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Baylor fires Art Briles

Discussion in 'College Sports' started by RedOctober3829, May 26, 2016.

  1. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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  2. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    Ken Starr in the middle of a sex controversy once again

    Rumors are that Briles covered up alleged sex assaults by his players which if true, he should burn indeed
     
  3. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    And Starr allegedly could be fired too
     
  4. IHateDaveKerpen

    IHateDaveKerpen Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    The always great Dale Hansen roasted Briles recently.

    Word is that Starr is pretty much already gone.
     
  5. sachmoney

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    That school needs some fundamental changes. It seems like the problem is much more than just the football team. Does dumping Briles do anything? Well, it gets rid of an enabler. But only one of them.
     
  6. Average Reds

    Average Reds Dope Staff Member Dope V&N Mod SoSH Member

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    I had read as recently as one day ago that Starr would be sacrificed so that Briles would be allowed to stay.

    I have no opinion on whether Starr should stay or go (and yes, word is that he's next) but it's nice to see that the school appears to understand that if there is a grotesque Title IX violation being directed by the football coach, then the coach is the first to go.

    Edit: And it looks like Briles and coaching staff are gone; the AD has been "sanctioned," a bunch of unnamed administrative staffers are fired and Starr has been demoted. Rare to see a school take comprehensive action. Good for them.
     
  7. mauidano

    mauidano Mai Tais for everyone! SoSH Member

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    WAY overdue. This should send a message across the nation that this type of condoning behaviors can never be tolerated. Schools, AD's, coaches and players continually push the envelope. The good ole days of a wink and a smile are hopefully gone and accountability prevails going forward.
     
  8. Average Reds

    Average Reds Dope Staff Member Dope V&N Mod SoSH Member

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    I'll believe the bolded when Jimbo Fisher is fired and/or indicted.
     
  9. soxhop411

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    “‪@McMurphyESPN‬: Baylor admits to ”directly discouraging some complainants from reporting (incidents) & retaliated against one for reporting sexual assault“”



    Shut down the damn program
     
  10. singaporesoxfan

    singaporesoxfan Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    If Baylor did indeed do a wholesale firing, good for Baylor. A school that sees itself as a premier Baptist school should let no gods - including that of collegiate athletics - come before its ethics and morals. But sadly more likely motivated by potential NCAA sanctions than by its ethics.
     
  11. johnnywayback

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    They should disband the football program entirely, if not the entire athletic department.
     
  12. Kremlin Watcher

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    Baylor in particular and Texas schools in general have a terrible history of allowing their sports programs to behave with utter impunity. SMU, aggy, Houston, Baylor, the frogs, Tceh - just about all of them have done some really awful things in the name of trying to keep up with the University of Texas. Obviously not unique to Texas, but Baylor felt so much pressure to keep up that they covered up a murder in their basketball program. And Briles was awful in that regard. Good riddance.

    Tom Herman, come on down!
     
  13. IHateDaveKerpen

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    Has there been any word on how the NCAA will respond - if at all - to this whole situation?
     
  14. singaporesoxfan

    singaporesoxfan Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Starr more than demoted: he's out effective May 31. http://www.baylor.edu/mediacommunications/news.php?action=story&story=170207
     
  15. Average Reds

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    I think you misread the statement. He has been explicitly demoted:

    He's out as President but will remain as Chancellor of the University and as a professor at the Law School.
     
  16. edoug

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  18. Dick Pole Upside

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    Let's hope Butch Jones, Peyton Manning, and the rest of the Tennessee Teabaggers are next...
     
  19. Zososoxfan

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    Urban Meyer takes offense to this reference not being about him.
     
  20. singaporesoxfan

    singaporesoxfan Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Ah thanks. Yes I misread.
     
  21. Infield Infidel

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  22. Bosoxen

    Bosoxen Bounced back Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Gee, I wonder to which incident they're referring with the lack of due diligence regarding a transfer?

    Fuck that school. Hard. And fuck anyone who defended Art Briles like he was the second coming of Joe Paterno. Oh wait.
     
  23. edoug

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    It's probably Sam Ukwuachu.
    http://www.texasmonthly.com/article/silence-at-baylor/
     
  24. Bosoxen

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    The question was actually rhetorical. There's no way it wasn't about Ukwuachu.
     
  25. edoug

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    Knowing Baylor, it could of been of those multiple choice questions that the answer is all of the above.
     
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  27. Bosoxen

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    Very true. But then again, Briles didn't lie to the national media regarding how much he knew about any other player's past. I remember some groans about Oakman being an asshole, but nothing approaching the full-blown CYA (more like half-baked, amirite) we saw with Ukwuachu.

    Besides, the report goes out of its way to state that it was a single "identified" instance. Which has to be Ukwuachu.

    Edit: At any rate, apologies if my sarcasm didn't come through as well as I intended. I'll try to lay it on a little thicker next time!
     
  28. WayBackVazquez

    WayBackVazquez white knight against high school nookie Bronze Supporter SoSH Member

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    So, Ken was demoted, supposedly. Instead of President and Chancellor, he's now just Chancellor. And it looks like prior to 2014, he was just President until he was promoted to President and Chancellor. WTF is the difference?
     
  29. Infield Infidel

    Infield Infidel teaching korea american SoSH Member

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    Who's on first?
     
  30. WayBackVazquez

    WayBackVazquez white knight against high school nookie Bronze Supporter SoSH Member

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    I think he fits better as Chancellor anyway. Photoshop away.

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  31. edoug

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    No problem, I believe sarcasm keeps intelligent people sane in an unsane world.
     
  32. canderson

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    Chancellor is a made-up position to put people far away (think Milton) who they hate.

    This all should've happened 9 months ago but Baylor wanted a run at a national title.

    Kudos to the regents for stepping up and ordering an investigation that doesn't seem to have been influenced much by the university.

    The NCAA should hammer them. But they won't.

    Good riddance, scum.
     
  33. mauidano

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  34. sachmoney

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  35. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Art Briles' daughter wants your prayers.

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  36. BigSoxFan

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    It has to be tough to accept the fact that your father is a massive dipshit.
     
  37. Average Reds

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    If she was being honest, she's just come out and ask "why should my father be the first coach held responsible for covering up rapes?"
     
  38. Soxfan in Fla

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    While there are many schools that will sweep rapes and other deplorable behavior under the rug, this situation seems to be even worse than most.
     
  39. RedOctober3829

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    Baylor247 has learned that Baylor Director of Athletics Ian McCaw will announce the hiring of Jim Grobe as an interim head coach of the football program for the 2016 season. A native of Huntington, West Virginia, Grobe began has head coaching career at Ohio University (1995-2000) before finishing his career at Wake Forest (2001-2013).

    With the hiring, Grobe is expected to place the majority of his emphasis on the defensive side of the ball, aiding current defensive coordinator Phil Bennett. Offensive coordinator Kendal Briles is expected to remain in full control of the offense with assistance from offensive line coach Randy Clements.

    http://baylor.247sports.com/Article...nce-Jim-Grobe-as-interim-head-coach--45560612
     
  40. RedOctober3829

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    And just like that Ian McCaw is gone.

    Baylor247 has learned that Baylor's Director of Athletics Ian McCaw will officially resign from his current position in the near future. McCaw has been at Baylor in the same position since the 2003-2004 athletic year and was responsible for the hiring of several Baylor coaches within the athletic department including new interim football head coach Jim Grobe.

    http://baylor.247sports.com/Article...or-of-Athletics-Ian-McCaw-to-resign--45563172
     
  41. Average Reds

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    Just to be clear, you do realize that my post was mocking the self-pity of Briles' daughter, right?
     
  42. IHateDaveKerpen

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    And now Starr is resigning from his - new - position as Chancellor.



    He'll remain on as a professor at Baylor's law school.
     
  43. Kremlin Watcher

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    I wonder how the young women that were raped feel about the words "Ken Starr" and "conscience" in the same sentence.
     
  44. Bosoxen

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  45. canderson

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    Baylor Insider on Twitter yesterday was trolling UT players too. Good times in Waco.
     
  46. edoug

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    Probably disgusted but not surprised.
     
  47. Average Reds

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    Ken Starr is a bigger idiot than I thought possible. And the local news media are apparently so disgusted with the situation at Baylor that they have decided its ok to eviscerate him.

    http://deadspin.com/ken-starr-faceplants-when-confronted-with-email-showing-1780263253

    For those who don't want to click through and see the video, here's the money shot. Starr is confronted with an email sent to him by one of the women who had been raped. He says that he doesn't remember, but admits that he may have seen it. At which point, his media advisor barges in, insists that they edit that answer out, pulls Starr into another room and comes back later to complete the interview.

    The question is asked again and Starr gives the answer he was instructed to give. Then turns to his advisor and asks "Is that ok?" The advisor tells him "Don't look at me, look at her." They re-do the question a third time and he gets it right, providing an answer that leaves the strong impression that the email never got to him without saying those exact words.

    Rather than edit it as the media advisor had insisted, the local news team showed every bit, making Starr look like a disingenuous buffoon.

    Good stuff.
     
    #47 Average Reds, Jun 3, 2016
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  49. Kremlin Watcher

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    According to some posters at Baylor Fans, more bad things are about to happen in Waco.

    Baylor had a basketball coach cover up a murder of one of his players. I wouldn't put anything past the baptists when it comes to covering up really, really bad stuff in their athletics programs.
     
  50. Joe D Reid

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    Man, that station just nuked him. That's fantastic--I haven't seen anyone actually keep the cameras rolling in that situation since Stewart left the Daily Show.
     

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