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Discussion in 'Our Errors are Mistakes: The Media Forum' started by RedOctober3829, Dec 22, 2016.
Awful news before Christmas.
Yet Joe Haggerty remains employed.
I bet they can hire 5 Smiley McTwentysomethings for what they were paying those two.
That's too bad. I liked both. Hopefully each will land on their respective feet.
I sat next to McAdam for a few innings during a Sox / Angels game in Anaheim (he came down from the press box to sit and talk with some scouts). We talked for a while after the scouts left. He was a real sweet guy during my interaction with him. I hope he and Neumy catch on somewhere else.
Truly an "if it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college"-level realization
Don't forget Tanguay!
I wonder what this does to The Baseball Show when it returns in the spring?
Was Neumeier on CSN before he got sick? If so, I wonder if this has been in the cards for a while.
McAdam I've always liked -- tho I haven't seen nearly as much of him since he left the ProJo. Is he still with the Herald?
No, he wrote for CSNNE.com.
As far as The Baseball Show goes, I wonder if it will be Trenni, Merloni, and Carrabis with possibly McAdam's replacement?
I'm sure McAdam will catch on quickly as he is a respected baseball guy. Neumy is probably a nice guy but I think he'll have a harder time. There are only so many horse racing gigs out there. Hopefully he was smart with the money he did make over the years, though I tend to think he may have blown much of it at the track.
Tanguay has to be working super cheap at this point, there is no way they pay him any kind of money at all.
CSNNE has programming other than Celtics' games?
Sad to see two good guys get pink slips three days before Christmas, but I'm not sure why CSNNE was employing them in the first place.
Wow I really liked them both, that's a bummer.
I saw him two summers ago at a concert in Prescott Park in Portsmouth NH. I have a close friend who was a former ProJo colleague of his, so it was an excuse to start a chat. He was very pleasant, as I was told he would be. He will land on his feet. I'm confident that Neumy has hedged his bets and will be OK, too.
I hope McAdam can join either Scott Lauber at ESPN Boston or the Globe finally cans Cafardo and Sean can take over.
McAdam is one of the best baseball writers in Boston. Brutal by CSNNE to dump him.
They actually have quite a lot of shows and some of them are actually decent unlike say NESN.
I'm not a big Lauber fan, so McA replacing either one is fine by me.
McAdam is excellent. And seriously fuck this company for dropping this right before Christmas. Eat shit assholes.
Curran's employer. I think CSN does a pretty solid job with football and basketball -- I def. turn to it at 11pm more often than I do NESN, and Mayo seems like a better match for Curran than whoever that woman they had opposite him was last year. But you do wonder whether even a market as insane about sports as Boston/NE can support multiple cable sports stations in a cord-cutting environment.
Maybe the CSNNE budget is being cannibalized to help fund the launch of the new NBC station in Boston?
they must need the budget to keep Kirk Minhane to show up on the Early Edition to debate Tanguay
edit: definitely will tune in right now to see if Gary goes off
Changes coming to WEEI.com as well.
If you look at Chris Price's twitter page no more references to WEEI.
Yup, certainly looks like he's been let go. Horrible news as he's as good as it gets on the Patriots.
Damn I liked Price a ton. McAdam over Tomase or Cafardo a billion times out of a billion. WEEI isn't going to out troll or hot take F and M so this just seems like shooting themselves in foot from website traffic perspective. Only Bradfo or Hannable worth it for baseball. Trags decent for Pats. But sucks.
I say the odds are above 50% that Price and McAdam are not replaced at their respective stations... Both guys were top notch, and it will be hard to replace them.. And if they do, its most likely either going to be in house, or a dumpster diver hire....
didn't McAdam spend a little time at ESPN Boston, moving from the Herald and right before CSN gave him big bucks?
Yes - I thought he had moved on to a position with the Red Sox as a historian or something?
That's Gordon Edes who was also good.
so a new Tanguay, Minihane and Felger power hour?
Great so basically we get NESN 2.0 with terrible programming. I wonder if this will end the 98.5 simulcasts as well?
Minihane and Callahan have recently started going after Felger by name (which really makes for spectacular radio, let me tell you), so maybe that's what they're setting up. Plus they had the horrible Tanguay pedophile storyline that ran for weeks.
The epitaph on America's headstone.
There's no alternative if sports media companies want to stay in business. News and highlights are commodities and Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and the leagues themselves do it faster. Opinion is all that's left.
From Finn's piece:
I assume this isn't the NFL and that contracts do matter. Do they just buy out the last year+ at a discount?
I understand the reasons behind it. I just have zero use for sports opinions. (or at least the ones being peddled on TV 99% of the time). Analysis I could live with. But there's not much of that, either, or it gets run over by the hot-take train. YMMV.
I wonder if that means fewer Patriots on Mondays. Not that it's a bad thing. It's like 4 Keith Foulke interviews.
I'm not sure that's true. ESPN gives SportsCenter more prime real estate than Mike & Mike, Around the Horn, or whatever. (Yes, hot takez and pseudo-analysis invaded SC a long time ago, but it's still primarily a highlights show.)
I think the problem for CSNNE is that SportsCenter is the dominant highlight show, and NESN already owns the local-focused highlight show niche.
Wait. Do you get your highlights from SportsCenter?
SC is 80% sports yelling, 10%-anchor driven yuks, 5% stories about highlights and 5% actual highlights.
The problem isn't opinion-based programming - it's bad opinion-based programming based on hot takez and yelling. I gladly listened to Sean McAdam's reasoned and informed opinions on the Red Sox and MLB. Hopefully he lands somewhere, even if it isn't a Sox beat anymore.
And where the space given to opinion grows ever-larger, the likelihood it will be filled with uninformed dolts increases exponentially.
I do watch SportsCenter sometimes. The chatter is annoying, and they feature meaningless dunks and exaggerated acrobatics at the expense of attempting to summarize each game in the allotted 30-60 seconds, but it's still mostly highlights, at least in the overnight/early AM version of the show (which is the only one I watch more than occasionally).
I would appreciate a 30-minute, no-nonsense highlights show (like SportsCenter was in the 80s), but I acknowledge there isn't much of a market for that -- low-information fans like the splashy SC presentation, and most sophisticated fans are more willing than me to put in the effort to find highlights online and have a more customized experience.
Doubt it. Patriots Monday and Patriots Friday are bought and paid for through at least next year, and they're not really tied into the dot-com staff anyway.
according to Sean McAdam, he is filling in for F&M...so he will show up on CSNNE via simulcast...
Unreal. I clicked on this thread hoping this was in fact an early Christmas present re: Tanguay. Instead a guy with actual talent like McAdam gets canned. I hope he lands somewhere soon.
couldn't they shift Neumy to NBC Boston to do the 6pm news?
so they keep Tom Giles and Kevin Walsh...?
This seems like the most logical move for Comcast to make. I understand why NESN, CSNNE, and WEEI have decided they don't want to pay beat writers to cover every game for all 4 major sports teams for their fledgling websites, but considering Comcast is starting a big 4 local station in a week from scratch, I don't know why they're thinning out on-air talent.
I like the guy but McAdam is kind of boring. He's a better guest than he is a host.