MakMan44 said:Ranaudo is almost certainly coming up soon.
nattysez said:Here's a recent scouting report that Professor Parks just tweeted.
Rod is a first nameNickEsasky said:Wait he only has one first name. What happened to the plan?
NickEsasky said:Wait he only has one first name. What happened to the plan?
Savin Hillbilly said:He actually sounds like a reasonably good return for Miller.
I found this hilariousDeJesus Built My Hotrod said:Horrible trade.
The front office should be shitcanned. Just awful. This trade proves they dont have a plan, except maybe that they are planning on selling the team. But you can bet they didnt plan on selling.
The Ben Cherrington sock puppet gets caught flatfooted again!
redsahx said:For old time's sake I hope they asked Duquette to throw in a Catching prospect to sweeten the deal.
rajendra82 said:
Eduardo Jose (Hernandez) Rodriguez
Two last names so that we can make keep the team balance intact.
He also has a FIP of 3.54 (lower than last year), a BABIP of .328 (.296 in AA last year) and his LOB% is down to 61% this year. In short, the Orioles AA fielding is doing him zero favors.StuckOnYouk said:Rodriguez having a tough year in AA but he's only 21 and he was something like 60th in the preseason top 100
foulkehampshire said:This gutless Redsox FO is disgraceful.
What a despicable bunch of trades; Ben Cherington should be ashamed.
/JulE6
Whoaaaaaa no it doesn't.findguapo said:A google image search for Eduardo Rodriguez does not provide the desired result.
Basically all of the pitchers on this year's Bowie Bay Sox have high hit rates and elevated BABIPs.Drek717 said:He also has a FIP of 3.54 (lower than last year), a BABIP of .328 (.296 in AA last year) and his LOB% is down to 61% this year. In short, the Orioles AA fielding is doing him zero favors.
That scouting report makes me think of Felix Doubront.nattysez said:Here's a recent scouting report that Professor Parks just tweeted.
rundugrun said:That scouting report makes me think of Felix Doubront.
Savin Hillbilly said:
We really don't have that big a stockpile of high-minors pitching any more, now that at least three of them are going to be in the big league rotation permanently.
I would agree. Escobar's first start out of the PCL has shown some immediate recovery for his down trending season, hopefully the Sea Dogs can do the same for Rodriguez.nvalvo said:Basically all of the pitchers on this year's Bowie Bay Sox have high hit rates and elevated BABIPs.
I suspect the defense.
nvalvo said:
DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:Horrible trade.
The front office should be shitcanned. Just awful. This trade proves they dont have a plan, except maybe that they are planning on selling the team. But you can bet they didnt plan on selling.
The Ben Cherrington sock puppet gets caught flatfooted again!
Papelbon's Poutine said:
Huh? Miller will probably come close to doubling that. If he wanted 4/16 they would have kept him and resigned him. That would be a freakin steal.
Plympton91 said:Yup, my opinion of this trade depends on how reasonable a deal Miller signs in the offseason, and whether it is with the Red Sox. If he gets a blow away offer from someone else, then glad the Red Sox got a lottery ticket. If he signs a market rate contract in the range of the Downs/Benoit/Affelt 4-years/$20 million deals plus inflation, then I'd rather have Miller.
Plympton91 said:
If he signs a market rate contract in the range of the Downs/Benoit/Affelt 4-years/$20 million deals plus inflation, then I'd rather have Miller.
DrewDawg said:
You could get both you know.
foulkehampshire said:With all this stockpiling of high-minors pitching you have to think something big is gonna happen between now and next April.
foulkehampshire said:
Anthony Ranaudo
Brian Johnson
Matt Barnes
Edwin Escobar
Henry Owens
And you forgot Barnes.Dick Pole Upside said:
I'm sure there's a similar post in one of the "when the dust has cleared" discussions, but:
- DLR
- Workman
- Webster
- Ranaudo
- Wright
- Owens
- Escobar
- Johnson
- EdRod
Cripes on a cracker... that's an entire STAFF.
If they had known then what they know now, probably a lot more than they offered. Not getting someone to replace Joba's late inning, which was a clear problem, was a huge blunder.soxhop411 said:I wonder who DET would have given up
soxhop411 said:Mlbtr says that DET met our demands for Miller. But we asked for one final offer from BAL which is why we traded him there. I wonder who DET would have given up
Last year's FA crop of RPs included Howell (2/11), Lopez (3/13), Logan (3/16.5), Mujica (2/9.5), Rodney (2/14), Smith (3/16). I would imagine that the bidding for Miller starts at around Joe Smith's deal and then escalates quickly...Smith had a longer track record and better injury history going into FA but Miller is left-handed with better stuff and that ridiculously high K rate....and as you say there are a lot of teams - including high payroll teams - with a clear need.ArgentinaSOXfan said:Dodgers needing bullpen help big time. More and more suitors with money to throw around. He will get paid baaad.
We paid top FA money at the time for Koji to set-up 2/$9.25m without any thoughts of him closing so it isn't outside of what he have done recently. 4 years is a little nuts though.Minneapolis Millers said:I agree that that's a ton to pay for Miller. Only good reason to do it is if they intend to make him the closer eventually and would rather pay full market value for a top "set-up guy" than shell out more $ on a full market value deal for a "proven closer." Otherwise, I thought smart teams avoided paying top FA $ for set-up guys and spent time and less coin finding the next Andrew Miller instead.
Ed Hillel said:If they had known then what they know now, probably a lot more than they offered. Not getting someone to replace Joba's late inning, which was a clear problem, was a huge blunder.
wade boggs chicken dinner said:
IIRC, Duquette intimated that he wasn't going to pay the price for Miller but then decided he didn't want to face him in the playoffs so he ponied up. Smart call on his part.
$6m x 4 years for a guy in whom there has already been a frenzy of interest sounds fanciful. I bet he gets closer to $10m/per. Maybe 3 years, $30m. I'm not saying that should happen, but there are just too many teams interested in the guy for his price to resemble what he's worth.ALiveH said:if he ends up at $21/3 or $24/4, that's probably a fair price to pay given his age and the success he's had for the past few years.
Hee Sox Choi said:Huge, FREE and good article about Andrew Miller on Baseball Prospectus today:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=24833
Fun quote: “Bobby Valentine left few positives behind from his year at the helm of the Sox, but the changes to Miller's mechanics were unarguably productive."
Didn't the Dodgers pay Brian Wilson 10 mil to be a set-up man? I'm guessing Andrew Miller gets 9-10 mil per season after this post-season has amplified the importance of a bullpen ace. I may have to start rooting for Buck as he's been pretty smart deploying Miller in the playoffs (brought him in in the 5th inning of one game!).