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Discussion in '2018 Red Sox Game Threads' started by DrewDawg, Oct 18, 2018.
“Would be nice”. It would put him in the game thread starter HoF!
Pretty sure this is the case for everyone else.
Eric Gagne and dominate don't belong in the same sentence. Overrated and shitty work much better.
You know I already have a Super Bowl win under my belt...
Maybe he started in around the 5th inning like I did.
SixPoint. (And a little Stolichnaya).
Ump was in the theatrics zone all night. He made a delayed called third strike in the mid-innings on a Price fastball on the corner that looked like he was channeling Mola Ram ripping the batter’s heart out.
I see that the game lasted 3:32, but I don't know the exact start time. Was the game over by midnight or not? Probably not, so no two wins on the same day.
By the way, next time Verlander opens his trap about his injured team and his second baseman being forced to play "on one leg," would someone PLEASE remind him that our second baseman was out all year?
Not sure the exact time. But when I saw them singing happy birthday in the lockerroom, it was about 11:55. So probably ended 15-20 minutes before that?
Started at 8:11, I believe.
So yeah, it ended before midnight.
Thanks, guys. I got mixed up about the start-time, since the night before was after 8:30.
So: two wins on my birthday in '04, two wins in '18 (at least that's how I remember it).
I think he’s saying that in Spanish. Far too expressive for English.
I thought that was going to be the 1916 World Series Red Sox over the Brooklyn Robins in 5 games.
He was tipping that he would be throwing pitches a foot out of the strike zone?
If you know the pitch is a curve ball you can wait on the break, knowing there’s no 95 mph fastball coming. And if you know it’s a fastball you can lay off easier. He relies on swings on pitches outside the zone.
As a starter?
This is exactly right.
A significant difference between Kimbrel in the first half of the year and the second half of the year is that batters were much more aggressive against him. He got more swings and misses out of the zone. I posted several times in game threads that I thought the way to beat Kimbrel was to simply not swing and then either take the walk or get into a hitter's count. It even felt like Kimbrel was, paradoxically, more effective with a small lead than a big one because batters were more aggressive when they could tie with one swing instead of needing to get on base.
My assumption since the all star break was the batters had simply figured this all out and had made a decision that they weren't going to swing and not guess, because most times they'd get a favorable count. Tipping is actually a good explanation too.
If you watch some Kimbrel performances from April and May you'll see some of the very same pitches just being swings and misses. That was what made him so dominant. He got outs without ever having to put a ball in a place where it could be hit well.
I'm not sure the "starter" qualification is all that relevant to how much pressure he felt relative to the two examples I gave. Closing out the 2008 Red Sox was no mean feat; we'd already pulled several lazarus acts in that very series. And he threw, I think, 3 innings to close out that WS game, which was the only one TB won. Here he was up 3-1 in the series with the best lineup in baseball behind him.
I'm glad he shook off some monkeys from his back, but I really had no concerns about "the pressure" of the situation. He's 32, he's been in the league a decade, he's seen some shit.
You're the Bo Jackson of gamethread starters.
I understand your rush to be a contrarian to everything I write, but re-read what I wrote. It's relevant to "this was the biggest start of his life". The relief examples? Awesome. But I don't know what they have to do with his starts, which is the whole point. I don't recall anyone ever saying that Price can't win in relief in game 7 or game 2.
Yeah what was up with that?
I assumed he was telling Kimbrel to focus on the final hitter and not the runner on first.
So does Joe Flacco. We’ll talk when you add this year’s World Series.
He took out Geurin after the alds when he popped his cork.
Houston before being caught cheating after Game 1: 4-0, 7.0 runs per game.
After Game 1: 0-4, 3.5 runs per game.
Can’t be a coincidence. They were clearly stealing signs.
runs per game in this tiny sample size is nothing.
"HE'S CUT!!! THE RUSSIAN IS CUT . . . . ."
Why did blue sport coat guy switch seats with the guy sitting behind Eisenhower?
I have a buddy who's damn near a doppelganger for Brasier, right down to the body type. Occasionally rocks a similar beard too. So yeah, I definitely know a Brasier.
I'd say Machado is a more likely candidate than Puig. Though he's more likely to do it during a game, rather than before it.
It clearly could be a coincidence but I choose to believe that it isn't.
The other thing I've been thinking about w/r/t Kimbrel is that JD Martinez quote about Chapman, how the league has focused so much on velocity out of the pen that his 101 MPH doesn't seem so violent and unique anymore. Hitters get a lot of looks at Kimbrel's level of velocity and like you mention, hitters have seemed more aggressive on his fastball.
Any minute now, that momentum loss from the end of September is going to bite them in the ass.
Yeah, it's a good point. I think in prior years maybe Kimbrel was getting guys out with his fastball by just blowing them away. And we all remember those ohhs and ahhs by Eck early in the year when guys would flail at his high fastball and it would be thought to be rising. But I think the truth is closer to the idea that the fastball is not his real out pitch but instead is the pitch that allows him to set up his out pitches. At least some of the time I guess.
He was telling Moreland to hold the runner to keep the force in play.
It's like he already forgot about the 4 straight over the Houston Bregmans.
We’re onto LA/Milwaukee
It sucked watching all of the shots of the dipshit Astros fans celebrating at Fenway as Game 1 unfolded. I’m happy that all they have left from that experience are credit card charges.
Yankees may have the most annoying home fans, but Astros road fans may be worse than Yankees road fans.
This team has performed well, but they can't be considered elite when they've only won two games against a team with a better record all year.
May they can play their Shadow Sox-selves, like at the end of The Adventures of Link?
And then we can all complain about how the fact that they learned to be so good now works against them.
FOX feels so bad about The Yankees ouster from the playoffs that they had to run a 2003 ALCS highlights show. this afternoon.
Mlbn is airing this game now, and I just noticed the train after the Gonzalez HR off Barnes. They run that thing out every time their guys hit homers, but not when the opposition does? This seems like something from the minor leagues. Or the Bush Leagues.
Does Bernie Brewer slide down when the opposition hits a HR?
Does the Mets apple go up when the opposition hits a HR? Does the Marlin's Lisa Frank statue go wild? No. This is standard.
Gotcha. Do the Red Sox do anything similarly tacky?
Just the Wave
Some people say Sweet Caroline is tacky.
Fenway has the least tacky experience of any park I've been to. The amount of between-innings inanity is really low, compared to the rest.