't be viewed as helpful to baseball journalism.
     
  8. cornwalls@6

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    With NESN’s saturation coverage of the Sox, and spring training, I won’t really miss NBC Sports Boston cutting back on theirs. Drellich was decent though, hope he ends up somewhere local. As an aside, other than Celtics games, NBCSB is a complete waste of time. Their prime time talk shows are monuments to hot take stupidity, and somehow, for some unfathomable reason, they continue to employ Gary Tanguay.
     
  9. RedOctober3829

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    Their Patriots coverage is 2nd to none in the area however. Curran and Perry are the best TV reporters covering the Pats for local networks. Their podcasts with Nink and Mayo are golden.
     
  10. cornwalls@6

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    Fair point, particularly on Curran. When he was a regular co-host on the night time talk show, I thought he had slipped into being more of a hot take/content generator, rather than reporting and analysis. He seems have returned to those roles this past season, and you're right, he is excellent when doing that.
     
  11. Patriot_Reign

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    chad finn/ lou merloni twitter FIGHT
     
  12. NortheasternPJ

    NortheasternPJ Member SoSH Member

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    I got in the car at 2:05 after listening to Keefe and Lou just spent 10 min losing his mind.
     
  13. Haunted

    Haunted The Man in the Box Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Why is Lou Merloni so insanely thin-skinned?

    edit: his rebuttal claiming Chad was wrong about the "sports talk" approach to broadcasting was funny. In WEEI's official unoffical article about it https://weei.radio.com/articles/col...r-weei-not-changing-format-red-sox-broadcasts - Reimer claimed they were absolutely not going to do a sports talk approach and then went on to describe exactly that.

    "No, we won't be kicking you in the balls. What we're doing is forcibly pushing our foot into your groin area. See? Totally different. FAKE NEWS."
     
  14. NortheasternPJ

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    I'm not saying he's wrong about what Chad reported about who the people were or his "prominent sources" he lost his mind about, but that article you posted is exactly the issue.

    This is exactly the problem. I'm not an old school baseball person by any means, but if i'm listening on the radio I want you tell me what's going on since for some reason I can't see it.

    Everything else that you add is great. NHL and NBA are a completely different animal since it is constant play. If you look at the Patriots broadcast, it's way better even if you hate Zo's nonsense. There's a ton of downtime and they're telling you interesting things, stats, what's the formation etc. I never listen to a broadcast and get bored.

    If you're telling me there's not enough downtime in a baseball game to tell me what stories and other areas of interest, I don't know what to tell you. Back to McDonough and Remy (probably before that but I'm not old enough) they were able to talk about Billy McGolf and have Inane Banter Warnings because they literally had nothing to talk about. You don't need to talk over the game to have other things to talk about, it's freaking baseball, they do it all the time on the Celtics broadcast and it's not really "conversational" aka "sports talk radio"
     
  15. Chad Finn

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    He knows who feels that way about him and it bothers him.
     
  16. joe dokes

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    Castiglione and his partner have always engaged in anecdotal banter, for better or worse, as it takes time to establish some sort of banter-worthy chemistry. (It took him and Neverett almost two full seasons to come within hailing distance of what he and OBrien had, but I thought they were pretty good during the last post-season.)

    IMO, what Merloni is saying is "we're gonna do the same stuff, I just do it better." Which is basically what Lou says about a routine groundball to short. Most everything sucks, in the Lou-cast. Just like it does in non-game talk radio. *That's* my concern -- a tiresome flood of turning every sub-optimal outcome of a single at-bat into the beginning of a 12 season losing streak or a cause to replace the player with Lou Merloni, Jr. That is Lou's stock-in-trade, and I don't want it coming from my radio.
    I can log into a game thread for that. ;)

    Zolak is not my thing, but he's the harmless drunk at the bar agonizing and exulting over the game. Lou is the annoying guy at the bar drinking club soda who thinks exulting is for people who really dont understand the game.

    I'm probably in the minority, but I like Bradford in small doses on the radio. He's knowledgeable enough, but he's not an overbearing tsk-tsker. I'm optimistic about McAdam, as well.
     
  17. lostjumper

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    I find Lou Merloni to be absolutely terrible. He thinks he's the smartest guy in the room talking about baseball because he used to be a player. While that could be the case, his takes are horrible so he never brings anything of value to the conversation. He is horribly thin-skinned, can't take criticism, and has to be right. The worst is his nose breathing. It's loud, and once you hear it you can never get away from it. Anything he is a part of is unlistenable to me.
     
  18. grantb

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    Berman. Chris Berman. My goodness. Chris Berman. I’m told it’s fewer than 10 games, but c’mon.
     
  20. j-man

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    is this 1995 he was a good baseball guy 25 years ago but not now
     
  21. Patriot_Reign

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    it's amusing how comically bad weei has become (again)
    every decision they make is just so laughable
     
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    Wow. That’s amazingly bad. I wonder if they’ll actually put Hillman on in the morning slot or go to music full time. They need a top to bottom rebuild.
     
  24. Dotrat

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    I feel bad for Rich Keefe. He and Holley (when Dale was out) was some of the best sports radio around. Two good-humored, knowledgeable guys who love sports--no hot takes, no lame attempts at frat-boy humor.
     
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  26. bigq

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    Keefe is the only thing worth listening to on WEEI in my opinion.
     
  27. the1andonly3003

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  28. Bunt4aTriple

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    I suspect the author is also @wwiifelger. They both refer to Rich as Zoinks.
     
  29. NortheasternPJ

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    I love Keefe. 98.5 should have used him better.
     
  30. Patriot_Reign

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    I think it's run by Ironhead/ displaced Bostonian though I may be mistaken
     
  31. Mueller's Twin Grannies

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    Where did you see anything in that article about WAAF?
     
  32. NortheasternPJ

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    On my phone now but I’ll look tomorrow when online but it was speculated a few places during Super Bowl week.
     
  33. Mueller's Twin Grannies

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    What was speculated? The linked article was all about the sports stations...
     
  34. Red(s)HawksFan

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    Just a guess, but since it has been speculated before, I assume it is Greg Hill moving his morning show from WAAF to WEEI. That rumor's been around for a decade or so.
     
  35. NortheasternPJ

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    I tried to find it and still looking. I saw it Super Bowl week when I believe Hillman was actually being dual broadcast on both WAAF and WEEI that drove the speculation. I read it on Twitter which linked to an article. Searching Twitter isn't the easiest thing to do. I'll look more a bit later.
     
  36. bosox79

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    And no listeners\viewers.
     
  37. LMontro

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    How the fuck does Rich Keefe have "fans"? He's a DFG truther, has claimed the Madden cover thing was in the Patriots head, and said the TB's sideline comments in SBLI were forced and not genuine. He sucks. I stopped listening to sports radio around the time Holley left the show so I suppose there is some one-in-a-million shot that he somehow has gotten better but I doubt it.
     
  38. Riconway3155

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    I'm definitely one of his fans. When he was on 98.5 a while back, he filled in for either Toucher or Rich and I immediately liked him. Hes a little goofy and generally doesn't take himself very seriously. I also think hes got the "every mans" version of sports knowledge. I was disappointed when he was moved to mid-days because I really only listen to sports radio in my car and it is during drive time.
     
  39. Haunted

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    I feel the same. To me, he's the only host there I enjoy listening to, and like you I'm at work when he's on.
     
  40. Dotrat

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    I like Keefe because he's amusing, has a nerdy sense of humor, and loves sports. He actually pays attention to games--sadly a rarity among too many host on both EEI and 98.5 (Mazz especially)--and isn't a blowhard. I would love to see him paired with another younger host and get a drive time or evening gig. I don't think he could challenge F&M, but he and a good co-host could probably carve out a solid niche for themselves.
     
  41. bigq

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    I would listen to Keefe instead of F&M on an evening gig.
     
  42. NortheasternPJ

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    I hate he’s not on evenings. 2pm on is a double dumpster fire.
     
  43. Vandalman

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    Reporter suspended for this story:

    On Monday, we learned that the numbers were not accurate for the entire month of January. They were, in fact, only accurate for one week. Our source did not convey this to us when delivering the raw numbers – however, this person shouldn’t have needed to. We should have fact checked harder, probed deeper. Or, you know, looked at the motherfucking column headers to see that they were only for one motherfucking week and not the month.

    https://bjbsjournal.com/2019/02/19/bjbsj-suspends-reporter-for-one-week-over-weei-ratings-debacle/
     
  44. the1andonly3003

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    are we sure it's a legit sports media news site?
     
  45. BJBSJ

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    It’s as legitimate as any other one.

    Also, we have the full January numbers confirmed and they’re still terrible for WEEI.
     
  46. Rusty13

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    Heh. Link?
     
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    I resent the Mustard and Johnson reference. There’s not one piece of Shaw’s sheet cake anywhere to be found on our site. Purposely.
     
  50. NortheasternPJ

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    It's still the worst website I've seen in 15 years. I don't even disagree with your entire topic, the BSM is a pile of trash, but you really need a web developer. Pixelated tweets aren't great.
     

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