Beltran to the Yankees - 3 year deal

AlNipper49

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I was just saying to my wife that I thought what the Yankees really needed was a 6th outfielder
 

LuckyBen

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What the hell are the Yankees doing? I'm sure Ichiro will love being a back up and four lh outfielders. There goes some of that pitching money.
 

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They would have to move Gardner for some pitching, right? Otherwise this is not smart. Which is fine by me
 

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It's not that difficult. Ellsbury in CF, Gardner in LF, Beltran in RF. Ichiro and Wells are on the bench, Soriano is the primary DH. Gardner is gone next year, or moved in a trade.
 

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 if they end up moving Gardner for pitching, they'll have to use some of their thin minor league talent. So, it's possible that the Yankees will have both stayed under 189 AND depleted a thin farm AND given up their top 2 draft picks
 

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LF-Wells
LCF-Gardner
CF-Ellesbury
RCF-Ichiro
RF-Beltran


Some does have to cut off Ellsbury to the infield.
 

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Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat said:
What type of pitching return would Gardner bring?  Anything better than Phelps?
 
A #4 with a contract? He would have to be paired up with a young, cost controlled stud to bring back anything of significance. Gardner + Robertson + something, anything in the farm could do it.
 

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Well, 3 years is much better than 10.
 
And he can actually hit in the playoffs
 

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What is Wells owed by the Yankees next year? Can't they just release him?
 

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Savin Hillbilly said:
 
And Ichiro the utility infielder!
 
Seriously, the theory that Cashman is daring the top brass to fire him just gets more and more plausible.
 
I think Cashman has yet to sign a player this off-season. Perhaps Kuroda. Everything else reeks of Levine.
 

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Awesome. I've been hoping all off-season that the Yankees would sign Beltran. In my opinion, he's one of the worst uses of their money. And he got three years to boot!
 
At this point, I think the Yankees realize that they aren't going to compete without Cano and Tanaka, so they're just signing the biggest name players possible to try to sell tickets.
 

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Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat said:
5 outfield spots and still no room for Soriano
 
 
It's only December 6.
 
And Cashman usually comes up with 1 surprise trade per year
 

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Well, 3 years is much better than 10.

And he can actually hit in the playoffs


Assuming they make it there...
 

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Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat said:
How can they trade Robertson though?  Isn't he the heir apparent?
 
Right it's tough but that rotation is fucking awful. 
 
EDIT: And, Robertson is the ONLY thing they have. If Cashman calls me for anything all talks involve Robertson.
 

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Hoplite said:
Awesome. I've been hoping all off-season that the Yankees would sign Beltran. In my opinion, he's one of the worst uses of their money. And he got three years to boot!
 
At this point, I think the Yankees realize that they aren't going to compete without Cano and Tanaka, so they're just signing the biggest name players possible to try to sell tickets.
 
 
That's what Michael Kay said on MLB Network yesterday. Their ratings were horrible last year, even when they were winning in the first half.
 
Besides, Beltran can hit in the playoffs if they make it. How many years could they go with a silent post season offense?
 

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Who is the youngest Yankee position player? Ellsbury?

The Yankees have devolved into the 70s-80s Red Sox. No pitching. Park dominated lineup. Old. No farm system. Interesting.
 

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Merging two Beltran-to-the-Yankees threads...
 
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Ellsbury-Beltran-Soriano? So Gardner, Ichiro and Wells are all in the rearview mirror now?
 

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The Yankees don't seem to realize that no matter how strong their offense is next year, they don't stand a chance unless they upgrade that dogshit rotation + bullpen.
 

Hoplite

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hbk72777 said:
 
 
That's what Michael Kay said on MLB Network yesterday. Their ratings were horrible last year, even when they were winning in the first half.
 
Besides, Beltran can hit in the playoffs if they make it. How many years could they go with a silent post season offense?
 
Yeah, I'm sure they'll spin this as Beltran being able to help them in the playoffs.
 

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After Beltran collides with Ellsbury they will be glad they have Wells and Ichiro.
 

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CGSO said:
Why is everyone happy about this? Beltran is a really good player.
 
Because the Yankees addressed a need they didn't have. They burned $15MM and the bullpen and rotation is still god awful.
 

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Sprowl, out of those guys I'd say Gardner has the most trade value and is moved to fill another void - most notably SP.
 

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Is the strategy right now to sign every player except Cano? So baffled. JA has it right, they're looking to sell tickets. Who cares if they create a few logjams in the process.
 

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Savin Hillbilly said:
 
If they do, doesn't his salary still count for luxury tax purposes?
 
Wells' salary currently lowers their luxury tax calculations by $12 million. The Angels are paying roughly $18 million of his salary and the Yankees are paying roughly $6 million.