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Discussion in 'Breakfast with Gazza (with Sachmoneious Bullcrap)' started by mikeford, May 23, 2018.
Winning streak dies thanks to two penalties
Unbeaten streak rolls on
thanks to an uncalled hand ball on the second goal.
He arguably should have been awarded a penalty on that, the defender had a fist full of jersey.
North London Derby part 3 has been added to the docket thanks to a 2-1 win over Blackpool in the milk jug cup
That was a good tie with Liverpool. They looked very good against them, and I am definitely warming to the Xhaka-Torreira pairing in midfield. Lucas covers well for Xhaka's lack of top end footspeed, and with both of them capable of advancing the ball and making accurate long range passes, it really accelerates the attack and opens up the game for Arsenal. And Holding has looked good recently as well. He just needs a better experienced player next to him. I'd rather not see Mustafi point to an open space, wander away from it covering no one, and then watch someone jump into that open space and put a shot on net yet again.
really wish Kos hadnt died.
To be fair, it was only his Achilles which passed on, the rest of him seems quite lively. I don't know if it's possible to get a high level central defender in the January window, but that's what I'd like for Festivus. Everything else looks like it will sort itself out through team selection and guys returning from injury.
Reiss Nelson won Bundesliga rookie of the month
Really hope we do not sell him to Hoffenheim
Oof, that was sad to see Welbeck on a stretcher with what looks like another season ending injury. Have to feel bad for someone who seems to try hard and be a good guy, but have such crap luck. If anybody saw the picture of it, it looked like a Gordon Hayward foot on sideways type of thing. Not good.
He signed a new long term contract before starting the loan so I doubt that is in the cards.
Nelson and Iwobinho is a pretty nice homegrown set of wingers. Add a guy who mainly plays on the right like long rumored target Cristian Pavon and that's a great young group around which to build.
Well that was everything I wanted in a North London Derby.
And Torreira really was an incredible pickup. The guy is relentless and does everything you want a deep lying midfielder to do.
It’s crazy how much of a 2nd half team Arsenal have been this season. If games ended at half time, Arsenal would be 19th
I think they have been slow starters most of this season, but not today. The goals pretty much went against the flow of play, and were both based on questionable calls. They did look even better after the half though. I don't know what it is about Mikhitaryan, but he just doesn't seem to click in the premier league.
Fantastic derby win today. What I liked best is that we came with a good tactical plan and were executing it very well, had this big setback that was a bit flukey, and then Emery got on top of the match again with his halftime substitutions and the switch to 4-3-3 with about 20 minutes left. He had a good Plan A, a good Plan B, and a good Plan C. I can't remember the last time I saw something similar from Wenger.
Its crazy to think that the strength of this team is its striker pairing and its midfield pivot, especially its dynamo defensive midfielder, given that we spent seemingly forever needing to improve in precisely those positions.
Felt like the biggest Arsenal win in years. Great response too after getting back to back boning by fuckin Mike Dean.
I loved that the subs were the guys most heavily involved in the row with Dier after going down 2-1
What are Arsenal fans’ thoughts on Torreira? I was a huge fan of his last year at Samp, and sorta hoped Barcelona would grab him as an alternative to Busquets (different players, for sure, but can play the same position). To my eyes, he has looked fantastic but I was curious what Gunners fans thought of him.
Maybe I am biased because I’m a diminutive #6 myself, but I could see him becoming a fan favorite.
He's a brilliant player, perfectly suited for today's high paced and high pressing game. He's just really good at playing in space and in transitional situations. When out of possession, he covers angles well, has a knack for pressing high then recovering to shield the back four, and makes a ton of ball recoveries. When in possession, he helps keep us ticking, can pick a pass, and can dribble out of tight situations.
I noticed this too.
Also, I cannot for the life of me understand what Henrikh Mkhitaryan is doing in the starting line. I was so glad when I saw the halftime subs.
Perhaps it's time for an update to the thread title?
No chance. Superstition and all that.
Rob holding we hardly knew ye, some Manc rat clatters into him and now his season is over. ACL tear, rip in peace lad
Hopefully we can survive with Kos coming back. Kos, Mustafi (ugh) and Sokrates as our 3 main CB for the rest of the way seems extremely thin. Maybe Mavrapanos can make a leap.
I have not seen any updates on this but Mustafi went off hurt and him and Sokrates got 5 yellow cards - doesn't that mean they are suspended for the next game? I think Mavrapanos is hurt too.
Kos and Nacho at CB for the next game seems like a big ask.
Yup, Sokratis is suspended, as well as Mustafi who looks like he'd miss the game with injury regardless. Holding is most likely done for the year, and Mavrapanos has not sounded like he's been close to playing. With their place in the Europa league group wrapped up, I'm guessing Koscielny will play half a game as a warm up on Thursday and everyone else will be youngsters. Then he'll start with Monreal or Lichsteiner at the other CB against Southampton. Not ideal, but it's only one game. Then we'll likely be back to having 3 healthy centre backs on the team. Also, I've read that as part of his loan deal, Calum Chambers can't be recalled, but doesn't money make clauses like that disappear?
if we're honest, playing Elneny at CB seems like a more attractive option than Calum Chambers anyway
Well, having no CBs certainly came home to roost today.
Koscielny in fuckin no man's land and thats the end of your unbeaten streak.
This team is bad. Bad bad bad. That long unbeaten streak really papered over some massive holes.
I don’t worship at the expected goals alter like many do, but I did just read a piece from infogol that showed by xG Arsenal is actually worse than last season. Whatever that’s worth.
It makes sense, they only have 2 guys who really put the ball in the net with ANY regularity.
It's so dumb to say cuz we've spent like a billion dollars on strikers in the past 3 years but Arsenal really need a 3rd guy up front who can score. In my mind, I'd want a winger since I don't like Laca up front, PEA out wide.
But before any of that bullshit happens they need to entirely replace the backline, save Bellerin. None of the rest of those schlubs deserve paychecks.
Doesn’t this entirely ignore the injuries they’ve had in the back that were healthy during the win streak? Basically they’re throwing in bodies right now ...and it’s not like Liverpool hasn’t been destroying everyone.
But that speaks to a lack of depth, which to me indicates you're actually not good.
Liverpool should beat a fully healthy Arsenal away at Anfield. They should not score 5 unanswered no matter what.
When Holding went down, that was a big loss. He was basically the only central defender who was reliable and mostly error-free.
According to my scan of his game logs, Holding played 16 games in all competitions. Arsenal won 11 of them, drew 5, and lost none. When Holding played, Arsenal outscored opponents 38-14.
In the Premier League, Holding played 10 times. Arsenal won 6, drew 4, and lost none, (22 points from 30) with 24 goals scored to 11 conceded.
In the 10 Premier League games without Holding, Arsenal have won 5, drawn 1, and lost 4 (16 points from 30.) They've scored 18 goals in those games and conceded 19.
I don't know if there is a good source of advanced stats that would prove this, but I also thought Holding was their best defender before he went down. The extra makeshift-ness of the current d with Lichsteiner (who is cooked and playing out of position) and Kos thrown right back in full time after most of a year out, Kolasinac playing in a back four where his defense gets terribly exposed rather than as a wingback, Xhaka sometimes playing in defense, etc doesn't help, but this team really should have added a defensive player in his prime rather than the spackle they bought. Sokratis would be an okay third option able to add some bastardly moves to a back 3, but he's not solving much in this D right now.
But I think if the defensive issues were sorted out, the offense would more than take care of itself.
How many teams carry five or six extra defenders?
Two of the five goals were on pks by a player who wouldn’t normally see the field.. and that second pk? I’m not sure how many I’ve seen given where a player basically fell down on the scrum of a free kick.. you can say there was a shove but those are rarely given.
Point is the team played great when they had their starting d in there.. to simply ignore that and say the winning streak didn’t mean anything/this team is weak because of the last result.. well anyone watching knows that you’d have to be completely ignoring the main problem.
So the team has dropped 13 points from the last 24, Ramsey is heading to Juventus on a free after the season, Emery admitted that they won't be signing anyone in January (only hoping to take someone on loan) Ozil can't even make the bench for Premier League matches, and now Sven Mislintat is leaving. He just got here about a year ago, and he's been credited with bringing in Aubaumeyang, Torreira, Guendouzi, Sokratis, and Leno. Now he is bailing out, leaving without another job?
What the hell is going on with this club all of a sudden?
Huge match against Chelsea this weekend. If Arsenal loses, they're pretty much done in terms of the top 4.
Also, Petr Cech is retiring after the season. Not shocking, but add a backup keeper to the growing shopping list, I mean loan, list.