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Discussion in '2018 Red Sox Game Threads' started by DrewDawg, Oct 14, 2018.
He hasn’t hit for the cycle, though, so... meh.
Holt and Devers need to be the starters at 2nd and 3rd for this series.
Make it happen, Tito!
the day that I'm comfortable watching The Red Sox play baseball is the day I'll stop watching The Red Sox play baseball
I'm concerned Cora will go right back to Nunez with Keuchel playing.
I feel the same way as after game 2 of last series - we need all the offensive upside we can get and the defensive downside of Nunez -> Devers and Kinsler -> Holt is not as large as it appears
I Love this DIRTY WATER TV!
And Nunez shouldn't see the field or the plate again except for a blowout or emergency
Keuchel didn't have split this season, but who knows what his saber machine will spit out. And I see no defensive downside of Devers vs Nunez at this point, and very little Holt to Kinsler
I should never post in this type of reactionary way but as it's a game thread why not - any thoughts to starting Eovaldi Game 3, Rodriguez Game 4 and just committing to use Porcello as the late inning relief ace? I guess that also depends on Sale's situation....
Small quibble: I think they're more just "good" offensively than insanely good. Against RHP, who they'll see the next two games, they put up a pretty modest .733 OPS this season (.754 overall, compared to our .792). But totally agreed about Holt and Devers v. Nunez and Kinsler.
You're the dark knight we need but don't deserve
I wish I had posted that in a couple of threads.
Devers will make some stupid swings, but the moment certainly doesn't seem to big for him. And he's really good.
I think price was a bit better than merely competent. Ratsos scored 2 on X’s blunder and the pitch Price threw to Gonzalez that he hit for a HR was actually a very good pitch, a 92mph fastball, up and in.
Quite the day in Boston sports.
Shaw sucks too
Tell that to the "I told you so" chest-thumpers upthread who were positively exultant when he gave up the HR.
I think he was too actually. I really like what I saw from him.
And first team to win 108 games; beat a 100 win team in 4 in the ALDS; and now we're done at 1-1.
This is the most non sequitur remark ever posted on Sosh and that is saying something,
Alex Bregman so far in the ALCS: .000/.778/.000
Aren't you usually in bed by now? (Too much adrenalin?)
I just don't get all the Bregman ball washing on TBS, like he is the second coming of Jeter. If we just stop walking him, he would be beyond mediocre.
In addition to heroics by JBJ, Devers, Mookie, Barnes, Brasier and Porcello, it was nice to see Bogaerts start the rally in the third after his awful play in the second, when all of Red Sox fandom — me included — was ready to run him out of town on a rail.
And I won’t revolt in Kinsler starts against Keuchel, it no way should he ever start against a hard-throwing righty again.
He'd cocky as all hell, but he's a stud. He put up a 6.9 WAR as a 24-year-old this year, and already has six postseason homers.
And the walks have come because he's had some really good takes on close pitches.
I think this team is incredibly comfortable on the road. They can get to Keuchel and Morton. Houston missed their chance to bury us tonight.
JD took Keuchel deep this year. He's going to be JD's slump buster.
I would like for us to challenge him more, like they are doing to JDM, than trying to be so fine with him. A stud or not, I don't think we should back off.
Brady...Mookie...Brady...Mookieeee.......this can't be legal
I hope that goofy ass bandstand box Houston has looks mighty good to Betts and JD.
Where do you rank that JBJ double? I’ve got it right up there with the Papi grand slam, the Gomes homer, the Victorino hit, Drew’s grand slam. Game changer.
Hopefully, it leads to a similar result.
Definitely biggest hit of 2018.
Price kept us in game with 4 innings, we got to Cole a little and then their pen, Moreland got a PH single, and we won 7-5. I'm giving myself a winning grade on this one.
Still amazed that a camp arm like Brasier is getting critical October outs. Losing Smith for the year, Thornburg not producing, and with Kelly’s bottoming out in the second half, Brasier has really saved us. Really remarkable.
Baseball is weird and random, the Dodgers best hitter was a minor league journeyman when this season started and the Brewers best starter right now had an era of almost 6 over the last 2 seasons. Every team could have had any of them for nothing 6 months ago.
JBJ with bases loaded this year. 19 PAs. One TB. One single. One walk. One SF. 7 Ks. .059/.105/.059.
Funny fucking game alright.
I was in bed. I have a clunky Nexus tablet in the bedside table drawer. Glad I missed Kimbrel again.
I watched mlbn for a while. There was Cora speaking Spanish, of which I could get only every other word, alas. One of the words was "match up" (in English). I wish I could know what he was saying, since his belief in match-ups seems to conflict with his playing Kinsler against Cole.
EDIT: I just heard the Cora interview again, and for some reason could understand a good deal of the Spanish. It was all about Devers, who he said is working hard and is much improved defensively. I believe he said that he is playing him depending on the match-ups.
It was also so awesome to see our fans at Fenway appreciate his pitching last night with a standing ovation rather than what Mazz will probably focus on this afternoon, "4 Runs in 4 2/3 innings!!! And it would have been more if not for Barnes saving his arse!!!"
You dont need Mazz for that. Read this thread from the start.
Price bested Cole for the most part, which isn't saying much given that neither was very good, but some posters here not only see it the other way but called out others for being "Price apologists" whatever that means for acknowledging it. You would certainly fall into that group based on your post.
In the end, I believe most Sox fans would like Price to be more effective but if he can merely keep the team in a game, he has done ok.
Perfection may be the ideal but its not a realistic baseball expectation, especially against Houston.
Hot damn, this is a great post!
Glad I rarely participate in game threads anymore then. Price was facing one of the best lineups in baseball and was a blooper over Pearce's head away from getting us into the 6th inning giving up 2 runs. No, he wasn't Verlander of the previous night but he did his job pitching from my seat.....one-game ERA be damned.
The game from last night is on MLBN. Astros have already scored their 4, so if you get there quick, you’ll see Jackie’s wall-rolling double.
I wish JBJ would try to go opposite field on mostly every at bat. When he does the ball carries for him so well..and sure beats the endless rollovers to 2B.
I never understood the "kept them in the game" argument. The pitcher's job is to give up the least amount of runs possible. If he stinks and gives up 5 runs in 3 innings but the offense puts up 5 runs as well, did he do his job because he "kept them in the game"? I don't think so.
I know I'm sitting on my recliner begging him to, every damned AB. I guess he has good reasons (?) for not trying it more. I posted in an earlier thread that Remy had recommended it for struggling hitters, particularly for JBJ, I think, but of course I don't have any proof of that. Just a memory.
It's really not as easy at it seems. The pitcher's job is to deceive the batter and if he's competent at it, especially ahead in the count, the idea that you can essentially just do whatever you want with the ball is not really true. Sometimes you can barely make any contact at all. And if you wait the split second you need to try to go oppo and you get a ball inside, you're going to look foolish. Or, worse, you miss a ball right in your happy zone that you could have hit 450 feet to right field. If you know you're getting a fastball on the outer half, where you can push it and the speed of the ball will provide the power, yeah, you'd do it every time. But you don't know what you're getting. Beni has a beautiful slicing swing to left. It works well, but we've all seen him try to put that swing on balls that he can't hit that way and he ends up looking bad.
Last night, Jackie got the exact same pitch twice in a row and the first time he looked foolish on it. He guessed right that it would come again and I think he knew he would have trouble catching up with it so he did what he did. If it had been something else, he would have been out.
Thanks. Just raced to the telly, b/c I hadn't seen the ninth. What struck me is the lack of joy on the faces of our players just after the win. The fans were ecstatic, but Markus Lynn, JBJ, Leon, etc. looked downright glum. I think they know what Kimbrel almost did, again, and were not totally happy.
That's one way to look at it. The other way is that they are locked in, know that one game isn't going to win the series, and are aiming for something much greater so they aren't going to celebrate their first win of the series no matter how important it is. They aren't just "happy to be here."
He did better than the other guy. If enough guys on Team A do better than the guys on Team B, then Team A usually wins.
I will admit that its subjective but in your example, context matters. If you are talking about a game against the Tigers or Orioles in late August, I would agree that the pitcher in your example didn't really keep their team "in the game".
However, against Houston, who by just about any measure is one of the best offenses in baseball, I would argue that the pitcher in your example did keep their team in the game. To be clear though, while I love shut down outings as much as any fan, I don't expect them. This is especially true against a team like the Astros who feature three of the top ten players in P/PA in the 2018 postseason and who are far and away the best hitting team in the playoffs thus far.
Altuve doesn’t look like his normal, not pesky but downright dangerous self so far. For that I am thankful.