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  1. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    I’ve had like three pairs of skates over the last 15 years so can’t help you there. Have always been a Bauer guy for no real apparent reason outside of not wanting to change. If you want cheap skates, the March/April timeframe is a good time to go shopping for last year’s model.
     
  2. catomatic

    catomatic thinks gen turgidson is super mean!!! SoSH Member

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    That's a good time-frame for me, I'll do exactly that. Cheers.
     
  3. TFP

    TFP Dope Dope

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    I was always a Bauer guy too on skates. Then a couple years ago I tried on all the new Bauer skates (TotalOnes, Supremes), and i couldn’t stand any of them. Ended up with a pair of CCM RBZs that fit like a glove and were way cheaper than expected. If you can wait until August of next year, the Pure Hockey tent sale (if you’re in MA) will give you great deals on skates.

    As far as sticks go - I have always been a Bauer TotalOne/Nexus Guy because they didn’t have Griptac and I like the P88 pattern. I generally get the ones that are between $100-150 and they treat me well. Going cheaper has caused them to break easier in my small sample size of experience. And yes, I’m also taking clappers from the point.
     
  4. catomatic

    catomatic thinks gen turgidson is super mean!!! SoSH Member

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    Good to know. How's the toe-box width on the CCMs, though? I have a burgeoning hammer toe that forced me into my first wide-designated shoe last year..... Westside Skate and Stick suggest repeatedly that I get Grafs and they'll custom-mold them to my foot but apart from the Graf price, those holders pitch you pretty forward—I don't need my skates prompting me, like a Calvinist minister, to skate with proper, forward-leaning form. Some like this, others I know don't. The two guys on my team with professional backgrounds skate in them but one guy really doesn't like them and is on the verge of switching them out. I'll drive up to MA, my mom and bro are still up there.
     
  5. The Mort Report

    The Mort Report Member SoSH Member

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    So I will preface this with saying I’m a goalie, I’ve dumped waaaay too much money in that gear so I’m not too picky of sticks for the odd time every week or two I skate out. But allblackhockeysticks.com have been great for me. Under $100, full carbon, different curves. I also like the fact they have no name or anything for some reason. They are super light and work great for when the better players shoot at my stick to score me a goal
     
  6. Scott Cooper's Grand Slam

    Scott Cooper's Grand Slam Member SoSH Member

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    Fellow goalie here, but I play sled hockey. Do you (or anyone in this thread) have recommendations for a goalie mask that works well with glasses? I'm not concerned (about this point) about my glasses fogging up (although I'm told that's a problem). I'm mostly concerned about being able to put on and take off the helmet and have my glasses fit comfortably. Contacts aren't an option for me, so are there any spacious-enough helmets, or is sports-glasses my best bet?

    The other thing I need is hard shoes. Skates are probably my best bet, but I don't need the actual blades. I just need a hard shoe in case I take pucks off the foot/ankle.
     
  7. The Mort Report

    The Mort Report Member SoSH Member

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    I don’t have any experience with glasses, but I feel like most decent masks are fairly adjustable with straps and pads. My Bauer was I think 500 and came with extra pads. I don’t have it near me right now but I think I could wear glasses under it.

    As for fogging up you can always pick up shield defogging spray if they start to become an issue
     
  8. TheRealness

    TheRealness Don't make him go all Lucic on your ash SoSH Member

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    You can use the same spray they use on visors for your glasses.

    As for the mask issue, I am a goalie but I don’t know. I’ve never looked into it, but I would imagine you’re probably stuck with regular masks that mess with them. I’ve worn my glasses underneath a fair amount and it’s annoying, but don’t know of another option outside of sports glasses. Most times I skate I don’t wear them though. I can still see to the blue line.
     
  9. Scott Cooper's Grand Slam

    Scott Cooper's Grand Slam Member SoSH Member

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    Thanks for the tips, all. This was the ticket. I just had to try on a bunch of masks until I found a cage that fit my glasses and was adjustable enough to provide a good fit. I was intrigued by full-face shields, but a couple people told me that they're not practical for goalies. One puck to the face and the thing will shatter.
     
  10. Monbo Jumbo

    Monbo Jumbo Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

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    I spent last week with these two jokers. I'm happy to report that James, who will be 78 in June, is still logging 5 hours of ice time per week at the University rink in Vancouver. He's had some sciatica issues lately though, and is concerned the hockey window may be closing on him.

    Robert will turn 77 in June. His hockey buddies convinced him to send his skates from Oregon to New Hampshire to be radius-ed and sharpened. Now Robert is tight with a buck, so it was a big deal to get him to spend that dough. He was very enthusiastic about the results. "These blades are the best thing that's happened to my game" he said. "This year is the first in a long time that my game has not deteriorated significantly! My golf game has gone to shit, however."
     
  11. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    Thanks for the update.

    I think about your brothers a lot ever since you posted that first picture. I don't know when I'll have to break my heart and get off the ice, but I'm glad to know I've got many years left.
     
  12. LogansDad

    LogansDad Member SoSH Member

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    I've been considering looking into getting on the ice. I would have to take some skating lessons, since it has been something like 20 years since I have spent any real amount of time on the ice, and I have never played organized hockey before. I'm 38.... are there leagues out there that would allow a super beginner like me to go out and embarrass myself a lot but still enjoy myself?
     
  13. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    Depends on location but there certainly are in Boston. Not sure what the skates are like up in your parts.
     
  14. santadevil

    santadevil Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Ya, even the smaller places around here have some leagues for guys that haven't played much.
     
  15. LogansDad

    LogansDad Member SoSH Member

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    So, me and the wife went in for our first lesson today, just a free clinic to see if we wanted to pony up for the 6 month program they have here near Sacramento that is supposed to prep you for their novice league play.

    Holy cow, what a blast. I'm pushing 39, so I'm not sure I'm going to be able to walk in the morning, but I think I am probably all in on trying to actually learn to play.
     
  16. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    Do it.

    You won’t regret it once; the game is glorious to play.
     
  17. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    Played in my first pond hockey tourney at Lake Winnipesauke this past weekend and it was a blast. Different type of hockey that took a game to get used to and my body is aching big time from having to skate a bit differently but very happy I did it.
     
  18. locknload

    locknload Member SoSH Member

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    Figure this is a decent place to put this, but last year I co-founded a company that did hockey subscription boxes called the penalty box. Until we really got serious I was nervous about spreading around SOSH. However people have loved it and it was much larger success than we could have anticipated. We realized how bad hockey players were being screwed by traditional retailers so we branched out into a private facebook group called hockey deals and discounts where we try and offer great below market deals. We have over 13k members at this point and we can force retailers into some pretty great deals. We have recently done some amazing discounts with some top end brands like Grit Bags, Pacific Bags, Sauce, Sparxx, and Bauer apparel. We have been expanding non-stop since we started including a monthly tape club . So check us out, join the facebook group and enjoy the amazing community we have created.
     
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  19. TFP

    TFP Dope Dope

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    I was up at Lake Morey 2 weekends ago for what I think was the 6th time. It's always an incredible experience to skate outside, but it's a totally different game and a shitload of work on the legs. I love to do it...once a year.
     
  20. TheShynessClinic

    TheShynessClinic SoSH's Doug Neidermeyer SoSH Member

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    No way! I had looked into both Penalty Box and Monthly tape club as something I was interested in, but kind of mentally put it in the background.

    Knowing it supports a SoSHer - I'll definitely subscribe once I have my new address after the move!
     
  21. Salem's Lot

    Salem's Lot Andy Moog! Andy God Damn Moog! SoSH Member

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    That's awesome, I could definitely use monthly tape club. I don't know how many times I'm running to Cooke's or Play it again sports at the last minute before a game and half the time they're closed. I'll definitely check it out thanks!
     
  22. locknload

    locknload Member SoSH Member

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    Hope you guys like it. Always interested in any feedback you have. Also here is the link to our email list that we send the deals out on:

    http://www.promotions.penaltybox.co/deals

    It should only be a couple of emails a week but since some of our deals are limited quantity first come first serve it's handy to get them via email.
     
  23. MiracleOfO2704

    MiracleOfO2704 not AWOL SoSH Member

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    I know most people here have seen it, but for the few that haven’t, Marc Savard teaches you how he tapes his stick:



    [Insert obligatory “Fuck you, Matt Cooke” here]
     
  24. wiffleballhero

    wiffleballhero Member SoSH Member

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    Beer league strategy!

    So my beer league is only a few weeks away from the playoffs and this seems like the right place to get some strategy advice. My team is (by the standards of the league) good, not dominant, but also only a little puck-luck away from being able to win it all.

    The book on our team is pretty obvious: we score less than other teams, we shoot less than other teams, but by a huge margin, we give up fewer goals than anyone else and we even give up fewer shots on net. Our games are often these ugly, puck-in-the-corners grinds that are an eyesore even by the low bar of B league.

    We have really strong defenders, one good center and a bunch of pretty weak wings.

    When we lose to the top teams in the league, it is of the 2-1, 2-0,1-0 kind. But when we win vs those teams it is about the same and usually the win involves their goalie playing like crap (thank god for weak B league goalies!).

    Our biggest problems are that we are not good breaking through the neutral zone and we do not really sustain long offensive zone pressure. We end up doing a lot of futile dump and chase (but, again, with those weak wings that forecheck rarely impresses).

    So I wonder, are there some strategies especially effective in B league that maybe we should try in our last few regular season games? I am all ears.


    We will not shorten the bench until the playoffs, and even then I don't think we will do it until the third period. We get good goalie play in a league where often the goalies are pretty hideous (chuck that puck to the net!). We are also a big team but we do not have anyone that could seriously be considered fast (again, by the standards of the league where maybe four teams have that one guy who can just fly).

    Whadda think (other than it being a lost cause).
     
  25. Lupe Whalewatch

    Lupe Whalewatch Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Ask a few buddies in the A league to come down for the stretch run?
     
  26. wiffleballhero

    wiffleballhero Member SoSH Member

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    The league actually kicks people out if they are too good. Everybody in A is on the cannot-play list.

    Sticklers.
     
  27. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    What exactly is the NZ issue? Most men’s leagues I see have wide open NZ...D playing horrific gaps and forwards that don’t back check.

    As far as the OZ- run a simple cycle up the wall.
     
  28. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    And if you’re a big team use that to your advatage. Work the walls and corners and get in 1:1 battles. People aren’t going to want to get physical until it’s late and close in the playoffs.
     
  29. wiffleballhero

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    The top of the league is pretty good in the neutral zone -- solid positioning and centers who have their act together, so it is not a cake walk through there (although I know what you mean vs. the bottom of the league). Cycling the puck can happen now and again, but really, we are such a bunch of shitty passers .... We probably need to actually talk about that as an option on the first line/ with the small group of wings and centers who can play.

    Size: right so we do dominate those one on one battles, but we are having a hard time translating that into goals. We push teams hard and fast into the corners when then get into our defensive zone, but then we don't control the other end.

    I am the smallest guy on the team by 20 pounds and sometimes I just hang out in the middle of the ice and try to poach because the other guys just bulldoze through on D.

    I am wondering if we should pull one of our more dynamic players off D and have him play center. We seem to have a ton of rebounds that don't get put away and a whole lot of ice in the slot where a bigger center would be able to do some damage. I think though, as a team, we are anxious about what might get exposed on the back end.
     
  30. Dummy Hoy

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    Yeah, slow D is bad news.

    I mean, it sounds like you have trouble getting the puck in the OZ let along doing anything with it. For getting it in I’d make sure that the person carrying it through the NZ isn’t the first layer of attack- that way when they dump it in, there’s guys ahead of them that can get on it quicker. That or enter the zone and pull up to let guys come in with speed.
    Of course if your D are solid, just float someone to stretch the other team open and look for a long pass.

    In the OZ, if you can’t walk up the wall and cut in or cycle down, then I’d just throw everything at the net and crash.
     
  31. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    This is literally the most thought I've put into men's league hockey strategy.
     
  32. timlinin8th

    timlinin8th Member SoSH Member

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    Can you convince Andre “Poodle” Lussier, Gilmore Tuttle, and Clarence “Screaming Buffalo” Swamptown to join your team for the playoff run?
     
  33. TFP

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    I thought about it and realized I had no clue how to answer.

    Every once in a while my team will run a neutral zone trap if the other team is super fast or we're short manned. Hang 4 guys back in the neutral zone almost obnoxiously, then try to counterattack with an odd man rush off a turnover. It'd be boring to do all the time, but once a season or so it's always fun. And the other team gets PISSED which is also hilarious. Highlight for me is Steve Moses flipping out after we completely shut him down one game. We were dying laughing at him.
     
  34. wiffleballhero

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    I know right. I am insane. The reality is that we drink beer and hope for the best. But .....


    These are about the best ideas I could hope for. It is absolutely a league where throwing everything at the net and crashing for rebounds is solid strategy. I also like the idea of at least trying to be a little more conscious about the dump-in coming earlier, with a chaser already ahead, breaking the blue line right after the puck.
     
  35. wiffleballhero

    wiffleballhero Member SoSH Member

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    Already up in A.
     
  36. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    One team did something similar to us last week when they only had six guys. Ran the trap and then floated a guy in the neutral zone when we were on offense. Anytime they got possession they fired it up one of the boards to a guy who was streaking. If you have good D and a good goalie, the strategy could work decently well. It works best against a team that isn't very disciplined in the offensive zone as well as for a team that has very disciplined forwards who are willing to basically play a PK for most of the game.
     
  37. LogansDad

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    @locknload I had a question for you about your Penalty Box. I think I am gong to sign up for it once taxes come in and I pay off the credit card me and the wife just put our learn to play hockey class registration and all our gear on, but do you have an example listing of what we can expect to get in it? I watched the unboxing video, but it would be cool to know if that is a typical month, or if we can expect more or less in a typical month (an example I have is the Humble Monthly Bundle, a subscription video game thing where we get a bunch of games every month, they list the products from like the last 3 months right on their home page).

    This is not a criticism, just a question, and I will likely be joining anyway!

    Also, thanks for accepting me to the Facebook page, it's pretty awesome to see how helpful and passionate the people on their are. Makes me wish I could convince my kids to get into the sport (though my wallet certainly thanks them for choosing not to).


    For the group: We got all our pads yesterday, and now I am looking into beginner level sticks. Do you guys have any recommendations that won't totally break the bank?
     
  38. wiffleballhero

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    Maybe somebody here will radically disagree, but I don't think it matters. Go cheap, go wood.

    Until you are taking snap shots and really trying to make some hay with a wrister, you are fine with a cheap, durable wood stick. Tape it. Wax the tape so the tape holds up well. Retape when the tape at bottom of the blade starts to fray.

    Sticks are a sort of Faustian deal at this point where, on the one hand, they are are incredible compared to old wooden sticks and even the first few generations of metal/composites that came out. But on the other hand, they simply don't last and they are pricey, even for low level/last year model composite (alright, maybe I slash way too much). But until you are playing at a level where you are really trying to pop shots -- and not just playing something close to shinny -- it won't matter.

    When you do get to the point where you want to dump money on sticks, then it is probably financially wise to keep a few around for different purposes. For example, I have four sticks right now, and usually have some configuration of this set up:
    1. Game stick. Most recent purchase, still in great shape, still has all of its pop. Save it for when it 'counts.' I try to buy lower end/last year models because, damn, they add up.
    2. Pick up/ non-game stick. Worn down game stick or heavier/ more durable cheap stick. (This is the stick I use the most because I play fewer games than I play in open pick up.) Currently I have a "sale price" $60 Sherwood 'Stastny' composite that is holding up really well.
    3. Back-up POS but seemingly indestructible old Bauer stick that sits on the bench unused until stick 1 or 2 breaks mid game. Same stick I've been carrying around for three years.
    4. Driveway stick. Former #2 stick that is still in good enough shape for me to pass a ball around in the driveway. Headed for the landfill soon.

    Having said all of that, I am interested in knowing about how people see the durability of the higher end sticks. I just can't bring myself to spend $200 on a stick, but I could almost be talked into it if I thought it would last three times longer than a $70 one.
     
  39. locknload

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    The goal is be around $60 retail value on the box each month. We commonly do a first timers on your first order that has tape, some apparel, Howie's Wax, and a tape tin, with some other smaller items sprinkled in. Last month's beer leaguer was cut resistance socks, some Requipd golf set and beer opener (great smaller company that makes stuff out hockey gear), USA flag tape, and Howie's Koozies.

    As for sticks check out https://www.allblackhockeysticks.com. Haven't tried them myself but we've heard some really good things about them. Hoping to have a deal with them soon to post on the page.
     
  40. LogansDad

    LogansDad Member SoSH Member

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    Thanks man! Appreciate the response! I will definitely try to work it into the budget next week!
     
  41. Dummy Hoy

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    I’d get a cheap composite stick...just go to the clearance section of any number of websites. Your ability to shoot will be significantly better and the price difference is negligible.

    Make sure you get the right lie too, that can make a huge difference. Ask the people at the practice to help you with that.
     
  42. locknload

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    Spent all afternoon packing boxes! Here's this month's beer leaguer. Big items this month is the CCM shirt that is super light and amazingly comfortable and the NoSweat. Water bottle in the top left not included it just snuck in the picture.

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  43. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    Another pimping of gear for friends. Played in the Pond Hockey Classic up in Lake Winnepesauke and my team was sponsored by Streaker Sports, which provides all the official gear for the weekend (if you bought a PHC shirt, it was from these guys...if someone was in the tent with gear on, it may have been me). Good guys and people may like some stuff on the site. They’ve been pushing a bunch of Team USA stuff for the Olympics and, if you go on Instagram, you can see me rocking one of the early-90s All Star game-esque jerseys (I’m the tall-ish one).

    Same owner also has a bag place called Hudson Sutler, which has some awesome stuff.

    Good guys all around and good products, even if they’re all Rags fans.
     
  44. locknload

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    Hey @kenneycb we have had some great success running deals to the group with some small gear/apparel companies. Both Teegs and Rye and Third Period Apparel killed it. If your buddy is interested would love to talk to him. I'll PM you my contact info.
     
  45. LogansDad

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    Man, I'm not sure how I survived 38 years without playing. I love being on the ice, but I really, really, really need to work on my left stops. I feel like I'm cluttering up this thread, but wanted to say thanks to you guys because I'm not sure I would have ever taken the plunge without it.

    Also, I need to get an hour of stick time this week and just do nothing but left stops. Because I'm almost positive they are impossible.
     
  46. PedroSpecialK

    PedroSpecialK Comes at you like a tornado of hair and the NHL sa Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    They were/are also my bugaboo. I have done more pizza stops than I care to admit
     
  47. Smiling Joe Hesketh

    Smiling Joe Hesketh All Hail King Boron Dope

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    Same. Can't do left stops at all.
     
  48. locknload

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    It really is one the great men's league sports. I just got back playing regularly for the first time in quite a few years and man it's great. It's not even just the ice time. After the last game we spent another hour just shooting the shit drinking bud lights in the locker room. I ended up looking around and realized how much I had missed that.

    We've been playing 4 on 4 with 1 or 2 subs and I can't wait until I stop sucking so much wind. I guess its fast tracking getting back into aerobic shape though.
     
  49. TFP

    TFP Dope Dope

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    That’s the best 1-2 hours of my week, and it’s not even particularly close.
     
  50. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    13 years of the Cape Cod 40+ league and Kettle Ho finally wins a title.
     

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